The Jackhammer Market Value

Ochi

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Hi everyone, I found a seller for the jackhammer and I am wondering if anyone could let me know the going amount for Jackhammer. I know it is tough to price such a rare item but if you could give me an assumption would be great.
(Cant really use Undermine Journal to find the going price)
 
I had a legit offer back in wotlk for 250kg.

Of course that was before warriors got the haste buff.

Best of luck
 
I will repeat this and repeat it again. This was tested and the proc rate is CRAP. I cannot think of one class where it would be BiS. If I am wrong please do prove me.

It does not stack and only refreshes if dual wield. This assumes nothing has changed with it in the last 6 months.

To me? It's only use would be for the vanity of its rarity. Value? I would not pay more than 20k for one.

Yes it's proc is awesome. But you can wait for ages for it to proc and it likely won't proc when you need it...
 
It's valuable in the sense of:

If an Arms Warrior was using one, and the proc went off; I wouldn't want to be the person he's targeting for the next 10 seconds.

Other than that, The Jackhammer has great burst value. But There are better weapons for over-all damage output. And until someone does a comparison of a BiS Arms Warrior using Jackhammer vs BiS 2H'er from a DMG Recount.

I'd say record the dmg 6 different times for both weapons.

3 times record it for 30 seconds, each recording with the jackhammer procing at least once for it's full duration.
3 times again, but for 5 minutes instead of 30 seconds.
Then average out the damage between the 30 seconds of the two weps and 5min recording of the two weps.

This will show each weapons dmg for it's burst value and the long-term dmg.

And this time, not with White hits. Using this rotation: Mortal Strike --> Overpower --> Slam ---> Repeat.


Until then, the only thing that we have actually confirmed is how often The Jackhammer procs while dual-wielding and only using white hits. 1 Proc Per Minute is what I believe was recorded. Not the best but definitely not the worst.

No one is saying that the Jackhammer is BiS@mrdooby, but you can't state that it's there's a better weapon since no one has recorded short-term dmg(with at least 1 proc from TJH) and long-term dmg. All you can safely state(without anyone arguing with you) that the Proc rate from the Jackhammer is not as great as we all hoped.



Maybe this next part will be more helpful to you Ochimaru.

This item is so incredibly rare, that the value of the item is only determined by the buyer; not the seller. There hasn't been enough sells for this item to be even deemed a price. And not only that, the jackhammer still hasn't been tested enough to actually determine if the haste proc(in both short term and long term dmg recordings) can outweigh the overall better dmg from the current BiS 2her(that has yet to be tested against the Jackhammer).

Here's what has been confirmed:

Using white hits/Dual Wielding two of them. --The Jackhammer sits at ~1 Proc Per Minute. The Proc does not stack, it refreshes itself. The Proc chance has not been confirmed.

Until someone does test it on the PTR, we cannot assume the jackhammer is better than the current BiS 2h'er(vice versa) nor can we determine the exact price value. As mrdooby stated, his value of the Jackhammer is 20k at most; while the seller that I spoke to back in wotlk valued it at 250k.

Since no one can actually prove(or disapprove) if The Jackhammer is BiS with actual evidence to support it, there's not really a price on it other than the fact that the drop rate is so freaking low; that it's only real value is in it's rarity. And since the current BiS 2her is much easier to obtain than the Jackhammer, there's not really any point in someone wasting their time with the Jackhammer since the current weapon is getting the job done.

To make an analogy:

Comparing Foreman's Leggings to Kalecgos' Gift

Foreman's leggings takes quite a bit of RNG and can be very time consuming to farm. The next best thing has 6 less armor than foreman's and to obtain it; you just complete a short chain-quest. Just because Foreman is technically better, doesn't mean that it's worth a lot of gold. It's better, but kalecgos is easier to obtain and you only lose 6 armor in comparison. For trial accounts, they might not even waste their time farming them. For people buying them off the auction house, I would probably spend around 500-1000g at most for foreman's.

The Jackhammer may be MUCH BETTER, barely better, MUCH WORSE, or only barely worst than the current BiS 2her. But regardless of that, the current bis 2her is very easy to obtain. That being said, that alone puts the Jackhammer's value way down; especially since there hasn't been enough tests on the Jackhammer.

