Trilium's Rogue Guide 4.3

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Subtitles in - Red

Responses in - Green



Tables of Contents

1. Races

2. Proffesions

3. Gear

4. Play Style (Subject to Change)

5. Talents

6. How to "Ninja" Flags

7. Shout-outs



*Note*: The Trilium's Picks under each section are based on opinion.

Races

Alliance-

Human: I am personally a human as a rogue. This doesn't mean it's the best, no race is really "the best" it's just which abilities you prefer. So what do humans offer to rogues? They offer the http://www.wowhead.c...man-for-himself. This great racial ability offers a 3 minute less "removing impairing effects" trinket and also opens up a trinket slot. This allows you to get a second http://www.wowhead.c...na-grand-master. A bonus 12+ Stamina (120 Hp).



Night Elf: Questionably also one of the best races, the Night Elf's main racial is http://www.wowhead.c...8984/shadowmeld. For rogues this is like a vanish ability at level 19. This can easily be a real game changer. If used properly, you could get an ambushx2 for massive damage. One shot -take out the broom-



Gnome: Not many gnomes if your active in the 19 bracket. But their racial is http://www.wowhead.c...9/escape-artist. Clearly not as good ad the human, but it does have a 30 second less cooldown & it doesn't share cooldowns with your Insignia of the alliance. Also gnomes get the instant stun bomb.



Worgen: Worgen's can also be a viable race. They come with two boosts for rogue, a cit increase and of course http://www.wowhead.c...8992/darkflight, a 2 minute miniature sprint.



Dwarf: Dwarfs come with a fairly decent racial: http://www.wowhead.c...20594/stoneform. More of a survival thing, but can be used effectively by the right player.



Trilium's Pick: Human or Night Elf.





Horde-

Blood Elf: If you play the 19 bracket everyone sees the massive swarm of blood elves, but why? Blood Elves come with two vital abilites, the first is http://www.wowhead.c.../arcane-torrent. A 3 second silence to everyone around you with a 2 minute cooldown at this level is rare. In addition, they have an arcane resist ability which gives them the edge over spell-casters.



Orc: Orc's have the racial http://www.wowhead.c...0572/blood-fury which is self explanatory. I will admit not having much Orc experience, but I would presume it could do a nice little burst on the enemy.



Troll: Trolls have the haste racial http://www.wowhead.c...6297/berserking which also allows for a nice burst of speed hits. It also could allow a decent burst on the enemy.



Undead: ​Undead's have two abilities. The first is a little worse than human, http://www.wowhead.c...of-the-forsaken, but they have another ability which could be nice out of combat to make up for it: http://www.wowhead.c...577/cannibalize.



Goblin: ​Goblins have 2 main abilities:http://www.wowhead.c...070/rocket-jump which is a jump that propels you forward and can be used in various ways. The second is http://www.wowhead.c.../rocket-barrage which is an instant ranged attack which can be used to finish off your foe.



Triliums Pick: Blood Elf





Professions

*Note*: You only get two professions.



Primary-

Skinning: Skinning provides a great ability for rogues, a crit bonus: http://www.wowhead.c...ster-of-anatomy. It will provide 9 crit. rating at level 19.



Mining: Mining provides a minor stamina bonus for level 19s:http://www.wowhead.c...53040/toughness. Note that it doesn't increase your stamina by 60 at level 19.



Herbalism: This racial provides a small heal and increase your haste rating by 55. http://www.wowhead.c...55503/lifeblood



Engineering: Bombs and "Green Tinted Goggles" http://www.wowhead.c...-tinted-goggles if you can't get one of the other heads (check gear).



Trillium Pick: Herbalism and Skinning to 225.



Secondary's -

First Aid - Can obtain a level of 225 allowing you to usehttp://www.wowhead.c...necloth-bandage.



Fishing - Nothing really besides that you can use it to obtain the http://www.wowhead.c...cky-fishing-hat.



Cooking - To make your own food and/or for achievements.





