US Waw Tawent vs Giddy up Painaid 2/21/2010

[Painaid]

as soon as we find a new hunter and break him in with a premade or two we'll be ready to play you guys again

Okay. I was AFK when I received this tell so I was hoping for some clarification.

 

[Falaris]

I was told Waw Tawent would not be premading anymore for the foreseeable future due to one of your hunters leaving for boot camp for 3 months.

lol that an entire guild refuses to premade due to one person being unavailable.

 

[Healstrong]

they have more then enough geared hunters, one being away wouldn't really hurt'... would it?!?!

 

[Grimaldo]

The thing is, Waw tawent doesnt just bring anyone to premade they have to fit well in with there team, I dont blame them one bit for not premading because one of there members cant play, alot of people say one person wont make a big deal, well one little gear can totally fuck up a machine if it doesnt work like its suppose to.



I for one dont agree with cross queing, if you cant feild 10 people from your guild then you shouldnt que at all.



Congratz to Waw Tawent Beating Giddyup Painaid. as this is what this post was truely about.

 

[Twinkytoes]

The thing is, Waw tawent doesnt just bring anyone to premade they have to fit well in with there team, I dont blame them one bit for not premading because one of there members cant play, alot of people say one person wont make a big deal, well one little gear can totally fuck up a machine if it doesnt work like its suppose to.



I for one dont agree with cross queing, if you cant feild 10 people from your guild then you shouldnt que at all.



Congratz to Waw Tawent Beating Giddyup Painaid. as this is what this post was truely about.

Thank you. Finally someone who isn't a dumbass.

 

[Eliot]

Why does it matter if you don't win all of them?

 

[(Hass)]

I was told Waw Tawent would not be premading anymore for the foreseeable future due to one of your hunters leaving for boot camp for 3 months.

Yes I can confirm this.

 

[Pizza]

lol that an entire guild refuses to premade due to one person being unavailable.

That's what separates the top guilds from the rest. Guilds that are highly successful consist of a group of core players that play in every game.

 

[Falaris]

That's what separates the top guilds from the rest. Guilds that are highly successful consist of a group of core players that play in every game.

No, you couldnt be more wrong. There should always be 12-13 people that are part of an 'A team' at all times. Theres never one set 'best' team configuration for any bracket, including 19s. The _truly_ great guilds are adaptable, flexible.



What you do is the mark of a guild that is so concerned about how others view them in a video game they refuse to do something unless they feel everything is 100% perfect for them.

 

[Quelfep]

No, you couldnt be more wrong. There should always be 12-13 people that are part of an 'A team' at all times. Theres never one set 'best' team configuration for any bracket, including 19s. The _truly_ great guilds are adaptable, flexible.



What you do is the mark of a guild that is so concerned about how others view them in a video game they refuse to do something unless they feel everything is 100% perfect for them.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard something like that....

 

[Pizza]

No, you couldnt be more wrong. There should always be 12-13 people that are part of an 'A team' at all times. Theres never one set 'best' team configuration for any bracket, including 19s. The _truly_ great guilds are adaptable, flexible.



What you do is the mark of a guild that is so concerned about how others view them in a video game they refuse to do something unless they feel everything is 100% perfect for them.

Falaris you act like you are apart of an A Team of any of the top guilds in any brackets. I play on the A Team of the best 19, 29, and 39 guild in the game, I have credibility.



Why not form a guild and beat my 19 guild if you think that I'm running my guild wrong. We have yet to lose a premade for 2 years straight. If you try to say it's because we don't premade then you might want to ask every Alliance guild in Ruin if we have played them. We have played everyone that has accepted our challenge.



When I say "core" I mean a standard 5-6 players that are in every game. The others can vary. I think you thought I was referring to "core" as all 10 players.

 

[Falaris]

Falaris you act like you are apart of an A Team of any of the top guilds in any brackets. I play on the A Team of the best 19, 29, and 39 guild in the game, I have credibility.



Why not form a guild and beat my 19 guild if you think that I'm running my guild wrong. We have yet to lose a premade for 2 years straight. If you try to say it's because we don't premade then you might want to ask every Alliance guild in Ruin if we have played them. We have played everyone that has accepted our challenge.



