What is the scoop on resistances?
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Asterri
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Well, to quote wowwiki: "Damage reduction percentage = 75 % * effective resistance rating / ( caster level * 5 )"
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The result of this second formula is capped at 75%*. Hence, the effective resistance value is capped at caster level * 5. For example, against a level 83 boss, 83 * 5 = 415 resistance has the maximum effect.
So, to simplify the above, 29*5 = 145. 145 resist to achieve 75%* resist chance against a level 29 opponent without spell pen.
So if you toss on 25 nature resist, you would achieve about a 12.8%* chance to resist nature spells on top of any other class/racial bonuses.
15 nature resist to cloak would give you a 7.75%* chance to resist a nature spell.
10 nature resist would result in a 5.1%* chance to resist a nature spell.
Hope this helps!
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The above information is valid, but it goes into more detail than just the above... it is more complicated than just a simple answer. For more details on this, I would recommend going to wowwiki, as their explanation is much better than mine.
*The % is not the chance to resist a nature spell, but the % average mitigation against that school of magic & % chance that school of magic will miss against you (binary spells)...
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The result of this second formula is capped at 75%*. Hence, the effective resistance value is capped at caster level * 5. For example, against a level 83 boss, 83 * 5 = 415 resistance has the maximum effect.
So, to simplify the above, 29*5 = 145. 145 resist to achieve 75%* resist chance against a level 29 opponent without spell pen.
So if you toss on 25 nature resist, you would achieve about a 12.8%* chance to resist nature spells on top of any other class/racial bonuses.
15 nature resist to cloak would give you a 7.75%* chance to resist a nature spell.
10 nature resist would result in a 5.1%* chance to resist a nature spell.
Hope this helps!
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The above information is valid, but it goes into more detail than just the above... it is more complicated than just a simple answer. For more details on this, I would recommend going to wowwiki, as their explanation is much better than mine.
*The % is not the chance to resist a nature spell, but the % average mitigation against that school of magic & % chance that school of magic will miss against you (binary spells)...
Zyrkonos
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I use +5 all resist on cloak, and it works wonders. You guys are not thinking about the sheer amount of locks and priests in the bracket. I'd say I resist about 15% of the damage of every DoT spell they cast, and that is some BIG mitigation, not to mention the occasional direct spell full resist. Really, going from 0 resistance to 5 changes a lot for the game's math, I don't know exactly but feel like anything >0 means a disproportionated improvement for the resistance mechanics.
When I have CoA, Corr, SWP and DP on me It's hard for me to see because my combat text is full of long messages like "-56 (16 resisted)" for example.
When I have CoA, Corr, SWP and DP on me It's hard for me to see because my combat text is full of long messages like "-56 (16 resisted)" for example.
darzk
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The only resist set I use against any class on any of my toons in any bracket is nature resist rings+cloak chants on my priest and drood, and a shadow resist set on my pally.
I wouldn't personally use a nature resist set against a rogue. Sure, maybe it will take them longer to get crippling on you, but once they do, you're stuck with it and the NR does nothing useful at all.
I wouldn't personally use a nature resist set against a rogue. Sure, maybe it will take them longer to get crippling on you, but once they do, you're stuck with it and the NR does nothing useful at all.
Shadow5555
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This is the type of info I was really hoping for.
I still need to test this with my play style and see if it is worth it.
It is moving away for the norm that sometimes gives a player and edge.
Most experiments fail to produce the super twink but each helps in becoming a better player.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I still need to test this with my play style and see if it is worth it.
It is moving away for the norm that sometimes gives a player and edge.
Most experiments fail to produce the super twink but each helps in becoming a better player.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Shadow5555 said:
Jungle Remedy and Strong Anti-Venom are the useful anti-venoms in 20-29. If you're using small venom sacs to make "Anti-Venom" bandages you'll probably find that when you use them it fails to take the poison off.
As a tactic thing, I'd recommend getting out of melee before using the anti-venom if you can as it does often reapply very quickly. In my case as a mage this usually means blinking away, or Frost Nova, then apply the anti-venom, then keep running. Another alternative might be to use an Iron Grenade to stun them, then anti-venom, then run out of melee range.
