To join the dark side or not...

Rayekk said:
So, I’ve logged out in my SP gear on Freefoot- would love your insight as to his Balance viability. I also have enought AV marks to get a belt and boots, but I THINK they're a downgrade, but I'm not sure.

from what i've seen on other balance druids, you should have lots of spellpower. the purpose of a balance druid isn't necessarily to have lots of survivability, but to have burst potential. try to get as much spellpower as possible, then if you need more health or mana you can switch some pieces to what your current gear is.



i'm not sure what quest gear or instance gear you should get, but if you can find level 29 greens 'of healing' then that could get you started. get enchants like 15 SP to bracers, 30 SP to weapon, 16 SP to gloves (if you choose something other than razzeric's, ie level 29 gloves of +13 SP), and also you should get Raptor Hunter Tunic +150 hp/6 stats for a huge survivability boost.
 
Druiddroid said:
from what i've seen on other balance druids, you should have lots of spellpower. the purpose of a balance druid isn't necessarily to have lots of survivability, but to have burst potential. try to get as much spellpower as possible, then if you need more health or mana you can switch some pieces to what your current gear is.



Yeah- I figured as much- the only issue is, I'm almost tapped out (like most leather 29's) on XP, so going back to get caster/SP gear may not be an option for mw (quest times are certainly out!). I could go for some of the BoE AH items but again, I’m feeling kinda “mehâ€￾ about him in general, so I’ll think it over. I many be able to get the leather arcane bracers too (again, not sure if I have enough XP headroom to turn in…)





Druiddroid said:
i'm not sure what quest gear or instance gear you should get, but if you can find level 29 greens 'of healing' then that could get you started. get enchants like 15 SP to bracers, 30 SP to weapon, 16 SP to gloves (if you choose something other than razzeric's, ie level 29 gloves of +13 SP), and also you should get Raptor Hunter Tunic +150 hp/6 stats for a huge survivability boost.



I'll start looking for the "of healing" pieces- I do have the Raptor Hunter Tunic already, so that's a done deal (the stats enchant would be the only change needed there) and I have the Racing grips and the +20 SP on them as well. Didn't know there was a >35 SP to wrists enchant- is that a AQ20/40 drop? And I have the 22 Intel to weapon now- would I be looking a lot of my mana pool should I switch it to SP?



All that said, a hunter is looking more and more like a better option….
 
I have a 29 balance drood and they're hella fun. Theyre not the best class in the world, but they are a good "balance" between dps and heals if you do it right. Here's a good list to go by imo:



Wisperwind headdress

crystal starfire medallion

Boa Shoulders

wsg back

Robes of Arugal/inferno robes

+9 healing cuffs

+13 healing gloves

+13 healing belt or chamooras band

16 healing pants or 9/9 eagle

Boots are a tossup. fishing boots add a ton of survivability, but if you want sp power go acidic walkers. Or you could go 16 arcane for glass cannon action.

WSG ring

Deadmans hand

Pick up a seal of argas too for the goof.

AGM

Insignia



If I forgot any slots I'm sorry I'm doing this off the top of my head. Also have a regen set, especially wind spirit staff with spirit on it. You go oom all the time so youll need it



Just remember your sick burst dps, but you also can dish out nasty heals if need be. You'll have games where your top dmg and healing if you do it right. I'd also spend most of my life on a stump in wsg if i were u. Also work on jumpturnoomfiring Its your only hope of not being raped by melee.



My gf is about to kill me now tho so i g2g, but I'll toss up a few more tips later.
 
Kazin said:
Here's a good list to go by imo:



Wisperwind headdress

crystal starfire medallion

Boa Shoulders

wsg back

Robes of Arugal/inferno robes

+9 healing cuffs

+13 healing gloves

+13 healing belt or chamooras band

16 healing pants or 9/9 eagle

Boots are a tossup. fishing boots add a ton of survivability, but if you want sp power go acidic walkers. Or you could go 16 arcane for glass cannon action.

WSG ring

Deadmans hand

Pick up a seal of argas too for the goof.

AGM

Insignia



That's what I was afraid of- some of this is already done, but with a little XP Headroom as I have, the BoP's from instances may be an issue... I see at least 3 sep instnace items in there i don't have.



/sigh- the best-laid plans of mice and men...
 
Rayekk said:
That's what I was afraid of- some of this is already done, but with a little XP Headroom as I have, the BoP's from instances may be an issue... I see at least 3 sep instnace items in there i don't have.



/sigh- the best-laid plans of mice and men...



1 Clear to the boss

2 Die

3 kill boss

4 profit
 
heh- yeah- I'm familure with the "no XP gains" on getting drops like that- the only issue I have is that I have to ask someone to help me! (Being a typical guy, I HATE to ask for help like that!)



Like I say, I'm going to think about it over the weekend while I'm working out in Tucson. Mayhap I'll decide that I like the idea as swallow my pride and have the GF run me through some stuff.
 
Ah ok, so its not because hunters are "boring" or "eazymode", you're naturally biased against them. Its ok, it'll get better over time.



How did any of what you quoted tell you im naturally biased against them? I have a 29 hunter... This hunter was made when there was a deadzone and disengage wasnt a "OH SHIT I FKCED UP! OH WELL DISENGAGE LOL IM AWESOME" skill. Ya know, when hunters were just a resonably powerfull class.