Gear (*Note* BiS = Best in Slot or "The Best")

Standard-

Head: A.BiS is "Stained Shadowcraft Cap" http://www.wowhead.c...shadowcraft-cap

B. Another option would be "Lucky Fishing Hat" http://www.wowhead.c...cky-fishing-hat



Neck: A.BiS is "Sentinel's Medallion" http://www.wowhead.c...inels-medallion

B. Another option is "Thick Bronze Necklace" http://www.wowhead.c...bronze-necklace



Shoulders: A.BiS is "Stained Shadowcraft Spaulders" http://www.wowhead.c...craft-spaulders

B. Another option if you don't have Heirlooms is "Shadowfang Spaulders" http://www.wowhead.com/item=65960



Cloak: A. BiS is "Tumultuous Cloak of the Bandit" http://www.wowhead.c...umultuous-cloak (bandit version)

B. Another option would be the "Inherited Cape of the Black Baron". http://www.wowhead.c...the-black-baron



Chest: A.BiS is "Stained Shadowcraft Tunic" http://www.wowhead.c...adowcraft-tunic

B. Another option could be "Tunic of Westfall" http://www.wowhead.c...nic-of-westfall if you have it (Grandfathered)

C. Another option would be "Armor of the Fang"



Bracers: A.BiS is "Black Wolf Bracers" http://www.wowhead.c...ck-wolf-bracers

B. Another option would be "Wrangler's Wristbands of the Monkey" http://www.wowhead.c...lers-wristbands.



Gloves: A.BiS is "Foreman's Gloves" http://www.wowhead.c...foremans-gloves

B. Another option would be "Gloves of the Fang" http://www.wowhead.c...ves-of-the-fang



Belt: A.BiS is "Vigorous Belt of the Bandit" http://www.wowhead.c...4/vigorous-belt (bandit version)

B. Another option would be "Deviate Scale Belt" http://www.wowhead.c...iate-scale-belt



Legs: A.BiS is "Smelting Pants" http://www.wowhead.c.../smelting-pants

B. Another option would be "Leggings of the Fang" http://www.wowhead.c...ngs-of-the-fang.



Feet: A.BiS is "Feet of the Lynx" http://www.wowhead.c...eet-of-the-lynx

B. Another option would be "Cobrahn's Boots" http://www.wowhead.com/item=65961



Ring 1: A.BiS is Ello's Band (Alliance Only) http://www.wowhead.c...0905/ellos-band

B. Another option would be "Legionnaire's Band" http://www.wowhead.com/item=20429

C. Another option could be "Dread Pirate Ring" http://www.wowhead.c...ead-pirate-ring



Ring 2: A.BiS is "Signet of Argas" http://www.wowhead.c...signet-of-argas



Trinket 1: BiS is http://www.wowhead.c...of-the-alliance (or horde.)

If Human: http://www.wowhead.c...na-grand-master



Trinket 2: BiS is http://www.wowhead.c...na-grand-master



Main Hand: A. BiS is "Shadowfang" http://www.wowhead.c...1482/shadowfang

B. Another option would be "Venerable Mass of Mcgowan" http://www.wowhead.c...mass-of-mcgowan.



Off-Hand: A. BiS is "Shadowfang" http://www.wowhead.c...1482/shadowfang

B. Another option would be "Venerable Mass of Mcgowan" http://www.wowhead.c...mass-of-mcgowan.



Ranged: A.BiS is "Sludge-Caked Throwing Knives" http://www.wowhead.c...throwing-knives (Horde Only)

B. Another option is "Throat Piercers" http://www.wowhead.c...throat-piercers

Enchants-

Head: None

Neck: None

Shoulders: None

Cloak: "Enchant Cloak - Stealth" http://www.wowhead.c...t-cloak-stealth

Chest: "Enchant Chest - Greater Stats" http://www.wowhead.c...t-greater-stats

Bracers: "Enchant Bracers - Superior Stamina" http://www.wowhead.c...uperior-stamina

Gloves: "Enchant Gloves - Superior Agility" http://www.wowhead.c...uperior-agility

Belt: None

Legs: "Medium Armor Kit" http://www.wowhead.c...edium-armor-kit

Feet: "Enchant boots - Minor Speed" http://www.wowhead.c...ots-minor-speed

Ring 1: None

Ring 2: None

Trinket 1: None

Trinket 2: None

Main Hand: "Enchant Weapon - Agility" http://www.wowhead.c...-weapon-agility

Off-Hand: "Enchant Weapon - Agility" http://www.wowhead.c...-weapon-agility

Ranged: None



Health Set (Flag Carrying) *Not including Grandfathered*

Valuable: Your team may not have any suitable flag carriers, someone needs to do it. You can use this set to run the flag.