When I say "core" I mean a standard 5-6 players that are in every game. The others can vary. I think you thought I was referring to "core" as all 10 players.

You do realize that I was on the A team for both the 29 and 39 guild that youre currently on before I quit _of my own volition_, right? I know youre a good player, and Im not denying that you run a good guild, but Im probably the wrong person to argue with regards to premade credibility. Why do you think PB is taking this weeks game with RT seriously, when theyve never capped on Pulse? Its because Im running the game. This wont be anything like the Red Text teams you played until this point (with a slight exception for the most recent games that I 'consulted' on by offering input while watching the stream). This doesnt even factor in that you guys use the exact team config that I suggested before ever coming to Lethon.



Your last paragraph doesnt really mesh with the post Im actually quoting. I agree there should be a solid 'core' and you mix/match the rest of your 'A teamers' around them. The whole reason that Pro didnt end up doing premades in Nightfall was because we had 1.5 of our 'core' interested in premades anymore, and 3.5 who werent. Regardless, even missing one person out of a 'core' group should never handicap any great guild, unless that person is the actual GM/premade leader.

 

[Eliot]

Premades are fun wether losing or winning, but some people just can't lose.

 

[Pizza]

You do realize that I was on the A team for both the 29 and 39 guild that youre currently on before I quit _of my own volition_, right? I know youre a good player, and Im not denying that you run a good guild, but Im probably the wrong person to argue with regards to premade credibility. Why do you think PB is taking this weeks game with RT seriously, when theyve never capped on Pulse? Its because Im running the game. This wont be anything like the Red Text teams you played until this point (with a slight exception for the most recent games that I 'consulted' on by offering input while watching the stream). This doesnt even factor in that you guys use the exact team config that I suggested before ever coming to Lethon.



Your last paragraph doesnt really mesh with the post Im actually quoting. I agree there should be a solid 'core' and you mix/match the rest of your 'A teamers' around them. The whole reason that Pro didnt end up doing premades in Nightfall was because we had 1.5 of our 'core' interested in premades anymore, and 3.5 who werent. Regardless, even missing one person out of a 'core' group should never handicap any great guild, unless that person is the actual GM/premade leader.

Yeah, the game sounds like it should be good. I'll be there . GL to you guys on Thursday.

 

[Evocate]

Which hunter is going to boot camp? =o Can someone explain how the cap happened? Cant see it =( And finally lol@Grabco.

 

[Twinkytoes]

Which hunter is going to boot camp? =o Can someone explain how the cap happened? Cant see it =( And finally lol@Grabco.

I can only explain your 2nd question, and only from what I saw, I can't tell you exactly. But it looked like:



The warrior from GuP had the flag and he was trying to get support on Horde Top of tunnel, and he was getting healed, but still taking massive damage, and it looked like either he died or he tried to pass the flag to painaid and the whole WT were there to intercept the pass and return it.

 

[Grabco]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

drayner. why do you let people with this iq into these forums...wow...just wow....

believe it or not you got trolled on TI forums kid.

 

[Ertai]

Which hunter is going to boot camp? =o Can someone explain how the cap happened? Cant see it =( And finally lol@Grabco.

We said drop as in drop from tunnel roof and come across mid and Trigs thought we meant drop the flag so he dropped it.

 

[Pizza]

We said drop as in drop from tunnel roof and come across mid and Trigs thought we meant drop the flag so he dropped it.

Painaid was there for the click, but got out clicked.

 

[Painaid]

Painaid was there for the click, but got out scrolled.

No I wasn't even clicking, and the flag was gray to me anyway for being out of range. I think it's obvious that was not an intended hand-off. But mistakes happen; communication errors are inevitable. It's disappointing that a silly error resulted in a cap, but I'm not going to dwell on it.



I think the video alone shows how anti-climatic the moment was. The way the game ended I believe was very unsatisfying for both sides. Then again, I'm not sure any outcome could have lived up to the hype. It's a game like that which really makes me hate the 25 minute timer.



I miss the 2+ hr showdowns with DEM last summer before the WSG changes.