Take the best out of your Sap

Rayu

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    • I've been doing some research in the Garrote ability for rogues lately and discovered that the only reason it instantly breaks Sap is that it turns on your auto-attack. In other words - if you Garrote and don't do anything after, your opponent will stay sapped for 3 seconds (after 3 seconds it ticks).



    A simple macro should give you an extra 3 seconds to regenerate energy 1v1 or maybe even re-Stealth if you use Shadowmeld as a night elf and have your Stealth CD reduced to 4 seconds (talent):

    Code: 
    #show Garrote

/cast Garrote

/stopattack
    I haven't tried it yet, so not sure it really works, but I'm pretty sure. Will update you asap. =]
     
    It is a bummer, what I've learned to do is angle myself right, so sap > wait till full energy then do a 90 angle then garrote them, this way your auto attack doesn't hit them and you have 2-3 secs to regen energy / do other stuff lol. The same method works for sap > garrote > backstab, its just wall about angling yourself right and getting the timings. Hope it helps.



    Kítty
     
    Kítty said:
    what I've learned to do is angle myself right, so sap > wait till full energy then do a 90 angle then garrote them, this way your auto attack doesn't hit them

    Kítty
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    That's not true, and fyi I gave you a solution that is better/easier anyway.
     
    Rayu said:
    That's not true, and fyi I gave you a solution that is better/easier anyway.
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    Uhm what he said is in fact true - I've been using that since vanilla on my rogue. It's quite possible the oldest trick in the rogue book; combo point building on a sapped target with cheapshot.



    The thing with /stopattack is that it isn't always working due to lag and what have you - some times an auto attack will slip through, where as with the angle/ rapid turn methods you wont.
     
    Patrick said:
    Uhm what he said is in fact true - I've been using that since vanilla on my rogue. It's quite possible the oldest trick in the rogue book; combo point building on a sapped target with cheapshot.



    The thing with /stopattack is that it isn't always working due to lag and what have you - some times an auto attack will slip through, where as with the angle/ rapid turn methods you wont.
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    You're adding the 'rapid turn'. I hope you agree that just garroting from the right angle won't make you not hit with your auto-attacks.



    I have a constant latency of under 15ms... that should do right?
     
    Rayu said:
    I have a constant latency of under 15ms... that should do right?
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    Maybe - but I wouldn't count on it, rather than sending the entire macro at one your client sends the each line one after the other after evaluating them - even with sub 20ms latency I've been stunned between natures swiftness and healing wave in a two line macro :| resulting in me being stunned to death while having the NS buff -.-'



    anyway - try it, if it works all the more power to you. of course you'd have a macro hot key'ed that is only really usefull in 1v1 situations
     
    it's an old trick and it works well. i prefer the "non macro" method as it is more reliable but it does require a little more practise.
     
    I made that kind of marco awhile ago, but as someone else said it dosn't work all the time. the angel/turning away thing works much much better
     
    I'd like to know if it works, once 3.2 hits I'm making a rogue with this 19 half assed "twink" I have.
     
    Frosty said:
    I'd like to know if it works, once 3.2 hits I'm making a rogue with this 19 half assed "twink" I have.
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    The macro has worked for me one time and one time only. You can in fact angle your body so that u can garrote without auto attacking them and ppl have been doin that since the beginning of time
     
    [video=youtube;uokbqCLghbs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uokbqCLghbs[/video]



    Thanks for replies all. =]
     
    Rayu said:
    That's not true, and fyi I gave you a solution that is better/easier anyway.
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    It is true but I find your way doesn't work but then I guess it varies on the person, I got use to angles so I prefer not to use a macro but thanks anyways.



    Kítty
     
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