Head: "Lucky Fishing Hat" http://www.wowhead.c...cky-fishing-hat



Neck: "Thick Bronze Necklace" http://www.wowhead.c...bronze-necklace



Shoulders: "Exceptional Stormshroud Shoulders" http://www.wowhead.c...hroud-shoulders



Cloak: "Tumultuous Cloak of Stamina" http://www.wowhead.c...umultuous-cloak (of stamina)



Chest: "Toughened Leather Armor" http://www.wowhead.c...d-leather-armor



Bracers: "Bracers of the Ancient Grove" http://www.wowhead.com/item=52616



Gloves: A. "Blackened Defias Gloves" http://www.wowhead.c...d-defias-gloves

B. "Bristlebark Gloves" http://www.wowhead.c...stlebark-gloves



Belt: "Vigorous Belt of the Monkey" http://www.wowhead.c...4/vigorous-belt (of the monkey)



Legs: A. "Blackened Defias Leggings" http://www.wowhead.c...defias-leggings

B. "Leggings of the Fang" http://www.wowhead.c...ngs-of-the-fang



Feet: "Feet of Lynx" http://www.wowhead.c...eet-of-the-lynx



Ring 1: "Ellos Band" http://www.wowhead.c...0905/ellos-band



Ring 2: "Blood Ring" http://www.wowhead.c...4998/blood-ring



Trinket 1: "Arena Grand Master" http://www.wowhead.c...na-grand-master



Trinket 2: A. "Arena Grand Master" http://www.wowhead.c...na-grand-master

B. "Inherited Insignia of the Alliance/Horde" http://www.wowhead.c...of-the-alliance



Weapon: "Sharpened Scarlet Kris" http://www.wowhead.c...ed-scarlet-kris



Off-hand: "Furblog Medicine Pouch" http://www.wowhead.c...-medicine-pouch



Ranged: A. "Farstrider's Longbow" http://www.wowhead.com/item=22982 (Horde only)

B. "Bow of Ire" http://www.wowhead.c...6708/bow-of-ire (Horde only)

C. "Keeshan's Bow" http://www.wowhead.c...27/keeshans-bow (Alliance Only)







Health Set (Alternative) *Thanks to Saxx*

Head: "Lucky Fishing Hat" http://www.wowhead.c...cky-fishing-hat



Neck: "Sentiel's Medallion" http://www.wowhead.c...inels-medallion



Shoulders: "Exceptional Stormshroud Shoulders" http://www.wowhead.c...hroud-shoulders



Cloak: ""Tumultuous Cloak of the Bandit" http://www.wowhead.c...umultuous-cloak (of the Bandit)



Chest: "Stained Shadowcraft Tunic" http://www.wowhead.c...adowcraft-tunic



Bracers: "Black Wolf Bracers" http://www.wowhead.c...ck-wolf-bracers



Gloves: A. "Blackened Defias Gloves" http://www.wowhead.c...d-defias-gloves

B. "Bristlebark Gloves" http://www.wowhead.c...stlebark-gloves



Belt: "Vigorous Belt of the Bandit" http://www.wowhead.c...4/vigorous-belt (of the bandit)



Legs: A. "Blackened Defias Leggings" http://www.wowhead.c...defias-leggings

B. "Leggings of the Fang" http://www.wowhead.c...ngs-of-the-fang



Feet: "Feet of Lynx" http://www.wowhead.c...eet-of-the-lynx



Ring 1: "Ellos Band" http://www.wowhead.c...0905/ellos-band



Ring 2: "Blood Ring" http://www.wowhead.c...4998/blood-ring



Trinket 1: "Arena Grand Master" http://www.wowhead.c...na-grand-master



Trinket 2: A. "Arena Grand Master" http://www.wowhead.c...na-grand-master

B. "Inherited Insignia of the Alliance/Horde" http://www.wowhead.c...of-the-alliance



Weapon: "Shadowfang" http://www.wowhead.c...1482/shadowfang



Off-hand: "Shadowfang" http://www.wowhead.c...1482/shadowfang



Ranged: A. "Farstrider's Longbow" http://www.wowhead.com/item=22982 (Horde only)

