Zanasis
Legend
Lev10 for 20.........years that is.
Tired Of Lvl 11 Warrior!!!
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Robo
Veteran
Bank account alt MFs in a nutshell (they are actually loaded af)
Bakedaflol
The Arthritic Arch-Druid
Ah yes, let's gatekeep an allready small community
Magrain
Veteran
I certainly don't like gatekeeping personally, I love seeing new stuff happening. What I don't like are folk who think they're good enough and act high and mighty all of a sudden, just because they have a "budget" 11 warrior. I've seen too many moronic 11 warriors that barely do Strathholme without dying or ruining shit for other players, while having a useless healer player who's on follow because "he's getting carried, we don't need heals".Ah yes, let's gatekeep an allready small community
Then proceed to get us all tragically killed and leaves anyways. Thanks to these folk, we twinks actually garner bad attention. I legit got criticized and kicked out from an instance just because I'm a twink. While this may be an isolated incident, I have no doubt these 11 Warriors have created a bad reputation in the grand scheme of things. For reference, I'm a Warlock, so it's not like i'm rushing stuff or ninja pulling and going apeshit.
BoatsAndHoes
Member
Ive ran 300+ TW zones in the past month
Not once have I ran into any of these toxic warriors you guys are mentioning.
Either yall are making shit up, like extreme exaggeration with how often youve seen it happen, or I'm the luckiest pugger ever
Heck out of all the randoms Ive been grouped with theres only been 1 guy who was upset, most of them beg me to queue for the next one.
In all honesty, and this isnt everyone who is bitching, but I think the majority who are bitching havent played in over a year and are upset theres more than 3 posts a week on their precious message board.
Not once have I ran into any of these toxic warriors you guys are mentioning.
Either yall are making shit up, like extreme exaggeration with how often youve seen it happen, or I'm the luckiest pugger ever
Heck out of all the randoms Ive been grouped with theres only been 1 guy who was upset, most of them beg me to queue for the next one.
In all honesty, and this isnt everyone who is bitching, but I think the majority who are bitching havent played in over a year and are upset theres more than 3 posts a week on their precious message board.
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toskosa
Grandfathered
Skip bosses? get flak from ppl
clear the entire dungeon? get flak from ppl.
Can't win.
warcraftisgood
Member
Tip for ZF, if your random group agrees to it and you're properly geared with nitro belt, parjesh's medallion and stealth ring, you can run to the prisoner place, stealth to drop all aggro, and solo from there. Still a pain but saves like 4 min.
warcraftisgood
Member
I actually agree. TW is making the entry bar really low which is a good thing for the community since it allows fresh blood (hell I was one of them) but it also lets in ppl who wanna half ass it. The usual setup is 2 pendulums + full time warped gear+lifestealing, not even shadowland gems. They're going through the dungeon fast sure but at a fraction of the speed they could be going at if they knew what they were doing with right gear and trinkets.
They have 0 knowledge about trinkets and stuff which obviously is alright since everyone starts somewhere but they have no incentive to learn. They just wanna level their own alts and leave. Twinking carries more weight they just a char running dungeons with scaling. It means actually learning about it, game knowledge and understanding why it works and pushing a low level to the limit. I personally don't consider those guys in looms and vendor tw gear real twinks.
Bakedaflol
The Arthritic Arch-Druid
Tbf, that's fair enough..
And I've been very inactive for this current new-wave of twinks, so please BEAR with me
Just done a few dungeons the last couple of days, and had fun. I genuinely think it's a fun thing to see when people get to experience the feeling of being new to twinking and enjoying the powertrip.
Maybe I've not had enough playtime recently to see the bad sides you're explaining. Though in my experience too, there are always some who makes it suck..
However, I think people generally tend to just appreciate the carry. Wether it was on Remix, or just rolling around on my retail characters.
There are always gonna be some moaners every other run who don't enjoy it, and complain... But there's always next run?
