The Future of the 19 Bracket

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So as the title says, What is going to happen to the 19 bracket.



Havn't played in like 3 months and when I came back today, it was disappointing to see things havn't changed.

From what people have said in BG's and the 100 pages of threads I've read, Games are still Alliance VS. WT



So, my question.....everyone is complaining about WT (mainly Pizza). I dont see what the difference is if TI has 2 or 20 threads discussing his decision to GY Camp (not that I argee with him, I think it's f'ing annoying and he is the Cancer of this bracket).



So to rid this Cancer and in attempt to fix the bracket, could the active twinks plz post some relevant ideas that might help the bracket???? (Please kept it mature and proactive)



Personal Note: Had fun today. Won my first game and was feeling great and thought WT had reduced activity. Next 5 games were 5 man WT premades, 7 minutes, 3-0 games. Cheers

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:) . (They didn't GY camp, just roamed mid and killed us all there). Give them one thing, they bez consistent
 
An idea I was thinking of was that the community should make guilds reduce the amount of people they queue up with together, on a day to day basis, to three (3). Premades should be kept as premades which are 10 man, and the 5-6 man pugs everyday are destroying other people who don't have a guild to queue up with. Like you said, WT queues with like 5-7 people and it's nigh impossible to beat them. Funnily enough we beat a 6 man LSFTW team yesterday/
 
wanna fix it? all alliance chars get the charged crystal focus, and just sit in every game and turtle, they will come to your base and attempt to kill you, this is because they want rep and Hk's. eventually they will get tired of it and might play on a far more respectable level. until then fight fire with fire. they are doing something that many agree is unacceptable in the bracket. do it back. i used to love 19's, however i can never play them again due to the problems that arise from such elitist behavior. well ill go back to the 10-14 forum until someone wants to join in on a balanced bracket. till then good luck 19's! you need it
 
First of, Iam one of those who que without guildies, and i honestly dont understand what the QQ is about?

I got about as many wins as lost in WSG, and 5-0 in AB.

The only thing that really messes the bg's up except those Frenchies like Isa and his grp, is the Satchel loot gear, IF ppls are using it (havent qued after the GF)

I haven't seen too much of the gy farming actually...



Less qq more pew pew!
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Heädströng said:
wanna fix it? all alliance chars get the charged crystal focus, and just sit in every game and turtle, they will come to your base and attempt to kill you, this is because they want rep and Hk's. eventually they will get tired of it and might play on a far more respectable level. until then fight fire with fire. they are doing something that many agree is unacceptable in the bracket. do it back. i used to love 19's, however i can never play them again due to the problems that arise from such elitist behavior. well ill go back to the 10-14 forum until someone wants to join in on a balanced bracket. till then good luck 19's! you need it
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Is 10-14 balanced? and how often does bg's pop?
 
oh >.< you are European? then i think dunemaul is. i myself play US however not sure if there is any activity for EU. best get in touch with stunggix on here and ask him. he is the 10 twink veteran of EU
 
Bullzinglól said:
First of, Iam one of those who que without guildies, and i honestly dont understand what the QQ is about?

I got about as many wins as lost in WSG, and 5-0 in AB.

The only thing that really messes the bg's up except those Frenchies like Isa and his grp, is the Satchel loot gear, IF ppls are using it (havent qued after the GF)

I haven't seen too much of the gy farming actually...



Less qq more pew pew!
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Yeah if you played US, you would understand. The average alliance player who does not queue with guilds has an average 1:2 win to loss ratio or very close to it. And GY farming is very popular in US, especially if it's WT.
 
Snèaky said:
An idea I was thinking of was that the community should make guilds reduce the amount of people they queue up with together, on a day to day basis, to three (3). Premades should be kept as premades which are 10 man, and the 5-6 man pugs everyday are destroying other people who don't have a guild to queue up with. Like you said, WT queues with like 5-7 people and it's nigh impossible to beat them. Funnily enough we beat a 6 man LSFTW team yesterday/
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and how is the community to make guilds reduce the number they queue with?
 
Sorry, but what is WT and who is Pizza, I have been gone for quite a while excuce my ignorance...
 
Dorigon said:
and how is the community to make guilds reduce the number they queue with?
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The same way premades are basically forced to follow the community guidlines. (i.e.: No more than 2 stealthies, etc.). Also, many GM's are supposedly active in the participation of bettering the community - this being said, they should try to implement it if it ever got to that stage.
 
i see wat ur saying but its wrong



premades r agreements between 2 parties, so if they want to face each other, they have to agree to the conditions



pug's are a free for all - u don't have to agree to any condition to q up
 
I have played with Pizza (PUGs) and against Pizza (PUGs). Either way it's a business and WT (Waw Tawent) is there to win.



Pretty much from what I see, WT is the Bar - and everyone else is trying to reach it. I will (and I am certain that WT will) applaud the premade that manages to beat WT.
 
Ioerror said:
I have played with Pizza (PUGs) and against Pizza (PUGs). Either way it's a business and WT (Waw Tawent) is there to win.



Pretty much from what I see, WT is the Bar - and everyone else is trying to reach it. I will (and I am certain that WT will) applaud the premade that manages to beat WT.
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this isnt about WT and it's premading history, tis about pizza wanting his damn title.
 
From my experience WT often solo queues, its just that there are so many of them they often get into alot of the same games.



And with the rID queue system this shouldn't be an issue, if you're getting rolled make some friends and play with them.
 
Dorigon said:
i see wat ur saying but its wrong



premades r agreements between 2 parties, so if they want to face each other, they have to agree to the conditions



pug's are a free for all - u don't have to agree to any condition to q up
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I see. I agree now.





this isnt about WT and it's premading history, tis about pizza wanting his damn title.
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This.
 
Snèaky said:
Yeah if you played US, you would understand. The average alliance player who does not queue with guilds has an average 1:2 win to loss ratio or very close to it. And GY farming is very popular in US, especially if it's WT.
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I'm 469-392 which isn't very close to a 1:2 win to loss ratio and I don't afk. I don't group Q either and I would say I'm pretty average. But group queues have always been in this bracket and it is still active.
 
Well Pizza is trying to get his title and if I was that close I might gy farm for a bit. I'll be 100% honest. I'm hoping it will reduce when he gets it, of course Waw Tawent is there to win, who WANTS to lose? I generally don't AFK, unless im being GY farmed for 20 minutes. Its very simple, if you don't rez they will finish capping because they won't be getting kills.



As for the "turtle" strategy suggested by Headstrong above, we have done this several times, they generally can push us back anyway, it works for maybe the first wave sadly.
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