Nico8
Grandfathered
The only remaining meaning to the word twink is your xp is turned off. Period.
EU+US Veteran's Legion Gear Prep Guide
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The only remaining meaning to the word twink is your xp is turned off. Period.
Allybeboba
Legend
Why does it look stupid if it the better gear in that slot? It only looks "stupid" to those that do not know why you are donning that particular piece of gear.
I would wear grey gear if it gave me an ilvl advantage. In fact, there is some high level grey gear. Only shallow people get hung up on the triviality of gear colors.
Peltzer
Grandfathered
Not calling anyone stupid for wearing that gear, just unfortunate Blizzard decided to go this route with gear after 11 years or so to make some white flower offhand item from Stratholme better than the actual gear they give you thru their PvP strongboxes.
Anyways I agree with Nico 100%.
Anyways I agree with Nico 100%.
Allybeboba
Legend
No, this is for instanced PvP only.
elffies
Legend
I see thanks. Could you tell me how to gear for world pvp?
Allybeboba
Legend
Any of the old guides will do just fine.
icehawk
The Beast Within
The higher ilvl statless gear is only better inside of instanced bg's and arena. For open world the lower level gear with stats is superior. The reason being inside instanced PvP, no stats from gear is counted. All that matters is ilvl, hence why this guide suggests the higher ilvl gear with no stats.
I personally keep one set for open world and switch into the 'bling' set for instanced PvP.
Hope this helps.
Vampiire
Grandfathered
ahhhh i see nowThe higher ilvl statless gear is only better inside of instanced bg's and arena. For open world the lower level gear with stats is superior. The reason being inside instanced PvP, no stats from gear is counted. All that matters is ilvl, hence why this guide suggests the higher ilvl gear with no stats.
I personally keep one set for open world and switch into the 'bling' set for instanced PvP.
Hope this helps.
thanks
öwlcapwn
Legend
I heard you can get Marks of Honor through low level pvping, Can someone confirm? I really just can't stand max level pvp and haven't since Wrath but I really want to buy some old PvP gear for transmog. On to my question, What enchants are best or do enchants not matter for Instanced PvP as they are also stats and stats do not matter in Instanced PvP only Ilvl does.
***Scratch the enchants part, Read the intro and saw the answer myself*** My Marks of Honor question still stands, Sorry in advance for not reading everything.
***Scratch the enchants part, Read the intro and saw the answer myself*** My Marks of Honor question still stands, Sorry in advance for not reading everything.
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Srs
Legend
Yes you can. You don't need any enchants; they don't work in BGs or any instanced PvP. Also, since the introduction of stat templates for PvP, the stats on your gear don't matter as soon as you enter. You are given stats based on the ilvl of the gear you have equipped (having all slots filled with your correct armor type also gives a bonus, as far as I know).
So, basically, your gearing priority for low-level is:
1) Fill every slot with anything you can find that is the correct type, even if it's gray. White vendor items and BoEs off the AH are great.
2) If you can equip a wand, it's currently giving "bonus stats", so use a wand and off-hand over any staff.
3) Get your ilvl up to about five levels above your character levels.
4) Try to get it higher if you have the money or time, but there is a diminishing returns after awhile, as it takes quite a bit of ilvl increase to raise your stats just one point.
Don't worry about all the invasion gear in this guide. Blizz slipped it in, in-between expansions, when no one was playing, and you pretty much had to no-life it to get a full set (if you were lucky, at that). Basically, invasion gear was a bullshit flash-in-the-pan, and most people don't have it, and you don't need it to be competitive. I would recommend to the author of this guide would mark them as grandfathered with an asterisk or something, and highlight the more obtainable gear.
Ignore the AGM and fishing trinket, no one has time for that crap anymore with cross-realm ruining it for everyone. Your mostly-BiS trinkets are going to come from gnomish engineering. Shoot, depending on class, half your gear comes from engineering, something you might not notice, reading this invasion-centric guide.
But I digress. Personally, I'd recommend locking at 20 and twinking there (unless you have a toon to level). If you stay at 20, you can play for free in the active 20-29 bracket (you just can't use the mail while you're unsubbed, so your Marks of Honor would stay on that toon until your resub). Inquire in the 20s forum for more info, or make a toon on an active 20s server such as Bleeding Hollow - Alliance, or play with the much better looking twinks on Aerie Peak - Horde.
P.S. Don't make a hunter.
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Srs
Legend
I hear you. Basically, we're still using this guide because it's really great resource for gearing up for Legion. Thing is, we're now actually in Legion, and anyone that just is getting into it, might find all the invasion gear on the list confusing/discouraging.
It would be awesome if you found the time to update it, but you could also give us your permission to rip-off most of it, and just update. Let us know what you feel like doing. I'm a little busy, atm, but after finals, I could do it.
For the time being, maybe I'll just link some of the items we've been using as our BiS, in this thread, so you don't have to spend time asking around in game for what most people are using, if you don't feel like playing.
Hunters are in lord-sovereign-of-gods/banned tier. Basically, they are so overpowered, they aren't even fun to play. They have a literal one-shot button, and are just gross. Horde friends will shun you if they find out you're playing one, regularly. However, Alliance players are easily entertained, so if you get into an AB, there might be 10 of them throwing a total of 30 axes at your head.
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Srs
Legend
Because I am lazy, I'm just going to put up the armories of my own, post-Legion Invasion, (mostly) BiS toons, so that anyone wanting to get into 20s real quick, can have a quick reference.
If you have a few thousand gold, depending on server, you can get a toon leveled up with engineering and first aid, in a few hours. Low on gold, that's fine, it will just take longer to get through professions (you can fill slots with dungeon/quest gear close to ilvl 25):
Lock
Mage
Priest
Druid
Monk
Hunter
Warrior
Paladin
No rogue or shaman at the moment, but rogues gear like monks, and shaman gear like hunters, except for the weapons listed in the above guide. Mogs are a work-in-progress.
I wanted to post this so potential twinks can get a real quick look at what's easily obtainable. As you can see, very little of this is RNG. The only improvements I can really get, are going to come from playing PvP itself, in the form of level 28 wrists, chests, boots, pants (on some toons) , and a weapon here and there.
The benefit of getting fully BiS, up from ilvl 25, is a small but real gain in stats. Worth doing, but not totally necessary to compete. In other words, it's twinking.
If you have a few thousand gold, depending on server, you can get a toon leveled up with engineering and first aid, in a few hours. Low on gold, that's fine, it will just take longer to get through professions (you can fill slots with dungeon/quest gear close to ilvl 25):
Lock
Mage
Priest
Druid
Monk
Hunter
Warrior
Paladin
No rogue or shaman at the moment, but rogues gear like monks, and shaman gear like hunters, except for the weapons listed in the above guide. Mogs are a work-in-progress.
I wanted to post this so potential twinks can get a real quick look at what's easily obtainable. As you can see, very little of this is RNG. The only improvements I can really get, are going to come from playing PvP itself, in the form of level 28 wrists, chests, boots, pants (on some toons) , and a weapon here and there.
The benefit of getting fully BiS, up from ilvl 25, is a small but real gain in stats. Worth doing, but not totally necessary to compete. In other words, it's twinking.
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dushancg
Grandfathered
Hello everyone, i'm new to f2p/veteran, and i have one question: can i level up engineering up to requirement for gear if my sub is currently not active on veteran account? http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Goribor/simple here is my rogue, hope you like transmog because gear is still in progress.