B. "Bow of Ire" http://www.wowhead.c...6708/bow-of-ire (Horde only)

C. "Keeshan's Bow" http://www.wowhead.c...27/keeshans-bow (Alliance Only)

D. "Sludge-Caked Throwing Knives" http://www.wowhead.c...throwing-knives (Horde Only)



Enchants -

Head: None

Neck: None

Shoulders: None

Cloak: "Enchant Cloak - Stealth" http://www.wowhead.c...t-cloak-stealth

Chest: "Enchant Chest - Major Health" http://www.wowhead.c...st-major-health

Bracers: "Enchant Bracers - Superior Stamina" http://www.wowhead.c...uperior-stamina

Gloves:"Enchant Gloves - Superior Agility" http://www.wowhead.c...uperior-agility

Legs: "Medium Armor Kit" http://www.wowhead.c...edium-armor-kit

Feet: "Enchant Boots - Minor Speed Increase" http://www.wowhead.c...ots-minor-speed

Ring 1: None

Ring 2: None

Trinket 1: None

Trinket 2: None

Ranged: None





Play Style



Why I am including this: Most rogues have different play styles. How they sap, how they position themselves, and overall how they play objectives in Warsongs/Duels/Fights. I don't expect any rogue to agree with my tactics, so please hold your "Why would you do ____?"

Thanks



General: Rogues adapt to the environment around them. How many enemy's are there? How much HP does the EFC have? All these things you need to keep in mind before engaging into a battle. As a rule of thumb, I try to either run the flag or return the flag, generally the only times I come out of stealth if it benefits the scoring of my team.



Some situations:

S:Waw Tawent has a 10 man going and they are all escorting their Flag, what do I do?

A: Assuming someone else is running the flag, I would start sapping off some players of the group, try to split up the pack, There would be no way to kill him with so many, so why shadowstep in?



S: Both teams are evenly matched, there is 3 minutes left and 4 debuff on each flag carrier. Your team has capped last.

A: Depending on our teams healers, I would say we had 2, I would Say in chat for the healers to drop back on D, I would also drop back on D. Since we capped last we would be winning. I would want to play more defensively to insure the safety of my flag carrier.



S: A hunter on the other team is flag carrying mid, no one is around him. It's up to you!

A: First sap the hunter, do NOT waste shadowstep. Open with ambush and don't let him get away from you. If he uses scatter shot (assuming your trinket is up) remove it fast and stay in his range. Once he disengages THEN use shadowstep, he should not be able to escape you then.



Video of me playing: Try to watch how I move, not the ambush's in the start. Also, some good hunter killing. Also notice, I wait for on my teammate while I have the EFC sapped, you do have people on your team!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aMFt6lsc3w





How to Ninja

Explanation: One of the best things about being a rogue is when you "Ninja" a return. What is a "Ninja"?. When the opposing team is passing the flag to a more suitable flag carrier, you return it when it is dropped before the enemy that was suppose to pick it up gets it. There is 3 main ways to "Ninja".



Sap Ninja -

Explanation: This time of "Ninja" is a little more tricky. So how do I sap "Ninja"? Right before they are about to pass the flag, you sap the person you think they are passing it to, you can generally spot who (Lots of HP, Pally, Warrior, Druid, etc.). This method is a little more of a guessing game because you need to pick who to sap AND time it right. If you sap to early, you will alert them that a rogue is around and they will be a lot more cautious when passing the flag. There are many variables that come with this method, but it can allow you to safely "Ninja" the flag without being caught. Make sure, you do not alert them that a rogue is around, do not sap anyone near by unless it is needed or when you think they are going to pass. If all works well, they will drop it, the supposed flag carrier won't be able to pick it up because he will sapped, and you return it for your team!



Shadowstep Ninja-

Explanation: The shadowstep Ninja is by far the most challenging of the "Ninja"'s to master" You need to be quick with your clicks and time it exactly right, or you WILL die. While you are setting up for a shadowstep ninja, like the Sap Ninja, do not alert the enemy's there is a rogue around. The rest is very simple, a half second before they drop the flag, shadowstep behind the flag carrier and click the dropped flag. This method takes a lot more effort because you are forced to "out-click" the other opponents around you. But, it can be very effective.



