The final end to 80 PvP?

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So i checked PTR to see the new resil changes and this is what i've found
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The top Resil is live and the bottom is PTR.
If this goes live it will be the final marker for 80 PvP i think..
(dunno how to make the image bigger in thread cos i'm a noob:<)
EDIT : just wanted to add that this char is full pvp except 5 409s and 1 277 trinket (which is the ideal gear setup)
 
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Simple said:
So i checked PTR to see the new resil changes and this is what i've found
View attachment 1828
The top Resil is live and the bottom is PTR.
If this goes live it will be the final marker for 80 PvP i think..
(dunno how to make the image bigger in thread cos i'm a noob:<)
EDIT : just wanted to add that this char is full pvp except 5 409s and 1 277 trinket (which is the ideal gear setup)
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Why would this be the end? This is a good change, not a bad one. This means that you can no longer have people sitting at 80% resillience and never dying anymore. Also, in BG's we're getting scaled to 84 anyways, so this resilience is only for in duels/arena's/world PvP. Lvl 80's are way too overpowerd, a little less is better.
 
Whatgoesup said:
Why would this be the end? This is a good change, not a bad one. This means that you can no longer have people sitting at 80% resillience and never dying anymore. Also, in BG's we're getting scaled to 84 anyways, so this resilience is only for in duels/arena's/world PvP. Lvl 80's are way too overpowerd, a little less is better.
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you clearly haven't done some serious 80 pvp, without the 90%+ resil you get 1 SHOT so no this is another move to drive twinks out of the game.
 
Whatgoesup said:
Why would this be the end? This is a good change, not a bad one. This means that you can no longer have people sitting at 80% resillience and never dying anymore. Also, in BG's we're getting scaled to 84 anyways, so this resilience is only for in duels/arena's/world PvP. Lvl 80's are way too overpowerd, a little less is better.
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Bg means nothing. I'm not sure if you realise this but, less resil is more damage meaning 80 will have even more 1shots and be much more overpowered. And by the way, resil cap without the prismatic elixir is around 77%, my pala with that, still gets 2shot by rogues. It's almost like you've never played 80 arena before.
 
Xipelol said:
you clearly haven't done some serious 80 pvp, without the 90%+ resil you get 1 SHOT so no this is another move to drive twinks out of the game.
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I have done a lot of PvP, I've gone to Pandaria and I've killed hundreds of 85-90's easily. I did this with basicly reforging shit loads to expertise and hit, very little PvP gear and I still didn't die. Also, I have about 65% resilience, and I don't die fast, not at all. I've done my fair share of arena's and BG's. Reducing PvP resillience with a few % isn't that bad... It makes it just more challenging
 
Simple said:
Bg means nothing. I'm not sure if you realise this but, less resil is more damage meaning 80 will have even more 1shots and be much more overpowered. And by the way, resil cap without the prismatic elixir is around 77%, my pala with that, still gets 2shot by rogues. It's almost like you've never played 80 arena before.
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I don't see how all af you are getting one-shot all the time. I never get one-shot, not in duels, not in arena's, not in BG's, never. And if you get 2shot by a rogue on a paladin with 77% resillience, you're doing something wrong.
 
Simple said:
/facepalm have you played vs any 2k mmr team at all?
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Yes, yes I have. Never faced 2kmmr Rogue's tho, but I have dueled several quite skilled ones. Anyways, I'm getting a fibe here that this is going to derail into some flaming war, this all is imo, and all opinions differ :)
 
" but I have dueled several quite skilled ones" View attachment 1831

No mage or rogue is skilled. press 5 buttons and you are dead.
 
Whatgoesup said:
I don't see how all af you are getting one-shot all the time. I never get one-shot, not in duels, not in arena's, not in BG's, never. And if you get 2shot by a rogue on a paladin with 77% resillience, you're doing something wrong.
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I did some 80s 2v2 last week. Got literally 1shot before I could bubble by a ret/elemental team whilst I was wearing 1960 resilience (79% on live), as holy. Either 409s need to go, or the bracket will be a complete waste of time.

Hiding behind the fact that some classes can't oneshot isn't the right approach here at all.

However, what's happening on the PTR is the direct result of the resilience DR formula changing thanks to what's happening at max level. This is a decent change for 70s, but not 80s or 85s.
 
Splosion said:
I did some 80s 2v2 last week. Got literally 1shot before I could bubble by a ret/elemental team whilst I was wearing 1960 resilience (79% on live), as holy. Either 409s need to go, or the bracket will be a complete waste of time.

Hiding behind the fact that some classes can't oneshot isn't the right approach here at all.

However, what's happening on the PTR is the direct result of the resilience DR formula changing thanks to what's happening at max level. This is a decent change for 70s, but not 80s or 85s.
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I guess I've just never had the "one-shot experience" like you have had. I do agree that 409's have to go tho, but they won't go. But, PTR is still PTR. We'll have to see what will exactly happen when it's live.
 
Anyone got any more info on exactly what is going to happen in 5.3? Does the lvl 80 pvp gear lose resilience?
And why would this be the end of 80 pvp? If lvl 80s don't get the base 65 resil then it will be exactly as it is right now (assuming we will retain the resil on gear)
That being said, right now it's sh1t...



edit: grammar...
 
Juliye said:
65% base resi was only for endgame as far as Im aware. Others Will remain 40%
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It was mentioned about a week ago on the MMO-C front page that it would affect levels 85+

godroad said:
Anyone got any more info on exactly what is going to happen in 5.3? Does the lvl 80 pvp gear lose resilience?
And why would this be the end of 80 pvp? If lvl 80s don't get the base 65 resil then it will be exactly as it is right now (assuming we will retain the resil on gear)
That being said, right now it's sh1t...
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If the Resilience changes go to what they are on PTR, just go full PvE gear and zerg everything down in arenas or BGs, whichever you play. THe bracket is already explosively bursty and has little to no balance around outplaying people anymore, so I'd either go complete zergmode, or just stop playing.

I personally only play on the Arena-tournament realm for level 80 PvP anymore, live just doesn't work because of the 409s.
 
Vanessá said:
" but I have dueled several quite skilled ones" View attachment 1831

No mage or rogue is skilled. press 5 buttons and you are dead.
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you are an incredible retard,
@thread: yes, even more burst so we can all create rogues.. the rogue with first hit will win = balance
 
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