I walk out of bgs nowdays with top damage, top kbs, ect, ect. Most twinks dont even try anymore, if i get the conc shot on them they just stand there and die. In between aspect dancing and swiftness pots they die to instants before they get within 30 yards of me anyways.



The only reason im so aggresive on my stance towards hunters is their general additude. It disgusts me when hunters go around spouting shit like "oh im not op, im just better than you"... Its like that dickhead in the porsche that zips past you at a million miles an hour stopping and saying "oh my car isnt faster than yours, i just drive better"...



The op asked if he should roll a hunter, my overall opinion is a resounding NO but if thats what hes into then he should look at Forwardz from vengeance. Hes one of those douchebags i talked about earlier but in general i find he backs it up more than most -_-.
 
While I appreciate your constructive input Ohpee, please don't try to take over my request for info about hunters in the 29’s into a personal pissing match
 
i thought ohpee brought out his thoughts in a respectful manner. in fact, i agree with his post.



hunters at 29 are pretty overpowered, and there are more than a few that are not good players, but can't help but feel they are good because they are killing many people.



anyways, i hope that doesn't derail your thread too much. but just be aware that 29 hunters are a risky class to roll because they can sometimes be too easy to play.
 
from what i read from many of youg uys, you seem to think the game is purely mathematical. but we all know its not just that, skill comes not from mathematics of your character, but from you heart which the game do not even have a say in it. thus saying a class is purely OP cause you can simply button mash it and win is purely non-logical ! Its like saying a fireman is the hero of the day just cause he held the firehose in his hands.



we still make decisions, and by the gameplay of people, those decision are not made by the game but by you the player, bad decision leads to bad moves, even leads to the demise of a whole BG. seriously, a class is as bad or as good as the player behind it. let me ask you this... if the class is so OP that even 2 year old babies could win with it, then why are you saying you can defeat them all day long ? naturalh is right on this matter, it all depends on the guy behind the keyboard, if he's weak and do not know his class, then the class will be easy to defeat.



how many times have i seen warriors standing there hoping to kick my ass while just standing in front of me ? how many times have i seen rogues jump like crazy in circle around me just to make me lose my target ? its easy to see the OPness in a class we dislike, but its hard to admit there is better people then you on this planet !



for once i always thinks there is better players, not better class !

so if i get owned in a BG, i know its not because of the class being OP, more like the other guy had a plan, and it was better then mine !
 
Rayekk said:
Well, I'm trying to decide on something, and I'd love some input. I've got my 29 druid, and he's fine and all, but I'm just not finding the "love" with him in WSG or AV's. In WSG I'm either healing or the FC (something I do waaaaay too much in the 19's) and in AV I'm usually running around healing, and not much else. And because he’s a druid, (or maybe because he’s a bit to complex for me ;P) I’m not really viable in a DPS role. Since my GF already has a 29 at my 2nd choice (a shaman) I’m seriously contemplating wrenching my soul from my chest and rolling….. a Hunter (I already have the BoA mail shoulders on a leveling alt, so that’s part of the equation).



So, my questions are:



1) Should I stick with my Druid and continue to try to find a play style I like, or scrap it and roll a new hunter



2) If I do roll a hunter, what are your thoughts on the best alliance race: Draenei, Dwarf or Night Elf?



3) Is the Bone Bow a viable weapon for the 29’s?



Thanks in advance!



I couldn't find either of your toons in the armory, so I can't look at your druid, but since I have a feral 29 myself, as well as a hunter, I'll add my input.



If you're wanting to DPS in feral at 29, stay away from anything not cloth, if you're alone. I have 419 AP in cat form with my druid, yet he only does 47-58 a swing, thus fighting a mail twink is a severe uphill battle. Don't mess with twink hunters, rogues, or shamans while solo, any of their specs combined with moderate competency are better than us Ferals.



General tips would be to always use your bleed moves, always move in stealth, and always stay in a group. Ferals aren't a rambo class, and as such you shouldn't bite off more than you can chew, stick to taking out healers, mages, locks, and any lowbies or regular players. You may not be taking out big twinks all the time, but you are keeping enemy numbers dwindled.



Also, for WSG, if you've specced to increase your cat forms running speed to 30%, you can easily chase down and kill most lone flag runners, since they're usually more concerned about running than fighting.





As for the hunter questions, Race comes down to this:

NE-Increased Dodge, Shadowmeld

Dwarf-Increased Gun Dmg, Stoneform

Draenei-Gift of Naaru, Chance to hit Increased by 1%



I'm a Night Elf, since I like to defend with an ambush tactic(my pet is a cat), placing my pet by the flag/node and cloaking it, while I shadow meld in the distance. This usually attracts a lone enemy to come try to cap the node, or take the flag, my pet engages them when they get close enough, and since I'm not in sight they attack my pet. Then I just unload, and most enemies are killed before they even see me.



Stoneform is great because it removes poisons, and less importantly bleeding effects. When a rogue(typically the bane of a Hunter if they're smart) hits you with crippling poison, you a free get away card without using your trinket or disengage.



Gift of Naaru is a heal over time, obviously a good choice if you don't have someone to heal for you, but compared to the others, I'd say its not the best for a hunter.



Others have already answered your bow question, so I'm done. Sorry for the long response. To think this is my first post.



Anything else concerning Feral Druids, or Hunters at 29, I'd be happy to help.
 

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