The Ideal Bracket

[threesets]

The Ideal Bracket

Which bracket is the most ideal to reroll in?

Leveling is a Con

One thing that acts as a deciding factor, for Which bracket I will experiment with next, is the leveling. Nobody can say with a straight face that they enjoy leveling. For me its the fact that I want to jump right into my character and begin experimenting with different builds and gear sets. This cannot be done with higher level brackets. For me it leaves the 19s, 10s, and 1s brackets.

Easy starter gearing, but going the extra mile to 100% BIS takes dedication

When gearing up I like a challenge, including rare items, and items that can potentially cost a large chunk change. In Other words I like a bracket that can be easy to build a close to best in slot set, but the last complete best in slot items require hard work and dedication. If you are not a rogue or a fc sham/ druid, the 19s bracket is easy to gear up for. Boas and dungeon items make up a good amount of the best in slot items. However for the 10's bracket there are best in slot gear sets that require farming and dedication. Coppercloth gloves, adept's gloves, and boar hide leggings are some of these items. The boa ring from the Saturday fishing competition is another item that a small handful of people have obtained. Therefore the 10s bracket allows quick gearing for a semi best in slot gear set, but the last few pieces can take weeks to farm.

Complete balance is unachievable... but which bracket is closest?

The next topic I want to talk to you about is pvp. The 10s bracket has been getting more and more active over the past couple of weeks. The pvp aspect of this bracket involves classes that bring unique roles to the team. More unique than other brackets because the lower amount of abilities leads to certain classes having different forms of cc available to only that class. This includes prot pallies having the only silence other than racials. People like to think that hunters fill up the bracket, but in reality there only a few active hunters. The pvp aspect is a lot more balanced than other brackets.

Any OP levels in the bracket?

This brings me into another topic... 14's. 14's may seem over powered, but the truth is they are not. 14's give up a whole lot of crit and haste scaling for 2 more talent points and a little bit more health. 14's give up a lot for a little. This brings a unique perception of the bracket because take into account a warlock. Staying level 10 hey can put out some of the highest amount of damage, but at level 14 they obtain fear, which can be a game changer. However their damage drops drastically. In other brackets going to the highest level allowed in the bracket grants you more damage and more survivability. But the 10s bracket, you chose between more damage or more cc/talents/ abilities. It is a fair and balanced trade, if you chose to go level 14. The 10s bracket is a very unique bracket that allows some of the most balanced battlegrounds and pvp to take place in twinking.

If you are looking for an ideal bracket to twink in, that is easy to semi gear in, and requires drastic farming to finish up you set, than roll in the 10s bracket. If you are looking for a bracket that has balanced pvp and doesn't have an over powered level to twink at, like 84's an 24's, than create a twink in the 10s bracket. If you are looking for a community which is the opposite of elitist, than you are a perfect fit for this ideal bracket!

 

[Sabtah]

Nicely presented, although, I'd like to say that apart from the Battleground PvP, Level 1's are pretty much the exact same :3

 

[saxxon]

i really wish 10s took off, they sound like a really diverse bracket , i guess its not to late though ! might give it a go

 

[Lil]

Ideal bracket: a F2P only bracket that has a max of 3 of the same class in every bg. (not sure if this was asking opinions or just stating yours but thats my opinion anyways)

 

[The Saint]

there isn't an ideal bracket in wow period, anyone remember lvl 10 resi twinks? even 85s have legendary rogues.

if the bracket takes off (EU) then i'd make one, but noway would i think it would be "ideal", sadly wow doesn't do ideal

 

[Gethi]

Ideal bracket: a F2P only bracket that has a max of 3 of the same class in every bg.

Stop playing a hunter then. Alliance has more than horde.

 

[Healstrong]

i played and loved the 19's bracket for years, but nothing has ever been as balanced and diverse as the 10-14 bracket! even with so few gear alternatives and such a clear ideology of what is the "correct" spec to play of every class ( as each bracket seems to have) the 10-14 bracket is far more fun and challenging in a full twink wsg or arena due to the diversity of spec and talents that each class has to offer. i'd say that this is the best bracket by far, and i have tested and played most of the ones available. there are very few interupts, snares and roots, however each class has a few talents that really bring a unique quality which none other can. every spec healer is viable. every spec dps is viable, most classes can also effectively Flag carry, which you won't see too much diversity of, in higher level brackets. jump on board and roll a twink for the greatest bracket in game!