Also, messing up a run on a lvl 10 or 11.. Even without gear, you're strong enough to breeze through. How does this even happen?
Xerious
New Member
Tired of 10/11 twinks?
I made mine to just carry my main account alts to level cap fast - and its does get boring fast, but is very quick.
I came accross this post and now want to level up a 30, but its quite complicated to cap at 30 but gear up at 23locked then 24 locked to get the best ilvl107 gear.
Also knowing that at 30 there is other gear - but that will lock you out of the Titan Run.
If you want a time sink and challange:
check this out
https://xpoff.com/threads/herald-of-the-titans-11-0-7.100569/
I made mine to just carry my main account alts to level cap fast - and its does get boring fast, but is very quick.
I came accross this post and now want to level up a 30, but its quite complicated to cap at 30 but gear up at 23locked then 24 locked to get the best ilvl107 gear.
Also knowing that at 30 there is other gear - but that will lock you out of the Titan Run.
If you want a time sink and challange:
check this out
https://xpoff.com/threads/herald-of-the-titans-11-0-7.100569/
x187soldier
New Member
I came across a lv 15 evoker 206 ilvl gear on my lv 11 warrior twink and dude was 1-2 shotting bosses. I guess that is the way to go now actually insane
warcraftisgood
Member
think that's an old char though. u can't get ilvl 206 on evoker anymore
Magrain
Veteran
The Banshee boss from Strathholme can be a fuckfest when a twink gets possessed and kills all of the party. The 2 I've encountered were legit an "Immovable object vs Unstoppable force" scenario. It was funny to watch them both kill each other nontheless, then popped a Chaos Bolt on the possessed one to resume the encounter.Also, messing up a run on a lvl 10 or 11.. Even without gear, you're strong enough to breeze through. How does this even happen?
There's also Smite's encounter where most of the time his stuns can kill majority of the party. Most of the incidents were practically folk rushing stuff as fast as they can, again, I have no issue with that cuz it's fun. And everyone is free to try new things, but you get my point.
CroyeTchor
Member
Sadly no situation will satisfy anyone. My two cents are : as long as you're nice and polite, asking people if they don't mind you gong nuts (a lot of times you'll get no answers but at least you did your part, you can go nuts and if they complain then what the hell are they on ?), don't go overboard and leave them at the entrance while you blast, and just respect other people (most of the time they won't mind a carry) there's no real issue to have.
I mean even during SL when we were much weaker (prolly 2-3 times less DPS on average I'd say), our damage was still noticeably higher than the average leveller cuz, well, that's what good gear for the level does. Back then I personnaly warned people because of a few experiences that turned out not to well as they kicked me simply for damage (and I was letting the boss pull, simply the damage beiing too high didn't suit them as the DPS felt useless and there was maybe a bit of ego in there idk).
My point being : there will be people getting angry at you, yes they are a minority but they are a loud one. Twinks already get a bad rep generally to a lot of folks even outside the loud minority so some people react negatively fairly quickly. Of of the few times I've met 11 twinks -that I remember at least- I've seen one 11 (or 10 idk) MW Monk that was super nice and asked us before going nuts, a fury warrior (met it on my Blood DK) that wanted to go too fast and got himself killed. Prolly not that well geared as my DK handled the mobs fairly easily. I've also met a fury warrior that absolutely melted stuff and we had a few runs, the first tank left as the warrior didn't answer him when he asked him to stop overpulling -which in a way is understandable- and I've prolly met a few others but if I have they surely weren't too great and I missed them.
There's a bit of everything, just keep in mind that there is other people playing, not just you. If they ask you to slow down or to let them fill their roles (tanks mostly) please be understandable. Maybe those folks are a bit stretched for time, they enjoy WoW and want some easy content to play their favourite class/spec and TW just fills the bill. Don't ruin the fun of other players, be considerate.
