Ryan Dunn #1 troll us/eu

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bankbeauty said:
Obviously, but stats wisely the probability of killing someone while driving sober is a lot lot lot less then driving intoxicated.



I would assume that that would be true but I've yet to see any hard evidence to back that up (and therefore can't accept your argument, yet)...which is exactly what Falkor and I are arguing needs to happen before we fill in the gaps with the worst case scenario and damn a guy to hell. Why is it that we always fill in the gaps with the worst case scenario. Think about it: your friend doesn't return your phone call for a week...what do we usually do? Assume that he/she is pissed off at us. In reality, there's a lot of cases where it's no where near worst case scenario and things like they forgot, are out of town, or lost their phone.



Mechichu, if you are arguing that no one has been condemning you need to re-read the thread before posting anymore. Like serious. Do it.



-Ink



Edit: overzealous -Ink'ing
 
lindenkron said:
I have no respect for "fellow human beings" when they're consciously being reckless.

I've been reckless a few times and almost paid the price, such as flipping over a giant square floating device with 5 other people and having it land on all of us. We were all fortunately underwater and it just splatted flat on the water xD



But goddamn was it fun :) I'm sure Ryan Dunn had a better 34 years than most people would have in 100. I'm honestly surprised no one died from Jackass until now, and the cause of death is even more surprising, since it wasn't from a Jackass skit....



Jackassers are all about living in the moment anyways. They are reckless people. And I can't hate them for doing what they love to do.



It's the same reason why I don't hate on Evil Kenevil.
 
shoulda been bam margera, t-bone him at terminal velocity

annoying prick



Druiddroid said:
It's the same reason why I don't hate on Evil Kenevil.



controlled environment, it's different
 
bankbeauty said:
Obviously, but stats wisely the probability of killing someone while driving sober is a lot lot lot less then driving intoxicated.



Really? Well going from personal experience driving while female is far more dangerous than driving while intoxicated. I know 2 women who hit and killed pedestrians (while sober), and the most serious accidents I can think of that directly effected me all had women at the wheel.



Mothers Against Mothers Driving



I think MAMD is a better sounding acronym anyway :p
 
Druiddroid said:
I'm sure Ryan Dunn had a better 34 years than most people would have in 100. I'm honestly surprised no one died from Jackass until now, and the cause of death is even more surprising, since it wasn't from a Jackass skit....



Agreed, I'm pretty sure I've already written something along these lines in my previous threads :). It still doesn't excuse such behaviour. I don't care what people do to themselves, it's their lives and they can take it or hurt it or abuse it if they wish to - all up to them. What I do mind is when their recklessness becomes a danger to other people living in the society as well. That's why we have rules and laws (supposedly). Inb4 conspiracy theories about "the man" trying to keep us down!
 
Mehcritkillu said:
Must feel good to pop in once in a while and just leave a comment, without having to argue about anything.



i was out somewhere last night and i cant even remember where... wasnt intoxicated or high, but im sick so my memory is shit atm. so yea i missed most of the thread



lindenkron said:
Agreed, I'm pretty sure I've already written something along these lines in my previous threads :). It still doesn't excuse such behaviour. I don't care what people do to themselves, it's their lives and they can take it or hurt it or abuse it if they wish to - all up to them. What I do mind is when their recklessness becomes a danger to other people living in the society as well. That's why we have rules and laws (supposedly). Inb4 conspiracy theories about "the man" trying to keep us down!





And the hypotheticals keep coming in. He hurt himself & his other dumb ass friend, no one else. If there was someone walking at 3am on a highway or w/e it was, they deserve to get hit too.
 
lindenkron said:
Inkobah.. I don't know if this is just an American attitude towards responsibility, but claiming that being intoxicated liberates you from responsibility is straight out idiotic and I'd expected more someone like you.



This is the country where people sue McDonalds cause their coffee is too hot, nothing is ever their responsibility. I'd be surprised if no one sued the company that made the beer cause it got him drunk, maybe the car company because the car could go over the legal limit, or maybe they ought to sue the road for being too slippery.
 
Mehcritkillu said:
Where does it say he only drove on the highway?



Unless he crashed multiple times before making it to the highway and eventually dying, it doesn't matter.
 
Mehcritkillu said:
Can't tell if trolling...



So he couldn't have hit a child on his way out to the highway?



>Hypothetical



If there was someone hit, child or not, there would have been reports and eventually they would have linked Dunn to it.



But alas, hypothetical situations are hypothetical.
 
Sanitarium said:
>Hypothetical



If there was someone hit, child or not, there would have been reports and eventually they would have linked Dunn to it.



But alas, hypothetical situations are hypothetical.



Yes, I'm talking hypothetical - thank you for noticing. And I don't claim that he hit a child, I simply said that driving intoxicated often is united with death of innocent people. Do you agree on that?
 
Mehcritkillu said:
Yes, I'm talking hypothetical - thank you for noticing. And I don't claim that he hit a child, I simply said that driving intoxicated often is united with death of innocent people. Do you agree on that?





But it isn't in this case, which is all that matters.
 
We're talking about one concentrated case of a DUI ending the lives of two friends that made stupid decisions, but thousands of other DUI-related accidents are relevant to this particular one?



You sir, have blown my mind.
 
Vincent said:
This is the country where people sue McDonalds cause their coffee is too hot, nothing is ever their responsibility. I'd be surprised if no one sued the company that made the beer cause it got him drunk, maybe the car company because the car could go over the legal limit, or maybe they ought to sue the road for being too slippery.



umad europeans cant hire lawyers to make money?
 
Mehcritkillu said:
No it isn't all that matters. Obviously we can't get along in this subject, let's just end this DUI-debate.



Do you concede Beebs? I don't know how they roll in Sweden but in the US if you tried to bring such hypotheticals into a court case the judge would say "that has no bearing on this case". Why you're determined to keep asking what if is beyond me. What if doesn't matter. The facts do...which we have yet to see. All we can do with what if's is be thankful that the bad ones didn't happen and wish the good ones did happen in this case.



-Ink
 
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