Follow Ninja -

Explanation: The Follow "Ninja" is best used when its a one to one pass off, no big crowds. In this method, you get as close as you can to the enemy flag carrier without being caught, this takes some practice, the first few times you may be caught because you will not know how to range yourself. But, in this way, don't use sap or any other spells, just get very close, that's why it is very hard to do in big mobs. You want to be right next to the flag when they drop it so you can return. This way really takes no skill, but practice due to the fact that if they see you, they will kill you then pass, and you will not be able to have another shot at "Ninja"ing the flag.



Talents

I only have experience with Sub. so that's what I will be showing you. Ask Mocha for Combat.



subtlety-

Nightstalker x2http://www.wowhead.c...62/nightstalker

Improved Ambush x3 http://www.wowhead.c...improved-ambush

Waylay x1 http://www.wowhead.c...improved-ambush





Nightstalker: I picked this to get the speed boost to catch the enemy.



Improved Ambush: More opener damage.



Waylay: Slows down the enemy so they can't kite/get away.





Shout-Outs: Thank-You to the following: Thaliose, Peach, Chillout, Saxx, Curley, Celmer, Mocha, Tonks, and some others I forgot.



Any suggestions? Just post them. Thanks!
 
Yeah that's why I am here. Rogues are very very challenging as you know.
 
thank god, wasn't sure how to gear or spec



We know...

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He wrote "In progress" .. Its very hard to comprehend if you dont "launch" it and then add stuff on the way..

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I woud recommend:



Another color.. I dont like that very grennish green..

URLS.! Not just links..
 
You should probably include racial resistances for races.



Also, engineering could be considered for a rogue. Should also add that gnomes get instant stunning-bombs.
 
We know...

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He wrote "In progress" .. Its very hard to comprehend if you dont "launch" it and then add stuff on the way..

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I woud recommend:



Another color.. I dont like that very grennish green..

URLS.! Not just links..



Hover over them.
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You should probably include racial resistances for races.



Also, engineering could be considered for a rogue. Should also add that gnomes get instant stunning-bombs.



Yeah I will. Just getting the base down. Started this an hour ago.
 
Cool guide. Also, the Venerable Dal'Rend's Sacred Charge (BoA sword) is good for main hand. Gloves of the fang are a good replacement for Foreman's Gloves if you haven't gotten them yet.



Include a guide in here on how to kill hunters solo
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Glad to see someone realizes the worth of playing a NE rogue...don't forget we get 5% extra stealth movement speed (actually 6% I think, because we move at 124% movement in stealth whereas humans move at 118%...please correct me if I'm wrong), additional chance for enemies to miss attacks on us, and 27.54% chance to resist roots, earthbinds, thunderstorms and other nature spells
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Cool guide. Also, the Venerable Dal'Rend's Sacred Charge (BoA sword) is good for main hand. Gloves of the fang are a good replacement for Foreman's Gloves if you haven't gotten them yet.



Include a guide in here on how to kill hunters solo
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Glad to see someone realizes the worth of playing a NE rogue...don't forget we get 5% extra stealth movement speed (actually 6% I think, because we move at 124% movement in stealth whereas humans move at 118%...please correct me if I'm wrong), additional chance for enemies to miss attacks on us, and 27.54% chance to resist roots, earthbinds, thunderstorms and other nature spells
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I am going to include all the race resistances eventually. Was hitting main racials.
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BoA ring might not be a bad choice?

Btw Beastly has shoulder chants too but they dont work just like the head

Didn't he find some resist enchant to head?
 
Human > NE in any way shape and form imo. Solid guide, keep it up Tril
 
can we stop littering the 19s forum with this shit? theres a guide section for a reason
 
can we stop littering the 19s forum with this shit? theres a guide section for a reason



Dory you can't start topics in the guide section.
 
u can start topics in 'user submitted guides'



That's how I did it.. there are plenty of relevant guide's out there. I'm not sure your guide is much different then any of them up there but I'd suggest going over tactic's or something to make your guide unique.
 

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