It's a good idea to have both Jungle Remedy and Strong Anti-Venom as they are on different cooldowns so you can use one right after the other.
Jungle Remedy
Jungle Remedy - Thottbot: World of Warcraft
Strong Anti-Venom
strong anti-venom - Thottbot: World of Warcraft
Iron Grenade
Iron Grenade - Thottbot: World of Warcraft
Meed
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meed.dalvengyr said:
Potion of curing is also on a diff cd.
Shadow5555
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Potion of curing???
I never heard of that. I also never see them in the AH. Where can you get them?
I never heard of that. I also never see them in the AH. Where can you get them?
Shadow5555
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meed.dalvengyr said:
Strong Anti Venom??? I am such a noob at this. I have first aid 300 but no Strong Anti Venom. Where do I learn this? Can I buy it?
I ask all these questions cause I can't access most wow sites at work due to internet restrictions by security. When I get home I only have a short time to play and naturally I would rather play than spend all my time reading.
Thanks for the ton of information everyone.
Shadow5555
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I have also heard that crippling poison can stack. That is you can have more than 1 on you. If nature resist can help prevent this I think I can survive.
It is not just the rogues out there either. There are tons of hunters too.
I am not sure how often I will use a nature resist set but i am sure there will be times when it will be just pure gold.
I am also sure my play skills will improve much faster on the battle field than in the graveyard. lol
It is not just the rogues out there either. There are tons of hunters too.
I am not sure how often I will use a nature resist set but i am sure there will be times when it will be just pure gold.
I am also sure my play skills will improve much faster on the battle field than in the graveyard. lol
According to wowhead the potion of curing is a world drop for fairly low levels. I say world drop as it seems more than 200+ things are capable of dropping it so your best chance is probably to search the Auction House for it every day and hope it pops up, or maybe farm in the Stonetalon Mountains zone if you have a lot of time?
[item]Recipe: Potion of Curing[/item]
For my money I'd rather save that potion cooldown for a sprint, or a free action, or a health, mana, etc. but to each their own!
Strong Anti-Venom is a book drop, at which point you can learn it and make your own Strong Anti-Venom bandages. I've always been able to find this on the Auction House after a few weeks or months of patiently searching but you could farm this as well. It seems to have roughly the same drop rate as the potion of curing. Once you have this you'll need large venom sacs, which are also often found on the AH for varying prices. On Dalvengyr you might end up spending as much as 30 silver per bandage (ie, 1 gold for a large venom sac, which makes 3 bandages)
[item]Manual: Strong Anti-Venom[/item]
I've definitely been hit by multiple poisons at once, but I'm not sure that they stack, but then I'm usually a lot more focused on blinking away and using an anti-poison ability than rating my speed relative to normal and with just 1 poison on me, etc. According to this thread slow effects in general do not stack:
World of Warcraft (en) Forums -> Does slow effects stack?
The best answer to this is going to have to finding a couple of rogue friends, or a single rogue friend with two weapons and 2 applications of crippling to find out. Try it out and let us know!
Meed
[item]Recipe: Potion of Curing[/item]
For my money I'd rather save that potion cooldown for a sprint, or a free action, or a health, mana, etc. but to each their own!
Strong Anti-Venom is a book drop, at which point you can learn it and make your own Strong Anti-Venom bandages. I've always been able to find this on the Auction House after a few weeks or months of patiently searching but you could farm this as well. It seems to have roughly the same drop rate as the potion of curing. Once you have this you'll need large venom sacs, which are also often found on the AH for varying prices. On Dalvengyr you might end up spending as much as 30 silver per bandage (ie, 1 gold for a large venom sac, which makes 3 bandages)
[item]Manual: Strong Anti-Venom[/item]
I've definitely been hit by multiple poisons at once, but I'm not sure that they stack, but then I'm usually a lot more focused on blinking away and using an anti-poison ability than rating my speed relative to normal and with just 1 poison on me, etc.
According to this thread slow effects in general do not stack:World of Warcraft (en) Forums -> Does slow effects stack?
The best answer to this is going to have to finding a couple of rogue friends, or a single rogue friend with two weapons and 2 applications of crippling to find out. Try it out and let us know!
Meed