 

[Wafflecakes]

Could not disagree with this "blog" more and think its is wrong and misguided at every point.

Its easy to claim that a bracket that hardly ever gets games is fun and balanced. The idea that it is a balanced bracket compared to ANY other bracket is a punch to the groin of sanity and reason.

 

[threesets]

actually it is not....every healing spec is viable, and all dps specs are closer ,in terms of actually damage out put, than any other bracket

 

[coolbank]

i could probably do this i have 3 one rings already lol
was looking for a change besides the 19 and 70 brackets

 

[Wafflecakes]

actually it is not....every healing spec is viable, and all dps specs are closer ,in terms of actually damage out put, than any other bracket

Not a chance in hell.

Plus why would a bracket that doesn't get games be the "ideal bracket to reroll in?" I also am very skeptical of your claims about the bracket booming. My main realm is medivh and the number of 10's there have plunged.

Lets call it how it is. You love the bracket and are therefor stanning for it. It wouldn't matter whether it was the worst bracket or the best you are obviously invested in its future.



Edit: Sorry if I am coming off a bit strong. Just dissapointed with the overall quality of blogs being posted. A whole lot of peopel advertising brackets/realms/guilds that they like with no real rational basis (and sometimes downright decietful like your advertising a bracket that does not get, and probably never will get, regular pops).

 

[youakim]

I'm wondering how a dead bracket could be the ideal twink pvp experience

 

[threesets]

Not a chance in hell.

example?

O and I didn't advertise a guild, hence me not even in BOF nor BON

Still cannot deny that it is the most balanced bracket in terms of pvp

It doesn't pop regularly, but only 70s, 19s, 20-24s, and 80s pop regularly, don't act like every single bracket except 10s are active. considering people qq about the 70s, 19s, 80s, and 20s, are UNFAIR and not fun to play, how are they the most ideal bracket?

I am stating my case, and you can state yours.

Also regular games do not pop because big name people including bamf and heals have not been active, bringing down the activity of some of the older members of the bracket

 

[Wafflecakes]

example?

O and I didn't advertise a guild, hence me not even in BOF nor BON

Still cannot deny that it is the most balanced bracket in terms of pvp

I honestly haven't played the bracket in years so maybe you are right. Still skeptical though simply because how do you KNOW what the balance is unless you have enough games to get a wide sample? Your perception of an underpower class could be massively wrong just because the one person who plays it regularly in the bracket is a boss and an OP class could be downplayed because the person playing it sucks. Thats what happens when you have such a tiny active community/

It doesn't pop regularly, but only 70s, 19s, 20-24s, and 80s pop regularly, don't act like every single bracket except 10s are active. considering people qq about the 70s, 19s, 80s, and 20s, are UNFAIR and not fun to play, how are they the most ideal bracket?

I never claimed one was ideal. I think the idea of an idea bracket is BS in the first place. The reasons people QQ about the brackets you mentioned as active is because they ACTUALLY GET GAMES AND HAVE ACTUAL COMPLAINTS TO QQ ABOUT. I promise....if those brackets died the amount of QQ goes down dramatically. Who cares if mages are OP if you have no games?

I am stating my case, and you can state yours.

Also regular games do not pop because big name people including bamf and heals have not been active, bringing down the activity of some of the older members of the bracket

Be that as it may its still disengenous to treat a bracket with no games as a bracket other people should be interested in.

Put my response in your post. Easier.

 

[threesets]

except that on medivh I have personally seen the shear damage output of every single class, and there is no class who can't keep up with the others, and there is no class who is too far ahead. There have been plenty of wargames (arenas) to base this off of. arenas are a more reliable source of the balance of diff classes, than a bg imo. As in a bg, sitting back and seeing the damage of people who don't even focus targets, or only go for top damage, is not an accurate view of how each class competes. Where as in wargames, it really shows when a specific class cannot kill a healer, or a specific healing spec cannot keep him or his team up, thru another class's dps. However this is not the case, each spec and each class is viable in a heated arena setting, and comparable to other classes and specs.

