Shãmrøck vs World(resto sham fc)/ Laughing Skull FTW Youtube Channel

[Zarict]

Oh okey watched 4 mins and im not rly sure if all the praise before is trolling or what? He has yet to earth shock any of the physical dpses, he does not purge, and seeing how the feral is 1300 hp his D should play a lot more aggresive and spampurge/dps feral, forcing the boomkin to go out and rejuv him for him to stay alive, thus forcing boomkin to never cast and keepíng the feral defensive, u can also put some pressure on hunter forcing him to los or use scatter defensively. The jumps was okey but was done at 0 pressure and no real need for them anyway so fail to see the "good" part about it. So far the shaman hasjumped around and trinketed absolutly nothing at 04.00.

So first off, everything you say has a valid point. Yet you failed to look at the composition of his team. Its pugs. Many people from other realms. Im sure EU has their fair share of pugs that arent sure what to do when playing defense when the FC isnt taking tons of pressure. Its not like he is on skype or vent or mumble or teamspeak with his defense. He cant tell them to do something and go aggressive when they arent healing. Due to the Defense not going aggressive and trying to down the feral, he has no reason to purge anything from the feral since there will be no rejuv on the feral from the boomkin.
Good try bro but you still lack thinking about how your points could be countered. You're probably one of those kids who get C's on speeches and papers due to the fact you never acknowledged an opposition before stating your beliefs.

 

[Drugs]

While I myself couldn't help but chuckle when he failed 3 times at the fence jump early on, I still don't believe it warrants such comments as Hurrx and Argument. The key thing to remember about this video is it wasn't an edited string of his best plays, and that takes some guts. Any mediocre twink can play one awesome juke after another (which, let me assure you, Shamrock could make a 20 minute video of) but instead he chose to give you one game fully through. As such, it is important to treat it so, and not criticize every little imperfection. I mean who actually plays 100% perfectly for an entire 25 fucking minutes? Although I do agree it was a bit too long, I stand by my previous comment: superb music choice, respectable tunnel jumping, impressive overall gameplay, 8/10. Constructive criticism is one thing (remember that shit from like what, middle school?), but blatant arrogance and disrespect is certainly childish and uncalled for. Get the fuck out.

 

[Dramatized]

You all seem a bit confused. The players commenting from the US play with Shãmrøck very often, this video is a single game where not many intense maneuvers were required. Shãmrøck is one of the best FC's currently in the US bracket and in my opinion really shines when it comes to doing jumps in mid. Someone was also commenting on the defense in the video, this was a PuG so obviously there was no communication.

If he made a montage video like everyone else does obviously it would make him look amazing, but showing full clips is more realistic than 15 second clips strung together.

obviously we are commenting on the content of this video, that is what everyone should be doing; not his "overall skill".

 

[Arkant]

4 minutes in is never that exciting against a Rsham FC. Theres no need to waste trink 4 minutes in with 3 other healers on him. Why use it then and have a better opportunity of getting downed 10 minutes in incase the offence fails to return the flag in a decent time.

Argument didn't say that Shamrock didn't use his trinket at 4:00. What he was saying is that he used his trinket for absolutely no reason at ~4:00.

 

[Eliot]

obviously we are commenting on the content of this video, that is what everyone should be doing; not his "overall skill".

Sure you can comment on the skill displayed in this short PuG, but unless you play with someone regularly you can never comment on a players skill. As far as I'm concerned, he successful stayed alive while we killed the EFC and he captured the flag.

A+

 

[Zarict]

Argument didn't say that Shamrock didn't use his trinket at 4:00. What he was saying is that he used his trinket for absolutely no reason at ~4:00.

I read that wrong then without watching the video at 4:00 for proof. One mistake aswell as the fence failing as drugs mentioned earlier. I admit it I was wrong there. But still. Its a pug game, a random game. Not a montage clip. Its the 19 bracket. Most people in the bracket arent 2400 or even glad worthy. It was a nice single game video imho. Rshams arent that interesting to watch. Theres no reason to hate on the video due to the fact you dont find Rshams interesting.

 

[xxHolylipzqtxoxotwinkerxx]

Sure you can comment on the skill displayed in this short PuG, but unless you play with someone regularly you can never comment on a players skill. As far as I'm concerned, he successful stayed alive while we killed the EFC and he captured the flag.

A+

I think they expect him to juggle, tap dance, and twirl a baton all the while he fc's in a random recorded pug.

