EU+US The 20/29 Tiers imo

[Druiddroid]

It's not a theory dude. Mob mentality is totally a thing. What a proper tier list, not one based on opinion (which you've stated yours is; I'm not bashing you, just giving advice) is gather up input from top players in their respective specs, compile game stats, then rank classes in tiers based on those stats. Within the tiers, highlight the strengths and weaknesses pointed out by the exp'd players. As it is now, a lot of your sections are straight opinion with little backing info. Cite sources if you've used them, cite players you've talked to, etc. Or don't, it's your list.

lmao the title says "imo"

make your own list don't be a snob

 

[Fiur]

lmao the title says "imo"

make your own list don't be a snob

Giving advice isn't being a snob? I'm not raging at him to take it down or trash talking it, just giving constructive criticism? And thus far we've had civil back and forth.

 

[Druiddroid]

Giving advice isn't being a snob?

sure it can, your advice is to give a college report on the 20-29 bracket. ain't no one got time to compile a shitton of data and use the scientific method for a tier list

 

[Mom]

Giving advice isn't being a snob? I'm not raging at him to take it down or trash talking it, just giving constructive criticism? And thus far we've had civil back and forth.

Not a 'him' but you were close. Thanks for the advice but I feel I have a general enough idea of how this game works. I would love to see yours, or anybody's for that matter, opinion on the current tiers.

 

[Trialkiller]

People should play what they enjoy playing, if they're playing something because it's OP they're just another FotM. Just don't fuel the fire of their ego / motive to play it.

And don't give in to the urges of FotM

 

[Trialmop]

Could people start saying list for bracket (battlegrounds or Arenas) im assuming your talking about bgs.

 

[Fiur]

sure it can, your advice is to give a college report on the 20-29 bracket. ain't no one got time to compile a shitton of data and use the scientific method for a tier list

Then why make a tier list period? It'd be like making a level 29, turning off exp, then doing arenas in whatever quest gear you happened to have on. Sure you can do it, but why only go half way? If you had the time to start the list, take some time to finish it.

Not a 'him' but you were close. Thanks for the advice but I feel I have a general enough idea of how this game works. I would love to see yours, or anybody's for that matter, opinion on the current tiers.

Meh, everyone's a him on the internet, my bad. And I'd love to assist with compiling one, I just don't have the time to create and moderate one. I'm lucky if I get a bg twice a week. As a rough list, I agree with yours in most regards. I think you have a bit too many tier 1s, namely the two hunter specs & ret. High damage, low survivability is a rough tradeoff when the other tier 1 damage dealers are survival gods as well as canons. I'd say fury and destruction could probably safely sit in tier two, as other specialized "ideal situation" damage dealers are located there already.

 

[Druiddroid]

Then why make a tier list period?

I would not have a beer with you

 

[Allybeboba]

Describe players like me please, I'm curious.

You are wasting your time calling people out on XPoff. Many, not all, will just ignore questions they are unable to answer.
Calling these people out is how I soared to the top of the "most hated" list. That, and being articulate.

Cheerio

 

[Allybeboba]

I would not have a beer with you

Mmmmm root beer...

 

[Zelpher]

Describe players like me please, I'm curious.

I have utility with dispell and sprint.
I have the best burst healing which is needed for FC healing.
I have 2 outs.....bubble and trinket.
I have the most melee damage reduction as a healer, and also SP reduction spell.
Are you curious?

 

[Mom]

I have utility with dispell and sprint.
I have the best burst healing which is needed for FC healing.
I have 2 outs.....bubble and trinket.
I have the most melee damage reduction as a healer, and also SP reduction spell.
Are you curious?

Oops, looks like you accidentally picked the wrong quote, because this has nothing to do with describing a player like me.

 

[Jetlife]

WW is def not tier 1. They are a 1 trick pony for the most part and if u can get past the fof they are squish and the touch of karma is so obvious that any player who knows how to play will instantly stop attacking them.

i wish you were right. Too bad the ladders show otherwise

would truly adore the diversity of the bracket if WW wasn't god tier alongside BM monk.

ret simply put actually can't do anything WW does better than WW, outside of cast a ranged slowing spell via Glyph of Judgement slow & heals/defensives are generally a bit stronger than what WW has..

the atrociously low cd offensive edge from FoF pretty much has WW with an advantage over every team right now, thats why everyone runs with them in arena.

 

[Allybeboba]

Mob mentality is totally a thing.

This 100% verifiable correct.
My daughter did a study for her dissertation on a few websites. One of which is well known by the posters on this website. That indicated how some people can be easily be manipulated into the herd mentality way of thinking. It was quite an interesting study in the human condition I might add.

 

[Livingforce]

WW is definitely tier 1, the abilities you mentioned for ret being good WW has bigger and better of. Karma is just a little less potent than bubble.

Some of this is okay but a lot of common misconceptions that much of the bracket makes are displayed here.

WW is def not tier 1. They are a 1 trick pony for the most part and if u can get past the fof they are squish and the touch of karma is so obvious that any player who knows how to play will instantly stop attacking them.

They're about as squishy as a ret pally with no CD's, just have more mobility with double roll / movement increasing tier 1 talents almost the same as ret pally with a twist, as well as their flying dragon kick. I really don't understand whether you're considering the balance in this list off how each performs in just BG's or what but WW counters ret even in 1v1 and especially in arena. It's a god tier comp to run with a WW right now and if you look at the ladders you'll see that.

Plus WW isn't nearly as squishy as something like a shadow priest that you have on tier 1...

Just my 2 cent on it. Its depending how you look at it. In pugs WW definitely have the potential to be tier one.

But in premades I would rate them tier 2/3. Reason being, is it would be a mid fight and allot of the classes stop the WW from utilizing its class to its full potential. I mean yes it can pull of some things but if a premade team knows how to counter it, then that class is not as useful.

It also depends on the BG you're talking about, from what I said above was for WSG specifically.

I could go into it allot more, but I will leave it out.