Warlock vs Shaman healers

Ertai said:
A fully-geared, perfectly played Shaman will win the majority of duels against any other class at 19.



What about Igne on lock? Hes beaten every top shaman in US atm without popping the majority of his cds
 
Warlock doesn't beat shaman unless they get RNG'd out the ass with corruption glyph procs to make them have to play defensively. Which I've luckily never had happen to me. As soon as the shaman starts playing defensively the game is pretty much over.
 
When I used to play lock I found a way to beat shamans. I would, as someone said earlier, immolate and searing pain hoping they wind shear. If not then fake cast fear, and I would destroy most totems as they appear with mouseover wand. Once I got a fear I would cast another straight away if they havn't used trinket and then head straight for los. With this you should be able to get a full band, but if not then 2 ticks. Just keep repeating this until shamans ooms. I also used sacrifice/agm when I'm some distance away from the shaman and los with the shamans dot on me just to lessen some of that damage.
 
kablam said:
What about Igne on lock? Hes beaten every top shaman in US atm without popping the majority of his cds



Well, Igne is the best Warlock. However, I'm fairly certain that Igne's Shaman would dominate his Lock(assuming his shaman's gear got vamped up to his Lock's lvl) 8/10 times.
 
i think the only way to beat that shaman is to "scare" him. do as much damage as u can before it gets to melee range, so for a lock a searing pain spam is better than the DOT's forst because u waste 3 GCD's before u start ur real burst and ur DOT's will also only start ticking after 2 GCD's. if u can either get him low mana/health OR let him cast because he realizes that you will keep the burst on you that way, he'll waste even more mana. dont do DOT's before ur searing pain is silenced. and use his healing casts to run away a little bit(even if he has EB totem up) if he can not melee, he will have to either burn mana on casts or walk to you getting hit more and not able to heal himself on that situation. there is no presure as far as i kno if the shaman is at low HP. even if he stays at low HP, u can fake cast fear a little before he is close enough to you. than fully cast fear when he is close to you. 70% chance that he will not interupt it because u can not afford to fail for a fakecast when u got a lot of presure on your HP/mana. ofcourse he will pop AGM and stuff after a while, but this is, as said before, only a way to possibly kill it. i think it is the best way to do it like this and it did work pretty well so far for me.



as you can see, if u actually wasted your time to read this, the other weak point of the smaman is that he has to melee to do decent damage otherwise he will run OOM way too fast leaving his back to his AWSOME ability to heal himself. therefor i even think that a melee class will have to stay away from him and force the shaman to cast and LoS/bandage urself when the DOT's are gone. a warrior or rogue can force him to even pay a little attention to his mana because they can quickly attack the shaman and CC for some free distance to force him casting.



most inportant thing to a shaman: it is actually good not to LoS against him when he tries to make a cast. unless u can not bandage urself(or cast a healing spell) because it will waste way too much of his mana when he manages to finish his lightning bolt
 

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