/facepalm

- Union

 

[Drugs]

Excuse me while I go find that EU arena video and point out every little fucking flaw in each person's gameplay.
























Just kidding I'm not a fucking douchebag.

 

[Dramatized]

Sure you can comment on the skill displayed in this short PuG, but unless you play with someone regularly you can never comment on a players skill. As far as I'm concerned, he successful stayed alive while we killed the EFC and he captured the flag.

A+

I have not commented about his skill, other than his performance in this particular video, which I think I am entitled to do. Believe it or not, but 5 minutes of gameplay lets you get a hint of one players skill level.

 

[Eliot]

Shãmrøck vs EU

 

[Drugs]

Un fucking believable. Do you have an off switch? I think I speak for everyone when I say get the FUCK off this forum if you're going to continue being so negative. Nobody gives half a shit about your feedback at this point anyway. Once again - you fucking fail miserably at acknowledging this is a straight through pug and not a series of perfect plays, of course he's going to make some mistakes. I seriously NEVER get angry on forums, and when I do it's almost always because of some pompous, ignorant FUCK like you or Kitn that won't get over themselves and leave with their negativity. Sure you have the right to post about the negative comments, but next time try doing it constructively. Maybe then you'll be regarded with some legitimacy.

 

[Sneaky]

EU pug all the time, end up with shitters in my team 24/7 yet a rshamans play vs a single feral like in start can be a hell of a lot more aggresive. Your point is non existant as the guy is getting spamhealed, he should focus on putting flame shock n earth shock up on feral at all times while purgin rejuv of first global, he is after all getting spamhealed by his healers at little to no stacks. Even bad players will catch his drift and toss a penance out on the 1300 feral if he is constantly going down from totem, flameshock etc, and if they truely dont a simple "kill feral" in bg chat would suffice. Your notion that there is no reason to purge anything from the feral is laughable, as soon as rejuv is up it needs to go, unless he is getting oneshotted , which he aint even close to in the first 5 mins.

Im happy that you agree that trinketing air while getting spamhealed and failing a jump is not good, thank you, it's like one of the biggest no no's as a fc in 5.1, As a shaman thats just a deathwish.

Good try bro? Thank you for bringing in your assumptions about my life outside of this forum, it was clearly needed to prove your point as your point is mute(I go to a top 50 uni world, got my latest paper back and recieved an A tyvm). You say I dont take into consideration the opposition? but thats exactly what I did?

I'm not sure how you were able to get an A at a "top 50 uni world" with that kind of English. And to top it off, most of your sentences are run-on. Are you sure you didn't buy that paper online or something?

 

[xxHolylipzqtxoxotwinkerxx]

No need to get sour, you obviously just expect another lvl of gameplay then me, I never said anything about him having to play perfect, it's near impossible as a shaman btw considering you have a lot options to use your gcds on, and the correct order can be a skill like no one else. However just like you come in here and praise the video, I feel I have to express my feelings about it and tone the expectations down, he fails at elemntary things, trinkets air as a FC, does not seem to understand the shaman class properly and was all in all quite boring as the video is basicly him getting spamhealed with 0 offensive play.

You are the one talking about arrogance and disrespect, none of which is true, I have only posed legitimate questions, and questioned the praises he has recieved. Thank you sir for contributing to the thread, or as you would put it, Get the fuck out.

The only thing missing in there would be a "All Americans are dumb" reference or something, right? Stop.

- Union

 

[Nazzr]

So much drama.... Sadly cant watch the video in germany :/

Excuse me while I go find that EU arena video and point out every little fucking flaw in each person's gameplay.

Nzzr - 19 Windwalker Monk // 3v3 Arena - YouTube no need for searching. go for it im up for any critics

 

[Zarict]

EU pug all the time, end up with shitters in my team 24/7 yet a rshamans play vs a single feral like in start can be a hell of a lot more aggresive. Your point is non existant as the guy is getting spamhealed, he should focus on putting flame shock n earth shock up on feral at all times while purgin rejuv of first global, he is after all getting spamhealed by his healers at little to no stacks. Even bad players will catch his drift and toss a penance out on the 1300 feral if he is constantly going down from totem, flameshock etc, and if they truely dont a simple "kill feral" in bg chat would suffice. Your notion that there is no reason to purge anything from the feral is laughable, as soon as rejuv is up it needs to go, unless he is getting oneshotted , which he aint even close to in the first 5 mins?

