SOLUTIONS to fix the faction imbalance in this bracket

[Atychiphobia]

yep, suggestion #1 in the original post. i'm glad you guys agree. if you agreed with it, why didn't you just post that in the first place, instead of starting another pointless argument?



in an ideal world, we could implement #1 and this problem would gradually solve itself. all it would take is 5 minutes of a mod's time. hell, make me a mod, i'll make the sticky, and then you can take it away again.

Yeah sure I will try out horde but this alliance will always be my f2p main, sorry. I was the first on the whole server to ding lvl 20 with the purpose of f2p twinking so I actually got an arguement why I am alliance. I will make a mage probably.

 

[thurghul]

Easiest solution is for Blizzard to put in a quest for the Horde with a comparable Eye Patch award.



That eye patch is better than a BOA helm for leather wearers, even mail wearers at that level.



Yes, its that big of a deal.

 

[allahkazam]

if they won't balance low level pvp, they won't balance in game quests for xp off or trial capped players. i wish they would but there is no chance they will.

 

[Kipale]

20 bracket ruined already, move along.

 

[Wilwayco]

yep, suggestion #1 in the original post. i'm glad you guys agree. if you agreed with it, why didn't you just post that in the first place, instead of starting another pointless argument?



in an ideal world, we could implement #1 and this problem would gradually solve itself. all it would take is 5 minutes of a mod's time. hell, make me a mod, i'll make the sticky, and then you can take it away again.

Who was arguing

 

[Mercami]

I think one of the best solutions would be for Blizzard to add the stockades quests to horde side. There could be a stealthed rouge npc at the start with quests to free horde prisoners that would be trapped behind the bosses. It would be nice if they also made sure both sides can get equal quest gear, but I think that might be a bit too much to hope for. Lastly if they would just raise the trial cap to 24 it would also help our bracket.



Simple and easy but the chances of Blizzard doing it seems unlikely.

 

[Jeralulz]

I think one of the best solutions would be for Blizzard to add the stockades quests to horde side. There could be a stealthed rouge npc at the start with quests to free horde prisoners that would be trapped behind the bosses. It would be nice if they also made sure both sides can get equal quest gear, but I think that might be a bit too much to hope for. Lastly if they would just raise the trial cap to 24 it would also help our bracket.



Simple and easy but the chances of Blizzard doing it seems unlikely.

Moar like freeing Hogger after you nearly killed him . So that he can annoy lowbies again .

 

[Pookums]

http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/free-play/24117-sake-faction-balance.html



If I did it, anyone can. I spent a LOT of time on this guy, it was I believe 50 runs in SFK just to get the bracers.

 

[Hardc0re]

If you think you are losing games because of an eyepatch, you guys need to wake up, really.

 

[earthpig]

so far there have been:



0 (zero) other suggestions



6 (six) posts that have done nothing but flame each other



seriously, guys. come on. you want to help this bracket or not?

Then you either missed my post offering what I am actually doing to address the problem, or believe it to have null effect but chose not to explain why you believe that to be the case.



In addition to rolling a horde toon if you feel like it, roll a horde tank and use it once a day to decrease Horde PvE q times thus encouraging more horde to get geared.

 

[yasueh]

If you think you are losing games because of an eyepatch, you guys need to wake up, really.

It's not just that the item is slightly over powered. It's because it's an overpowered item that is usable by the most OP classes in the bracket, and people going BiS (including their character slot) will need to go Alliance hunter to do that.



It contributes to both class and faction imbalance.

 

[Parfait]

We need less alliance hunters and paladins. So rolling other alliance classes to cut down the % of those in BGs would be better. Having more horde won't help us win unless we play the "who can have more hunters" game.

 

[Hardc0re]

It's not just that the item is slightly over powered. It's because it's an overpowered item that is usable by the most OP classes in the bracket, and people going BiS (including their character slot) will need to go Alliance hunter to do that.



It contributes to both class and faction imbalance.

Yes, it's exactely what I said in other post. But a hunter in horde will be as OP as a hunter in alliance, even without the eyepatch.

The only solution to the problem is: roll a goddamn horde!

but since ppl won't do that, it'll eventually come to a "horde, roll hunters" petition lol, it's the only way I can see we winning more...

 

[Jdoring]

Earthpig is most likely right, why wait 10 minutes to do a dungeon (and get gear) when you can wait 1-2 for a BG? It makes sense to the new WoW player to go to the BG so he can have more fun quicker than waiting for a dungeon, shortly thereafter he realizes he hates dying constantly in BG's and could ultimately just stop playing altogether, i think our only solution is to roll horde which i will be doing tomorrow, sorry it took so long

 

[Atychiphobia]

We need less alliance hunters and paladins. So rolling other alliance classes to cut down the % of those in BGs would be better. Having more horde won't help us win unless we play the "who can have more hunters" game.

Another point of view yes. But guys, we are a small % of a big playerbase in 20-24 bracket. Do only way to fix this is... TIME. Then it will be better or even worse, who knows.

 

[thurghul]

If you think you are losing games because of an eyepatch, you guys need to wake up, really.

Nobody stated people are losing because of the eyepatch, people are saying its one of the CAUSES OF THE IMBALANCE (ie, alliance outnumbering Horde)

 

[Pookums]

In addition to rolling a horde toon if you feel like it, roll a horde tank and use it once a day to decrease Horde PvE q times thus encouraging more horde to get geared.

Leveling a BE prot warrior atm, for the lulz I may even PvP with him =D

 

[C O T U S]

guys, while i agree that the eye patch and other superior alliance-only gear is indeed *one* of the *causes* of this problem, we're not here to debate the causes. we're here to come up with solutions.



crossing our fingers and praying that activision is going to magically fix all low-level quests to be faction balanced is unfortunately not a reasonable solution. we have zero control over that series of events happening.



so far in the thread, it appears that the *general* consensus is that we should concentrate on getting more people to roll horde twinks. i personally agree with this.



as far as the people concerned that the faction imbalance is going to do a 180 because of this - i do not think that argument holds any merit. as several people have already pointed out, including myself, the same kind of people who roll alliance hunters, rogues, paladins, etc are going to keep rolling these classes in great numbers no matter how many of us make twinks on horde.



i wouldn't even necessarily be adverse to this ENTIRE COMMUNITY going horde, and all uniting against the scrubby alliance masses who plague this bracket. it's not like it would be unfair - i've lost plenty of games as horde when we have group queued up and simply not been able to stand against the masses of faceroll hunters, rogues, and paladins.

 

[Parfait]

Real solution is to get P2P players to schedule War Games.

 

[C O T U S]

i already have access to a p2p account, and i've already posted on this forum an easy way for any of you guys to get one, too. (didn't get sticked, bumped, already probably on page 30).



#3 of my suggestions on my original post has already been criticized by several people in this thread because "nobody wants to schedule things" and "people aren't going to play when you want them to" and "i don't want to be told when i should be playing what".



i'm ready and willing to organize arenas and wargames at any time, and i know several other people that are as well. the problem is not the lack of organization - the problem is the laziness and complete lack of commitment from the rest of the twinks in this community.