What do you consider GY Farming?

[Mrcer]

So I was just curious to what you guys think GY Farming is? IE: Where is the line between GY Farming and Midfield Farming



For example:



(Alliance perspective)

If Horde are behind the invisible black line(imo) then they are not GY Farming. Anything past that would be(imo) GY Farming.



I was curious if others agreed with me on this or not.



Or just what they considered "the line" between GY Farming and Midfield Farming.





EDIT: Thumbs up for using paint?

 

[Aradiel]

GY farming begins and ends when the sole purpose is to farm kills that have nothing to do with the objective of the game. Not to be confused with chokepoint control, which is holding off the opposition while your team captures the flag.

 

[Cryptekz]

^ Pretty much this

 

[Mrcer]

By that definition, that would include Midfield farming; however i am specificly talking about this:



When is it considered GY farming instead of Midfield farming, where do YOU see the line between the two?

 

[Umpteenth]

when some bad on your team has the flag and hes camping and wont cap it, then yes. i agree

 

[Aradiel]

GY farming is only possible with hunters. Try doing it with any other class and it simply won't work. Mid farming tends to yield more kills because people eventually stop ressing. Mid farming is the middle of the field, often right near your own GY so the opposition has farther to travel when they die. Far more efficient for farming. There is no real distinction between mid farming and GY farming. Farming is farming.

 

[Mrcer]

(Misquote)



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[Mrcer]

GY farming is only possible with hunters. Try doing it with any other class and it simply won't work. Mid farming tends to yield more kills because people eventually stop ressing. Mid farming is the middle of the field, often right near your own GY so the opposition has farther to travel when they die. Far more efficient for farming. There is no real distinction between mid farming and GY farming. Farming is farming.

K so your clearly missing the point and not even answering my question.





I'll give you a simple yes or no question.



Look at this picture:

If horde players were behind this imaginary black line, would you or anyone else consider that gy farming/camping? Yes or no.

 

[Kearbear]

Yep, because they're still probably catching everyone to leave the spawn, whereas if they were closer mounted spawners would probably have an easier time getting past.



I do agree with everyone else tho, it's only really malicious gy camping if they're not going for caps either by not picking or not capping.

 

[solvogero]

planting little bones and watching things grow.

 

[Aradiel]

I simply chose to answer the question without saying yes or no and adding just a little more information to it. Farming is farming. Where you do it makes no difference. If the choke point is being controlled, with no possible means of escape, and there is no objective play, that is farming. You can't simply stand back a little and claim not to be farming. Likewise, if you're controlling the choke point while your team caps it is not farming.



The horde GY has an actual line, a small path. If you stand behind that, suddenly you're not farming? No. The difference between farming and controlling the chokepoint is whether or not it's being done to farm kills or to protect the FC.

 

[Mrcer]

Yep, because they're still probably catching everyone to leave the spawn, whereas if they were closer mounted spawners would probably have an easier time getting past.



I do agree with everyone else tho, it's only really malicious gy camping if they're not going for caps either by not picking or not capping.

I have a question for you specificly kearbear.



In a Hypothetical situation, lets say you were horde, there was you(the fc), 1 support class(IE: Frost mage), and a healer. You three are focusing on getting the flag and capping it. While the other 7 are doing 1 of 2 things. A: Staying right where they are in the picture(behind the black line) or B: Heading towards the FC to kill him(IE: If there is a FC, then they are already on their way to killing the EFC. But if there is no FC, then they are behind the black line).



Would you consider that Hypothetical situation to be considered GY Farming or playing objectively?

 

[C O T U S]

GY farming is only possible with hunters. Try doing it with any other class and it simply won't work. Mid farming tends to yield more kills because people eventually stop ressing. Mid farming is the middle of the field, often right near your own GY so the opposition has farther to travel when they die. Far more efficient for farming. There is no real distinction between mid farming and GY farming. Farming is farming.

there is an enormous distinction between mid farming and gy farming



and i have farmed the GY on every F2P character i have, including the all but 1 that are not hunters



man you have some truly terrible evaluation skills

 

[Aradiel]

Just the fact that you have the flag and are making a genuine attempt to capture it means that you're not farming. Now, taking the flag and holding it, near the GY, in mid, in your own base, and making no attempt to capture it, is the difference here. Anything else anyone is doing to keep the enemy off you, including controlling the chokepoint, is a perfectly valid strategy, and not farming. The moment you stop trying to capture the flag and just hold it and dance around etc. That is when the line between farming and playing objectively begins and ends.

 

[Aradiel]

The only distinction between mid farming and GY farming is where you're doing it. The result is the same.

 

[Kearbear]

Would you consider that Hypothetical situation to be considered GY Farming or playing objectively?

I don't really care what my team does as long as the flag gets returned (those who have played with me know, I will rage like none other if I catch my team under a gy ignoring the efc). I would consider a team that locks down a spawn while keeping the flag at home an objective team.



However if I were to decide not to cap the flag and screw around while there was no efc and our team controlled the gy, it would become the kind of rather mean spirited gy farming I assume you're referring to.

 

[C O T U S]

The only distinction between mid farming and GY farming is where you're doing it. The result is the same.

no, it's not. when you're farming the GY, they're stuck in the GY and cannot move anywhere else. they die as soon as they rez and cannot even fight back, much less pursue objectives



when you're farming mid, the other team is free to do as they please. if they don't want to come fight you mid, they don't have to. if they want to go get your flag, they can



i don't know what alternate universe you're in where you think that these are somehow the same thing

 

[TwinkO]

I always thought graveyard farming starts when people kill others on their graveyard platform. All other is a midfield fight. Exception are when FC/EFC is there.

 

[Mrcer]

I don't really care what my team does as long as the flag gets returned (those who have played with me know, I will rage like none other if I catch my team under a gy ignoring the efc). I would consider a team that locks down a spawn while keeping the flag at home an objective team.



However if I were to decide not to cap the flag and screw around while there was no efc and our team controlled the gy, it would become the kind of rather mean spirited gy farming I assume you're referring to.

in your personal opinion, would you think others would care if you were playing objectively(IE: getting the flag) while the other team cant even get out of the GY because ur teammates are keeping them from leaving GY?(IE: You might end up seeing a thread about your team gy farming[keeping them from leaving gy] even though you were still playing objectively)

 

[Aradiel]

I can gaurantee that no matter what you do people will care and complain and whine like little *******. The important question is what do you think. What other people think isn't important, especially when you consider that regardless of what you personally think, someone will disagree with you.