 

[Sponsor]

I play too much on my lvl 10 warrior, I tried it for shear curiosity and I got hooked up to it.

When people see me sitting around on my turtle in SW trade, they often ask me "I feel like making a 10 twink with you, what class would you recommend". And I answer them "any", because quite frankly all classes are as viable as the others if played/geared correctly. Unlike most brackets were hunters and rogues dominate the bracket.

Its been said often in this thread but I'll say it again, the most wonderful thing from 10s is that its diverse. You wont get an outrageous amount of hunters/rogues or any other "OP class" because their isn't a leading class in the food chain at lvl 10-14.

-Sponsor

 

[Shikaari]

Blog, selfishly and with complete bias, written about ones own bracket? Check
Blog that pretends to not have said bias and then ends up ONLY talking about ones own bracket? Check
Blog that has no information at all, no interest at all for 99% of community and ends up ONLY talking about the bloggers bracket? Check

Seriously? Is this what blogging on Twink Info has become? What kind of a blog is this? It's literally just Threesets trying his hardest to convince people to come to the 10s bracket without actually giving any reasons.. You can get to 10, 19, 20, 24, 29 and 39 in a day. I'm a terrible leveler and I can fake recruit a friend to 25 in maybe 1 and a half hours. From there it's an hour to 29, and 3 to 39 (for me, and I'm SLOWWW). You make zero valid points and I hope Shane looks at this blog and wonders what happened to good blogging.

 

[threesets]

its not completely bias considering I have twinked in every single bracket. currently atm I have a 49, a 80, a f2p, and 2 60s, and 5 70s....... again I made my case about this bracket... you want me to talk about other brackets?

hunters in 19s....
24s able to rape 20s.....
49 is the bustiest bracket....
frost mages, sub rogues, pallies in 60s.......
mages and priests and rogues in 70s........
frost mages in 80s........

there I talked about the other brackets, pointing out the imbalances

and actually it does have info.... shedding light on the fact that pvp is balanced....

 

[threesets]

o and the fact that going 4 levels higher than the minimum level (20-24s, 60-64s, 70-74 (in some cases), 80-84, gives you the ability to flat out destroy the people 4 levels below you. However in 10-14s, by going 14 you give up up to 30% crit, 50% haste, 30% dodge, 20% hit 9rough numbers), only to get a 2 more talent points, and maybe one extra ability. so you can give up the amazing scaling of the secondary stats, in exchange for 2 more talent points, and 1-2 extra abilities. It is a fair trade, however with 20-24s, they don't give up much of anything, to get the better gear, talents, and abilities. Same with 60-64s. Hell 64s can get a shit ton more socket gear, and 70-74s, you only give up some resil and maybe some crit/haste, and I don't need to say anything about the 80-84 bracket.

 

[Wafflecakes]

o and the fact that going 4 levels higher than the minimum level (20-24s, 60-64s, 70-74 (in some cases), 80-84, gives you the ability to flat out destroy the people 4 levels below you. However in 10-14s, by going 14 you give up up to 30% crit, 50% haste, 30% dodge, 20% hit 9rough numbers), only to get a 2 more talent points, and maybe one extra ability. so you can give up the amazing scaling of the secondary stats, in exchange for 2 more talent points, and 1-2 extra abilities. It is a fair trade, however with 20-24s, they don't give up much of anything, to get the better gear, talents, and abilities. Same with 60-64s. Hell 64s can get a shit ton more socket gear, and 70-74s, you only give up some resil and maybe some crit/haste, and I don't need to say anything about the 80-84 bracket.

You obviously haven't played the 70's bracket if you think 74's destroy them lol. Glad you parade your ignorance while propping up your own bracket.

(70's are similar to 10's in scaling. 74 BiS in generally the same as 70 BiS so they lose a LOT of stats in lvling. Usually about 20-35%. Pretty much putting them on equal terms with the 70's. The few classes that are OP at 74 are generally classes that aren't great in the bracket to begin with like hunters, druids, and Enh Shamans....which actually makes the bracket more balanced)