Streaming some 2v2

_Arkant_ said:
No, you shouldn't if you don't have to. You lose 1 GCD by doing so.
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this is very true, its way better to cast a 1.3sec flash heal than an instant 1k shield....
 
The discussion is mute, was playing on a non-geared priest. 800 shields, 1.5 sec heals - and I'm horrible on the char since I hadn't played it since like early wotlk.

So I'm aware of how shitty it was.

Wasn't supposed to be playing, just streaming some TL arena - but it was all in the name of good fun so I don't really mind :)
 
Trialdruid said:
wtf happent yesterday? I thought you were going to queue us up for that 3vs3
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we spent 1½ hour trying to get it to work yesterday. our conclusion 3>2 and therefore you'll get ported to AA, let's see if you understand that :eek:

and I rather want a shield vs a feral as a mage
 
_Arkant_ said:
I didn't change any grammar, I added "and a 1k shield" ? Did you even read it..
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i try not to read any of the crap you write. it's normally wrong as above
 
_Arkant_ said:
I was clearly right since flash heal + shield > shield. But why am I even trying to teach you.
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no ill teach you son, it goes pw:s>FH/pen. because while your casting your team mate could die so you throw the instant first. then heal him to full, and while you're casting the weakened soul debuff is getting shorter.

you're welcome!
 
The Saint said:
no ill teach you son, it goes pw:s>FH/pen. because while your casting your team mate could die so you throw the instant first. then heal him to full, and while you're casting the weakened soul debuff is getting shorter.

you're welcome!
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As I said, you cast the heal first unless your target might die during the cast time. This way you get your heal + shield off in 1.5 seconds while you casting shield first would result in 3 seconds total.
PM me for more lessons.
 
_Arkant_ said:
As I said, you cast the heal first unless your target might die during the cast time. This way you get your heal + shield off in 1.5 seconds while you casting shield first would result in 3 seconds total.
PM me for more lessons.
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no, you didnt say anything about what health your target was at, you just said heal 1st shield after. now i've learnt what to do in that situation i can sleep easy :) .

edit: im just about to login, im on reds real id if you need more wisdom from Mr. Saint
 
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I thought an intelligent person like you could figure out what "Don't shield first if you don't have to" means. Apparently if your target might die while you cast your heal you "have to" shield first.
 
_Arkant_ said:
No, you shouldn't if you don't have to. You lose 1 GCD by doing so.
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Ok, sure i agree with you when there is no pressure you can save a GCD. Considering there is also no spellbreaking class around, you could flashheal first! But to point out, when there is no pressure, it doesnt even matter what you do first ;-).

But in this case vs feral + monk in arena you should go for shield cause of the well known burst.
Watch the stream and count how often vianco died cause jaxel tried to flashheal while he should have used shield.

But hey, since your way of argueing is famous on TI, im sure you just refered to the word "always" so maybe my explanation isnt interesting for you ;-)
 
Donni said:
Watch the stream and count how often vianco died cause jaxel tried to flashheal while he should have used shield.
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Quite often. I do wonder though if shielding him first vs this type of dmg would've even mattered.

If you watched the entire stream you'd see some times where I just get dropped in an untrinkable monk stun - just from pure dmg. I have low hp on that old char though :>
 
but in the end none of this matter cause feral 1200(+150 rake 350 mangle) crit and monk 500(x2), but yes as jaxel said, he haden't played that char forever and that clearly had an impact, nevertheless it was good to get some games rolling
 
lindenkron said:
Quite often. I do wonder though if shielding him first vs this type of dmg would've even mattered.

If you watched the entire stream you'd see some times where I just get dropped in an untrinkable monk stun - just from pure dmg. I have low hp on that old char though :>
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Yes. Dont get me wrong, i didnt want to offend you in any way. It isn´t fun to play vs. this combo and yes, shielding before may wouldnt change that much in this case.
Just something i noticed. Case closed for me now ;-). Hope you will stream again.
 
Donni said:
Yes. Dont get me wrong, i didnt want to offend you in any way. It isn´t fun to play vs. this combo and yes, shielding before may wouldnt change that much in this case.
Just something i noticed. Case closed for me now ;-). Hope you will stream again.
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We're planning on streaming some 3v3 with a proper "tournament" interface at some point. Just need to do some testing to see how it looks :)

I know you didn't say anything to offend me lol, I could clearly see when I did something wrong myself. I also get majorly annoyed by screen tearing when stream is on for some reason. Gonna see if Vertical sync removes it during streaming next time. Normally play without it :)

Check in later for more streams hopefully!

I might create a new thread since the name of this one is kinda misleading :>
 
_Arkant_ said:
I thought an intelligent person like you could figure out what "Don't shield first if you don't have to" means. Apparently if your target might die while you cast your heal you "have to" shield first.
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and i thought an intelligent person could figure out not to put the shield up unless you have to because you debuff your target against the strongest ability a Dpriest has. shows you how wrong we can be, dunnit?
 
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