you dont get it do you, there is almost no such thing as a good player in 19s because any average gamer should be skill capped at their class in 19s on day one unless youre an fc, you act like its rocket science mate. keep in mind, im talking about invividual class skill, not teamwork or positioning which does require skill in 19 premades, but in pugs its just common sense and not be a retard. but you act like youre so nuts at playing a 19 rogue like there is so much to it, woahhhh gougeing/sapping defensively/restealthing/kicking takes soooooo much skilllll and game knowledge.. its common sense that any idiot should know. the skill gap between 19s and top rated arenas isnt even funny, so to claim being good as an invididual player in 19s is just laughable, the skill in 19s is in full 10v10 premades where the game becomes a chess match...which, you never even do, and no queuing with 5 of your bumlords against questers doesnt count.
Okay so a couple of things here and some of which I agree with.
'any average gamer should be skill capped at their class in 19s'
I agree it should only take a couple games for you to be at your peak performance however there is people out there with so many games played on NA on EU and on private servers and they still make the same stupid stupid mistakes.
'im talking about individual class skill, not teamwork or positioning which does require skill in 19 premades but in pugs its just common sense and not be a retard'
I semi-disagree with this. I don't think individual 'class' skill mechanics etc is hard for realistically any class, I've never claimed it is either, I am stating that people are BAD at it not that it is HARD to be GOOD. Yes most of the time it is common sense and not be a retard but once again the point I'm making is that people also struggle with this!!! From my own experience of playing, watching vods and everything in between.
'you act like you're so nuts at playing 19 rogue like there is so much to it doing XYZ takes sooo much skill and game knowledge, its common sense that any idiot should know, the skill cap between 19s and top rated arenas isnt even funny'
Once again I agree with you, it is common sense any idiot should know, the difference between the best 19 players and best rated arena players at endgame isn't close - I fully agree - But I say I'm the best as a troll thing really like you've made clear again and again it's not hard to be good - I am making the point that people don't have the 'common sense' etc that I do - that is it. Not that I was gifted by God to play 19s and that it has the highest skill cap this world has ever seen and no1 can reach it.
'the skill in 19s is in full 10v10 premades where the game becomes a chess match...which, you never even do, and no queuing with 5 of your bumlords against questers doesnt count'
I don't enjoy 'competitive' 10v10s in Vanilla across the board not only at 19. It's boring it's slow its tedious and 1 bad player on your team makes such a big difference it's not something I'd like to play in. Having said that If I was to I know for a fact I would be good at it as like you said it really isnt hard it comes back to learning your role learning the script and having your ears and eyes open. Which once again multiple people are struggling with, not that its difficult they're just bad. I have played competitive 10v10s in multiple other expansions and have been known for being good at them but once again it wasn't hard then it isn't hard now. Even if hypothetically it did have a high skill cap - it wouldn't matter as due to the lack of good players you wouldn't need to perform too crazy either ways.
I feel like you really misunderstand my opinions because a lot of what you said when you weren't just being a trolling ape I agree with.
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read what i wrote again, i agree with you, yes jumps do take skill too. all of the stuff that actually takes skill in 19s quack hasnt proven hes good at at all, because most of the time these skills come into play as an fc, or in 10v10 premades in a fair playing field, not games when youre rolling with 5 of your croneys against questers like quack does all day. hes delusional and needs to get his head out of his ass.
I'll agree I'm not that good at jumps in all honesty I don't know all of the jumps regarding the sweet spots to hit - I know that I'm good for different reasons. Once again I do not think I am the best because I queue 3 mans in pugs while sitting in discord talking about something that has 0 to do with WoW or listening to random pitbull music while muted with a music bot in the call.
as for landing on the horizontal bar from tot, focus on leaving the roof at the highest point of the metal plate square, the angle to face can take a while to get used to but you can use pieces of the terrain as a point of reference to aim for to make it more consistent, but a lot of it comes down to mouse accuracy/smoothness if you want to do it maximum speed all the time.
