What is the Hit cap for rogues?
- Thread starter Richu
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shakyamuni
OG
Richu said:
you can still miss with 5% if opponents have talents that make them less likely to be hit, or the random bit of defense gear. Also night elves get an inherent additional 2% chance to be missed.
Xailter
OG
Absolute maximum (without wearing [item]Mantle of Doan[/item] - hate how it looks!) is to spec 5/5 Precision and get this gear:
BoA Shoulders: 7 hit rating
Glove Enchant: 15 hit rating
Surefooted: 10 hit rating
[item]Lavishly Jeweled Ring[/item]: 2 hit rating
[item]Simple Pearl Ring[/item]: 4 hit rating
[item]Baelog's Shortbow[/item]: 7 hit rating
BoA Daggar: 3 hit rating
Total: 48 hit rating (8% hit).
Max Horde Side: 8% + 5% = 13% hit.
Max Alliance Side: 6.83% + 5% + 1% (Draenei Team Mate!) = 12.83% hit.
So it is impossible get white capped (24% required).
-X
BoA Shoulders: 7 hit rating
Glove Enchant: 15 hit rating
Surefooted: 10 hit rating
[item]Lavishly Jeweled Ring[/item]: 2 hit rating
[item]Simple Pearl Ring[/item]: 4 hit rating
[item]Baelog's Shortbow[/item]: 7 hit rating
BoA Daggar: 3 hit rating
Total: 48 hit rating (8% hit).
Max Horde Side: 8% + 5% = 13% hit.
Max Alliance Side: 6.83% + 5% + 1% (Draenei Team Mate!) = 12.83% hit.
So it is impossible get white capped (24% required).
-X
Naturaltalnt
OG
Correct, but to add to the information already posted...you will always have a 1% chance to miss no matter what, along with all the other things added...talents, racials, def.
shakyamuni
OG
Bansil said:
there's also some +hit caster robes next patch, I think level 34. Neat.
Xailter
OG
Naturaltalnt said:
Incorrect - you can hit cap MELEE special attacks with only 5% hit (apart from some talents / defence rating or if you're fighting Night Elves). SPELLS always have a 1% chance to be missed and thus it is useless to stack hit higher than 4% in most cases for casters.
Naturaltalnt
OG
Xailter, could you direct me to this information?
I have always been told everyone no matter the class have a 1% chance to miss
I have always been told everyone no matter the class have a 1% chance to miss
Xailter
OG
Naturaltalnt said:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Hit_rating
"For example, once you reach or surpass the hit cap, you will never miss an attack against a raid boss unless you are under the effect of some debuff that reduces your hit chance."
http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_hit
"With patch 3.0.2, spell hit is capped at 100%; with enough spell hit, it is possible to reach a state where it is impossible for your spells to miss."
It seems that my information is slight out of date in regards to the spell hit rating - you can now cap it at 5% (19 hit rating) for spells. The rest holds true though
-X
Note: Undead rogue with 2/2 heightened senses has an 11% chance to resist shadow spells so you'd need ~42 hit rating as a lock to never have a fear resist against them
Nerf! (Or ~30 hit rating if you have 3/3 supression).
Falkor
Twink Info Legend
Naturaltalnt said:
no, melee have always been able to cap special attacks (5% against same lvl players/mobs)
casters used to always have an inherent 1% chance to miss, but they removed that with WotLK
as previously stated, its not wise to stack hit over 5% since that will cap specials, and you will never get the 24% to get hit capped for white attacks while duel wielding. even though some classes have talents to reduce chance to be hit, along with defense, and racials; its still not a good idea to get over 5%
also remember that your specials can still be dodged or parried once your hit capped, so if you want you can get expertise to reduce that too.
Naturaltalnt
OG
Interesting, hit has changed since I looked it up many moons ago.
LULIMALION
OG
also there is a 29 necklace coming out in 3.1 that adds 11 hit rating or something