Warrior F2P Blog.
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CIHC said:
Just wanted to ask you why you take 'smelting pants' over 'foreman's leggings'. Just over 2% crit in exchange for 14 AP (and some parry rating) seems like a very unfair deal. And cloak 'of the bandit' is just another example; 0.5% crit instead of 8 AP? Not really a fair trade.
Warriors don't get their damage out of high crit rating in this bracket, simply cause the gear ain't there to support trading strength for crit, we'll never get a high crit rating, so why bother if you could be stacking more AP/strength?
(Not bashing your build, just discussing.)
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That One OG
i have a pair of 7/7 stm str and foremans in my bags. in my experience with how my build runs (2 handed fury) 12 AP doesn make that much of a game breaking difference. you can easily shout every minute for extra str and agi which i find makes up for the lack of 12 ap. even that small amoumt of extra parry is not game breaking and i find it well worth the trade. the same can be said for the bandit cloak. I find that having a balance to provide just the right amount of burst needed to run my setup is more important than stacking str and stm like many main stream warriors.
need an answer on why i run two handed rather than dual?
need an answer on why i run two handed rather than dual?
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Like the build and tried my 2h reef axe this afternoon, was not impressed. Seems like bloodthirst is about nearly the same, crit less and have less white damage. Like the blog so far
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CIHC said:
I can say the very same thing; Battle Shout makes up for the "lost" crit when not wearing Smelting Pants, since it provides almost the same amount of crit. Battle Shout has nothing to do with the consistent burst vs. theoretical burst damage discussion with the current gear available.
(And the mail pants give 14 AP, not 12, on a sidenote)
Just wanted to point out aswell, that you seem to think that crit = burst, that ain't true, it's far too unreliable. At least for warriors in this bracket.
The warrior's main strength in damage pressure is that Bloodthirst is on such a low cooldown and can basicly be spammed while giving you enough time to fit other attacks in-between Bloodthirsts.
I'd rather have a Bloodthirst that hits generally harder and crits 10 out of 45 hits, then one that hits less and crits 10 out of 38 hits (rough calculation based on our armories, BS and Cruelty crit are in the equation.)
I usually run a 2hander aswell in bg's. Unless i can't be assed trying vs a 5+ hunter team, then i just run around with razor's edge. Aesthetics is srsbsns.
Hence why my armory almost always shows my warrior with 1handers.
But let's be honest, the only big difference is Rend damage. Cause you can't rely on white crits for initial burst.
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@ CIHC, About your latest blog entry;
Just wanted to share some of my stats in the 1handers vs. 2hander situation:
I use recount every bg, and for the last 30 or so bg's i did an equal amount with 1h's/2h and here is what i get:
(these numbers are averages, so ye, might vary from time to time)
1handers used: Legionnaire's Sword and Razor's Edge
2hander used: Reef Axe
(enhanted and using Coarse Sharpening Stones)
overall 1h stats:
~35% melee
~35% bloodthirst
~10% rend
rest of % is just split amongst other abilties, depending on situation etc
overall 2h stats:
~35% melee
~35% bloodthirst
~15% rend
rest of % is just split amongst other abilties, depending on situation etc
So it's obvious it does have an impact on Rend.
Now for actual numbers:
Highest Bloodthirst crits are, with both setups, between 450 and 500. Normal hits are ~200. No noticable difference between both setups.
Highest melee crits with 2hander are around 400, highest crits with 1handers are around 240 (main hand ofcourse).
Let me know if you need more stats (or more detailed).
Just wanted to add, that i certainly prefer a 2hander if going on a healer, the bigger white hits have more potential to suprise them. With 1handers (in a 1v1 situation) you just might have to smack him around for a while without really killing him...
Just wanted to share some of my stats in the 1handers vs. 2hander situation:
I use recount every bg, and for the last 30 or so bg's i did an equal amount with 1h's/2h and here is what i get:
(these numbers are averages, so ye, might vary from time to time)
1handers used: Legionnaire's Sword and Razor's Edge
2hander used: Reef Axe
(enhanted and using Coarse Sharpening Stones)
overall 1h stats:
~35% melee
~35% bloodthirst
~10% rend
rest of % is just split amongst other abilties, depending on situation etc
overall 2h stats:
~35% melee
~35% bloodthirst
~15% rend
rest of % is just split amongst other abilties, depending on situation etc
So it's obvious it does have an impact on Rend.
Now for actual numbers:
Highest Bloodthirst crits are, with both setups, between 450 and 500. Normal hits are ~200. No noticable difference between both setups.
Highest melee crits with 2hander are around 400, highest crits with 1handers are around 240 (main hand ofcourse).
Let me know if you need more stats (or more detailed).
Just wanted to add, that i certainly prefer a 2hander if going on a healer, the bigger white hits have more potential to suprise them. With 1handers (in a 1v1 situation) you just might have to smack him around for a while without really killing him...
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That One OG
As I said in the blog, everyone is entitled to play how they want. I do want to thank you for the numbers, I have added them to my blog post and given you credit for the information (and linked it basically to your post). I do not need anymore details, I do agree that running around with a 2 hander when your trying to kill a healer is quite enjoyable.
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That One OG
Lights, Camera, PvP Action?!, also, do you guys like the little avatar watermark fail in the bottom of this image?
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It's transparent.