Random "shitters" in pugs wont notice a simple flame shock or earth shock on the feral. They will most likely be using healbot or some other fail addon to keep everything alive not paying attention to their surroundings. A penance or and hoj should have been timed well on the feral and the other pally should have hojd the boomkin. Most likely they both would have trinkd and every fear after that would have been full duration. After they both blow trinks when hoj is back up they will be able to kill the feral. You are expecting way too much coordination from pugs. If the feral had brains at all as soon as his health dipped below 90% from a shock he would have popped up rejuv. Aswell as the boomkin would have used rejuv on him. Youre assuming Shamrock has good help so might aswell assume the offence is good aswell right?

 

[Dorigon]

Well, this thread is definitely nowhere near being locked.

 

[Drugs]

Nazzr you dumb fuck, I said I WASN"T going to point out the flaws because im NOT a douchebag. Are you fucking handicapped? You are trying to provoke even more argument and trolling which speaks volume about what kind of a person you truly are. Thanks for the opportunity, but i'll take the high road. Fuckin moron

 

[Sneaky]

Nice to see Sneaky focusing about something else then the actual question at hand and instead focus on being the grammahPOLICE on a forum about twinking in world of warcraft(be it focusing on a non native speaking english guy who come to TI to have some fun, and relax) As much as I like you focusing on grammah instead of gameplay, maybe thats the key to why so many people get offended? Because in their eyes this video is so great and amazing that they fail to see elementary misstakes?

Did you seriously expect to go around parading the fact that you are an A-student at a top 50 university at the world without any question or repercussion? I have already stated my opinion on this thread and the video in a previous post.

And Arabic is my first language...English is my second language. So nice try with the "be it focusing on a non native speaking english guy who come to TI to have some fun, and relax". Is it impossible to relax and have fun while using decent English?

Oh wait, sorry, that must be too much for an A-student of your caliber.

 

[Zarict]

You insult all those players by putting them in the same post as Athene.

IMO Original, and reckful on their rogues were better than athene. Rogues had a hella high skill cap and got nerfed to hell in MoP. On top of that Kollektiv is also up to par if not better. I cant remember the last season Kollektiv wasnt R1 or thought to be one of the best players out there. He has hands down been the best shammy for a few years. Sure Athene was good but other players are up to par if not better.

 

[Snack]

Lets see a video from Hurrx. Everyone in agreement? Let's see how the EU tinks dougie. No montage videos either. It has to be a straight clip from one game.
Please bro, I want to see how to play from a "solid tink". I'll make sure to point out every mistake in your UI and every mistake in your binds and every mistake in your play-style since you're apparently perfect. I expect nothing less than Glad-worthy work. Make Reckful look like a F2P player against a 24 tink. Make Snutz look like a 2200 player to a R1. Make Azael look like a max of a 2k player compared to you. Make Athene look like your apprentice. Then I will accept your statement and agree with you. Til then..

INB4 VIDEO DODGE

So you need to be perfect in order to criticize a video? ust because you can point out flaws in other people's gamelplay, doesn't mean you have to be godlike yourself...

It just seems like the majority of eu players have it out to bash us players (whether they're good or bad). It's all I see now. It's almost like they have something to prove to make up for lost ground.

- Union

Lost ground how? And my point still stands, it's easier to criticize a player that you have never seen b4 than your best friend..

You all seem a bit confused. The players commenting from the US play with Shãmrøck very often, this video is a single game where not many intense maneuvers were required. Shãmrøck is one of the best FC's currently in the US bracket and in my opinion really shines when it comes to doing jumps in mid. Someone was also commenting on the defense in the video, this was a PuG so obviously there was no communication.

If he made a montage video like everyone else does obviously it would make him look amazing, but showing full clips is more realistic than 15 second clips strung together.

All we did was to comment on his gameplay in this video, as so many of you have pointed out, we are EU and got no foundation, to comment on his gameplay, besides this video. I bet his jumps are omfgamazing, but in this video they were more lke basic jumps.

Nazzr you dumb fuck, I said I WASN"T going to point out the flaws because im NOT a douchebag. Are you fucking handicapped? You are trying to provoke even more argument and trolling which speaks volume about what kind of a person you truly are. Thanks for the opportunity, but i'll take the high road. Fuckin moron

I don't think he was trying to flame/troll/provoke, but just wanted some honest criticism