The Twenty League Poll

How will you participate in this?

  • I will participate

    Votes: 18 54.5%

  • I will participate and donate

    Votes: 3 9.1%

  • I will not participate, but I will donate

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • I will not participate

    Votes: 11 33.3%
  • Total voters
    33
If you want to make it as easy as possible for everyone to take part (including those who don't usually play this bracket, but might be interested in the event), then might I recommend using only gear items that can be obtained more than once, and with minimal effort, namely boss drops, and F2P/unlinked heirlooms, with no enchants (because let's face it, F2P limited chants are a lot of work for very little in the way of stats), and no satchel loot (everyone's had a run of bad luck with that on at least one character).


  • P2Ps/Vets would be able to use existing characters, instead of having to roll fresh ones, because they wouldn't have to worry about some once only items already having enchants on, if they can get new copies from a few dungeon runs.
  • F2Ps can similarly use existing characters, and do dungeon runs for copies / clone heirlooms they already have.
  • Completely new players wouldn't have to do professions, quest chains, or farm for rare BoEs to get up to the same standard.

Schedule the event for after a DMF, and it would give everyone a chance to get F2P/unlinked looms for a couple of characters (treasure map, and a few stocks runs nets you an easy 150 tickets).

You could allow OP classes (feral/BM) if they leave some slots empty, to bring their damage/survival in line with other classes (test a bit by duelling).
 
Turtle said:
[MENTION=18689]Trialmop[/MENTION] its a league for 20s guys, its easier to explain the sub-league with a thread title like that

its not the actual name, nothing official is being done here just yet
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ok that makes sense It would seem a little funny and odd if it was the name of the actual event.
 
Sounds dumb as fuck. What's the difference between this and any other organized war game/arena people play? Why do you need people to "donate".

If you want a balanced tournament just get every person who still has a real f2p level 20 twink and fight each other. Oh wait everyone's a sellout for those high level enchants, they just justify it by staying level 20.
 
Yasueh said:
If you want to make it as easy as possible for everyone to take part (including those who don't usually play this bracket, but might be interested in the event), then might I recommend using only gear items that can be obtained more than once, and with minimal effort, namely boss drops, and F2P/unlinked heirlooms, with no enchants (because let's face it, F2P limited chants are a lot of work for very little in the way of stats), and no satchel loot (everyone's had a run of bad luck with that on at least one character).


  • P2Ps/Vets would be able to use existing characters, instead of having to roll fresh ones, because they wouldn't have to worry about some once only items already having enchants on, if they can get new copies from a few dungeon runs.
  • F2Ps can similarly use existing characters, and do dungeon runs for copies / clone heirlooms they already have.
  • Completely new players wouldn't have to do professions, quest chains, or farm for rare BoEs to get up to the same standard.

Schedule the event for after a DMF, and it would give everyone a chance to get F2P/unlinked looms for a couple of characters (treasure map, and a few stocks runs nets you an easy 150 tickets).

You could allow OP classes (feral/BM) if they leave some slots empty, to bring their damage/survival in line with other classes (test a bit by duelling).
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I considered this idea but by doing all that it truly seems to defeat the soul purpose of a Twink and what we stand for.
 
playdoe said:
pure f2p or linked f2p. none of this non-boa and in the middle bullshit lol wtf.
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Again, this brings in the common outsider's POV. It would seem odd to only allow certain enchants and certain BoA's. Overall, if the other poll gets enough interest of the f2ps (veterans seem to be rising up to that poll) we might take this a different coarse.
 
Turtle said:
Incorrect, I still am in the 20-29 bracket.

If your are reffaring to one of my characters not being 20, that can be said about anyone.
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Yes in the game but that's not the bracket on the forums. Clearly but that's not what I meant and I don't think your stupid enough to have thought that's what I meant.
 
Turtle said:
IMPORTANT If you have voted on this poll, It is vital that you also vote on this poll: http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f43/level-twenty-league-f2p-vet-p2p-20-a-68986/


I want to get everyone's opinion on a League for level 20s.
It will have many similarities to the Twink Cup.

I had small talk with [MENTION=22365]ßurg[/MENTION] and we managed to solve any issues we might encounter due to the division within our community.
With that being said terms such as "Starter Edition" "F2P" "Veteran" or any related-like terms will not be used in any official upcomming threads.

I can't provide much information on how this will go until we get enough on interest.
However, I will be mentioning a vital aspect: The Classic Sub-League

The Classic Sub-League is exactly as how it sounds. A sub-league within the main league.
It basically consists of none-enchants none-boas. That is why the term "Classic" is used, as it feels appropriate. It will most likely be treated as the main league, with the only difference being the ones described earlier. No BoAs includes: Head, Neck, Shoulder, Chest, Legs, Rings, and even Trinkets.

So if anyone is interested in helping to make this happen do vote please.
I encourage everyone to support this!
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A few questions...
Why not DPR? If weapons are allowed. Compare DPR to a quest ring and compare a BoA weapon to a quest weapon. And BoA weapons are allowed? This makes no sense. If anything, it is the weapons that should be disallowed.
Are grandfathered items allowed? There are many many quest items no longer available. Especially since these rules apply.
If we allow level 21 then why not level 22 or 24? Are not level 24's "classic"? Where does it end? You can't make a rule that suits YOU and you alone.

BTW...
We have tried this many times before. At least something similar and it has never taken off. Why? Because, many people do not like playing with restrictions.
We even went to the trouble to make entire gear sets for each and every class and spec. I am sure the long time level 20's that have been here since Cata, or at least lurked here since then, remember.

/cheers
Sweetsidney
 
AlbinoCow said:
Most ppl who have played in both vet / f2p and even 29 premades have agreed that playing without chants is the most balanced pvp setting for wsg by a long shot, shouldnt the main event which is to draw the most ppl to be the most balanced?
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One of the best ways to keep it the "most balanced" is to limit or discontinue the use of procced enchants on DPS. Static enchants are not all that horrible. It is the proc enchants that bite hard.

Sweetsidney
 
Allybeboba said:
A few questions...
Why not DPR? If weapons are allowed. Compare DPR to a quest ring and compare a BoA weapon to a quest weapon. And BoA weapons are allowed? This makes no sense. If anything, it is the weapons that should be disallowed.
Are grandfathered items allowed? There are many many quest items no longer available. Especially since these rules apply.
If we allow level 21 then why not level 22 or 24? Are not level 24's "classic"? Where does it end? You can't make a rule that suits YOU and you alone.

BTW...
We have tried this many times before. At least something similar and it has never taken off. Why? Because, many people do not like playing with restrictions.
We even went to the trouble to make entire gear sets for each and every class and spec. I am sure the long time level 20's that have been here since Cata, or at least lurked here since then, remember.

/cheers
Sweetsidney
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Forbidden BoAs includes weapon too

And we dont allow anyone above level 20, i dont know were such ridiculos idea that came from
 
Off topic but was just wondering, how did you become bracket manager? In the thread I saw Burg and Lenny had the most votes
 
Lankypuss said:
Off topic but was just wondering, how did you become bracket manager? In the thread I saw Burg and Lenny had the most votes
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Please PM any personal questions and leave this thread on topic.
I also feel offended by such questions, as "I did not deserve it" or something
 
Turtle said:
Forbidden BoAs includes weapon too

And we dont allow anyone above level 20, i dont know were such ridiculos idea that came from
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One would think it came from someone advertising a level 21 in their signature as well as having their TI name customized as being "21".

/cheers
Sweetsidney
 
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