Now to be honest it's TW content. There were fellas optimizing this way before we lower levels got access to it. People will get used to it and to be fair, after running some -admitedly not that many, most likely around 10- TW dungeons in tha last 10 days, I haven't even met a single 11 despite changing groups everytime. The "11 pandemic" doesn't seem that bad from my point of view ^^
It's a funny fad though it does get a bit old when the forums get filled with threads all asking the same questions about the same subjects and those "junk volume" threads make the actually useful information harder to reach. The fact that most those folks won't even stay around makes it annoying.
Eh, it's not gonna last too long, at least not at the rate it does now.
I mean even during SL when we were much weaker (prolly 2-3 times less DPS on average I'd say), our damage was still noticeably higher than the average leveller cuz, well, that's what good gear for the level does. Back then I personnaly warned people because of a few experiences that turned out not to well as they kicked me simply for damage (and I was letting the boss pull, simply the damage beiing too high didn't suit them as the DPS felt useless and there was maybe a bit of ego in there idk).
My point being : there will be people getting angry at you, yes they are a minority but they are a loud one. Twinks already get a bad rep generally to a lot of folks even outside the loud minority so some people react negatively fairly quickly. Of of the few times I've met 11 twinks -that I remember at least- I've seen one 11 (or 10 idk) MW Monk that was super nice and asked us before going nuts, a fury warrior (met it on my Blood DK) that wanted to go too fast and got himself killed. Prolly not that well geared as my DK handled the mobs fairly easily. I've also met a fury warrior that absolutely melted stuff and we had a few runs, the first tank left as the warrior didn't answer him when he asked him to stop overpulling -which in a way is understandable- and I've prolly met a few others but if I have they surely weren't too great and I missed them.
There's a bit of everything, just keep in mind that there is other people playing, not just you. If they ask you to slow down or to let them fill their roles (tanks mostly) please be understandable. Maybe those folks are a bit stretched for time, they enjoy WoW and want some easy content to play their favourite class/spec and TW just fills the bill. Don't ruin the fun of other players, be considerate.
Now to be honest it's TW content. There were fellas optimizing this way before we lower levels got access to it. People will get used to it and to be fair, after running some -admitedly not that many, most likely around 10- TW dungeons in tha last 10 days, I haven't even met a single 11 despite changing groups everytime. The "11 pandemic" doesn't seem that bad from my point of view ^^
It's a funny fad though it does get a bit old when the forums get filled with threads all asking the same questions about the same subjects and those "junk volume" threads make the actually useful information harder to reach. The fact that most those folks won't even stay around makes it annoying.
Eh, it's not gonna last too long, at least not at the rate it does now.
Bara
Grandfathered
If people complain there is a reason.
And I don't mean the levelers who find themselves with a warrior 11 in the party, those on the contrary are really happy because they can get to the maximum level faster, because we know how things work nowadays, I get to 80 and then I go to a site that tells me which buttons to press for my rotation and which items are best in slots.
people are lazy and don't even read their spellbook, then they go on raids and suck and wonder how it's possible.
The levelers who complain the most are the tanks while the other pulls, unfortunately if the roles are not respected they have reason to complain, but it is something that has always happened, not only in the twink world, if someone is an idiot he is an idiot at both level 11 and level 80.
Since I feel involved because I think I'm the first to have used the term 'pandemic'
I want to clarify
I have nothing against them but it is necessary to make a distinction between new twinks and level 80s bored by the endgame.
There is a huge difference If you know what I mean.
Here in this forum there are people(not me, I'm too lazy to be a pure F2P) without being able to access the mailbox and without being able to trade and use the auction house, have managed to assemble much better characters than these 'bored 80s' who usually buy 2 PoDs from the vendor and then they walk around dressed like a murloc.
There are people who have done thousands of runs in wod dungeons in the past to have the bis warforged gear and other thousands of times to have an additional socket.
There are people who set alarm clock for camping rares.
People who have raised reputations and leveled professions to the maximum, the useful ones and the less useful ones just for a sense of completeness.
