Dagamela
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Dumb asf if you're implying wow pvp isn't competitive
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Dumb asf if you're implying wow pvp isn't competitive
Bestworld
MBA
I would probably look at the higher level brackets where people will have all their slots filled out by default. People will also naturally be a tiny bit better. So overall game experience should be better at those stages. As for overall competitiveness, I wouldn't count on much.
I've only been spamming 19's, and a very few 70's games. However, since 19's has a longer history of competitive players, you will still find the few people that are still playing and get that 1-2 competitive game pr. day (if you're spam q'ing noon till evening), but it's rare and varies a lot. I haven't been playing much twinks overall this expansion yet, since endgame has taken quite a bit of my time.
I've only been spamming 19's, and a very few 70's games. However, since 19's has a longer history of competitive players, you will still find the few people that are still playing and get that 1-2 competitive game pr. day (if you're spam q'ing noon till evening), but it's rare and varies a lot. I haven't been playing much twinks overall this expansion yet, since endgame has taken quite a bit of my time.
Conq
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It seems like people are feeling very negative about the recent turn of events for twinks and I don't mean to over step my bounds, but they are taking it out on a wonderful admin whose hard work has been the lifeblood of this website since she joined the team, all threw her willingness to give her free time to the community, yet I understand peoples frustration. However, @Selaya in this case is not interfering with things of an emotional nature, she is doing her job by being as unbiased as possible while trying to maintain and improve the very thing it seems like people are complaining about or at the least expressing their interest in (which I hope she will continue to do) - A lack of organization and things that make this community fun and stimulating (which was mostly sponsored by guilds and streamers, in other words the high levels of community competition) now that that is gone, I think people may be reflecting and thinking about how cool all those things we did were. I suppose from a perspective it must feel like blizzard has thrown our play style to the wolves and many of the things that where happening in previous times on behalf of hardworking community members, are no longer. This in itself is something I've touched on in previous posts. The set of circumstances that kept the bracket alive was not an incredible series of coincidence that just happened to turn into some pretty heavily organized brackets, many of the people in this thread made sure they where regularly (for many months) at a scheduled place, at a scheduled time, for a specific reason, and this in regards to more than just 19s. So that brings us back to Mvq's question which I think strikes at the heart of how this negativity with a side of productivity is coming from (not in in reference to the OP, where this sentiment is in reverse)
This is not only the question everyone posting or reading should be asking themselves, this is something they should make sure they are participating in it - as they have been, or have in the past - one way or another.
There is still twink work and events being done on behalf of the likes of Livingforce, Trailmop, Manny, The NWL Admins, and others. However I think we would be fooling ourselves to think it's just event organizers who make things happen, you need guilds/teams with interest in competition, and individuals to act on that guilds behalf -bottom line, without that there would be no glory days of Wrath, Cata, MoP, or WoD, or some of the highlights from times as early as Classic, and TBC.
tldr: I have no idea where you can find these things, but its about time some new community members step up to the plate, and it's likely some folks will at some point in the relatively near future, it really depends on how many people get bored on their mains, or come back to the scene, and when, endgame is pretty enticing at the moment tho, on top of this WoW subs are looking pretty healthy at the moment. i'll continue to do my best to help bring the top twink content to the table, aside from that I can continue to attempt to recruit/build a multibracket twink team and make sure that XPOFF provides a healthy environment for the initiative and interest in itself to grow and manifest inside & outside of the game.
Btw Andreas I hope you don't think of this post as a further derailment, I perceive all the comments on this thread including your OP to be heavily related to one another. (not that you are responsible for any controversial responses), or perhaps i'm just being jaded xD
This is not only the question everyone posting or reading should be asking themselves, this is something they should make sure they are participating in it - as they have been, or have in the past - one way or another.
There is still twink work and events being done on behalf of the likes of Livingforce, Trailmop, Manny, The NWL Admins, and others. However I think we would be fooling ourselves to think it's just event organizers who make things happen, you need guilds/teams with interest in competition, and individuals to act on that guilds behalf -bottom line, without that there would be no glory days of Wrath, Cata, MoP, or WoD, or some of the highlights from times as early as Classic, and TBC.
tldr: I have no idea where you can find these things, but its about time some new community members step up to the plate, and it's likely some folks will at some point in the relatively near future, it really depends on how many people get bored on their mains, or come back to the scene, and when, endgame is pretty enticing at the moment tho, on top of this WoW subs are looking pretty healthy at the moment. i'll continue to do my best to help bring the top twink content to the table, aside from that I can continue to attempt to recruit/build a multibracket twink team and make sure that XPOFF provides a healthy environment for the initiative and interest in itself to grow and manifest inside & outside of the game.
Btw Andreas I hope you don't think of this post as a further derailment, I perceive all the comments on this thread including your OP to be heavily related to one another. (not that you are responsible for any controversial responses), or perhaps i'm just being jaded xD
farnk
Grandfathered
farnk not logged in nearly 1 month now for busy within irl and weak from sick and illness.
pls no credit farnk where farnk not deserve credit !
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Mvq
2016 TC Champion
When you wanna win a pug, the most effective way is to guide your team to victory. If you're gonna let a bad player decide whether you're gonna guide your team to victory or not then you're a pussy.
Stabilt
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sounds like somebody didnt get invited to the actual fun part of 19s!
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Mvq
2016 TC Champion
Let's be real, the ability aspect of end-game hasn't been difficult since Wrath. It's all about Communication, Synergy, positioning and such. Just like at 19s.
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Mvq
2016 TC Champion
yes because communication, synergy and positioning at 3k rating is equal to lvl 19s
Not sure what you're trying to say. That all lvl 19s have the same communication, synergy and positioning as a 3k rated end-game player? Ofc not, why would you even say that. That's an illogical point.
Selaya
Guest
Thats a bad comparison, its more like eating salad and steak, because while there is a difference in mobility, the fundamentals Mvq mentioned still hold true
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Mvq
2016 TC Champion
You say so much and say so little at the same time.
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Mvq
2016 TC Champion
The skill of eating a shit and the skill of eating a fat steak is pretty much the same, yeah.
It's not a different game, there's a reason that great 19 Twinks are great at end-game RBGs.
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Mvq
2016 TC Champion
Ah now I know you have no clue what you're talking about. The multi rank 1 end-game 19 team got destroyed in skrims. Case closed.
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Mvq
2016 TC Champion
2015 Twink Cup
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Mvq
2016 TC Champion
Now you're just being an idiot about it. cba this convo
Conq
Guest
There where and are way more scrubs at endgame ratio wise than there were in the core of the 19s bracket throughout at least all of WoD (and probably any time post-segregation save for Legion). If I had a dollar for all the times a "19" schooled some high rated goon in arenas or RBGs (or played on their level) than i'd probably be able to buy another monitor, the whole endgame "holier-than-thou" shtick stopped being logical a few years ago.
Allybeboba
Legend
Naturally...
Since practically all lowbies do is PvP. They should be well versed(skilled) in that climate versus their counterparts.
Take them out of their environment and they may not do so well.
Conq
Guest
Indeed, especially on flag based maps, I would go so far as to say that the overwhelming majority of top 19s in WoD practiced more often, longer, and harder than the top rated individuals in WoD.