Given our current info on the Jackhammer, Mrdooby's number is much more accurate than the one I received back in wotlk. If we did more tests on the PTR, that number may go down to 15k if we confirm that it is not better than the current bis 2her; maybe even less. However it's very difficult to put a number on it if it ends up being better than the current BiS 2her. If it's barely better, well maybe no one wants to pay a gazzilion gold to get a weapon that's only barely better. So 20k may only go up to 25k at most. But if it is waaay better, then that's where the seller will make some big $$$. Given that it is already super rare and impossible to farm, if it's much better than the current 2Her; then the price of it could easily be equivalent to the Stam lens(back when it was GF'd in cata) or Unearthed Bands(w/ GF'd Stats) if not much much more.

Best of Luck to you.

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I cannot think of one class where it would be BiS.

Yes it's proc is awesome. But you can wait for ages for it to proc and it likely won't proc when you need it...

If any class, it'll be a warrior. 50% Haste Increase for warriors as of 5.2, puts the haste proc over 75% haste increase for 10 seconds. But the downside is, you have absolutely no control over when the proc happens. If the proc happens when you need it, I'd hate to be that person getting hit(lul), but if it procs when you don't need it; it's just a wasted proc.
If someone can prove that the Jackhammer is better and we can determine the proc chance%, we could easily time this weapon with Lifeblood+Trinkets+RacialCDs(if any) for when we need to burst. Then Swap the weapon, after the 10 seconds are up, and just use the current bis 2her until your CDs are up again. It's very easy to assume the weapon is no where near better any other 2hers if the proc isn't up. So just use it for it's Haste Proc, then swap your weapon out after the 10 seconds are up :)

Some nasty burst.
 
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A few people have offered to sell it to me each one being 150k+ Gold, I am going to get the item tomorrow night. I will do several dps test comparing it as arms damage to the Scholo 2h sword. Then i will do tests comparing ppm in arms to fury. ( Doubt it will differ there) I will post the results.
 
BAR > Scholo weapons imo, slower and has crit!
 
Both scholo weapons have crit and you can put savegery on them. IMO makes them better.
 
I dont know who last tested the procs but, It is proccing like crazy i did a uld run and it had up for 90% of the time just kept refreshing it self.
 
I dont know who last tested the procs but, It is proccing like crazy i did a uld run and it had up for 90% of the time just kept refreshing it self.

Keep in mind this was tested with the following circumstances:

1. Dual Wielding Two of them
2. Using only white hits. No abilities were being used
3. PTR in the Early Release of Cata

We didn't confirm the Proc Chance and we assumed from the video that the proc had a 1min GCD.

If you could provide a link to a stream or a video of you using it, that would be really helpful!
 
Def no internal CD on it ill fraps a uld run sometime so you can check it out. its pretty insane.
 
Yes definitely need a video of this 90% uptime.

Wonder if it procs more often due to aoe? Try it single target too. You don't get to mass aoe in PvP usually - remember that...
 
I tried it using only whirlwind and thunder clap from what I can tell it only procs from white hits only.
 
Uh the jackhammer sucked, PoD wasnt that good either sure 350dmg was alot back then an avg player had like low hp

i already posted this, disagree all you want but i am firm; Ravager - Item - World of Warcraft was THE best a 39 twink could get, due to the proc

Why?Because it pretty much nets you extra attacks, like flurry axe/thrash blade. Sure its a tad bit fast...but slow does NOT always means good for two-handers, especially if there are alot of sub rogues on enemy team


It was just a matter of people using their mice and controlling it(the proc).which they usually sucked at

was easy to get too i think 2-3 runs and you had 1

i dont know anymore but i think the jackhammer is worthless, boa weapons>all as of now very little blues can outclass
 
Hey taxi,
Ravage got you extra attacks k cool. Do you know how many extra autos i get in when JH is procced. Although i agree i am using boas in most cases unless I am on the fc. Its good to have multiple gear sets.
 
The Ravager....

It's proc is a death wish in PvP, that is why no-one with a clue used it. It's damage was inferior, it had no stats and the proc made you stand still for 9 secs doing a Bladestorm that just needed to be moved out of then you could range nuke them to death before their awesome "proc" finished.

Note the proc, it is an attack every 3 secs for 9 secs. It was not even that good if you just stood in it, you could just stand there and heal yourself back to full as a healer as you did a /facepalm emote at the user. ;)
 

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