People who have changed factions to get an exclusive horde or alliance quest reward.
People who created higher level characters to farm green BoE for their twink
People who, in order to put a lifestealing on their weapon, must first farm the recipe, then farm the materials and this also applies to other professions.
And I could go on and on...
These people complain (including me) because they don't like being compared to the Bored 80s, who get mediocre gear after only 25 timewalking dungeons and then come to this forum to say they're bored or asking for advice on where they can improve their gear and after a couple of weeks they're still going hanging around with pieces that have dodge or spell power, or who have only raised haste and left the other stats behind and are struggling to stay alive because they have 3% versatility and you realize that they aren't interested in improving but it was just an excuse to link their armory and say: look at me I exist!1!!!1
I would like to have the ability to speak English appropriately I don't want to sound arrogant or superior. I'm the worst of all.
This whole situation is really funny though
Be patient friends, Pfizer and Obsidian Entertainment are working on the first dose of the Avowed vaccine which is expected in February.
And I don't mean the levelers who find themselves with a warrior 11 in the party, those on the contrary are really happy because they can get to the maximum level faster, because we know how things work nowadays, I get to 80 and then I go to a site that tells me which buttons to press for my rotation and which items are best in slots.
people are lazy and don't even read their spellbook, then they go on raids and suck and wonder how it's possible.
The levelers who complain the most are the tanks while the other pulls, unfortunately if the roles are not respected they have reason to complain, but it is something that has always happened, not only in the twink world, if someone is an idiot he is an idiot at both level 11 and level 80.
Since I feel involved because I think I'm the first to have used the term 'pandemic'
I want to clarify
I have nothing against them but it is necessary to make a distinction between new twinks and level 80s bored by the endgame.
There is a huge difference If you know what I mean.
Here in this forum there are people(not me, I'm too lazy to be a pure F2P) without being able to access the mailbox and without being able to trade and use the auction house, have managed to assemble much better characters than these 'bored 80s' who usually buy 2 PoDs from the vendor and then they walk around dressed like a murloc.
There are people who have done thousands of runs in wod dungeons in the past to have the bis warforged gear and other thousands of times to have an additional socket.
There are people who set alarm clock for camping rares.
People who have raised reputations and leveled professions to the maximum, the useful ones and the less useful ones just for a sense of completeness.
People who have changed factions to get an exclusive horde or alliance quest reward.
People who created higher level characters to farm green BoE for their twink
People who, in order to put a lifestealing on their weapon, must first farm the recipe, then farm the materials and this also applies to other professions.
And I could go on and on...
These people complain (including me) because they don't like being compared to the Bored 80s, who get mediocre gear after only 25 timewalking dungeons and then come to this forum to say they're bored or asking for advice on where they can improve their gear and after a couple of weeks they're still going hanging around with pieces that have dodge or spell power, or who have only raised haste and left the other stats behind and are struggling to stay alive because they have 3% versatility and you realize that they aren't interested in improving but it was just an excuse to link their armory and say: look at me I exist!1!!!1
I would like to have the ability to speak English appropriately I don't want to sound arrogant or superior. I'm the worst of all.
This whole situation is really funny though
Be patient friends, Pfizer and Obsidian Entertainment are working on the first dose of the Avowed vaccine which is expected in February.
Magrain
Veteran
Lord, I still miss farming Feathered Headdress way back then., or camping Grovekeeper Y'aal to get a socket cape...
Wills
New Member
Hi Bro, I noticed your level 60 Fury Warrior has the ilvl 337 trinket "Zugdug's Piece of Paradise". I checked that this item drops from a rare elite in Highmountain during Legion, but when I tried farming it, I only got the scaled-down ilvl 44 version. I'm wondering how you managed to get the level-appropriate version of this trinket? Really appreciate any tips you could share!
(English isn't my first language, hope this makes sense!
)
sifukungfu
New Member
I love my monk, but its still slower than my furrywar