Rogues May Lose Gouge in MOP

none of these cata classes take skill anymore, shits all about dps and abilities to crutch on. I miss having to be skilled to play. if ur crits are bigger than the other guys crits ur better derp derp
 
I welcome these changes for two reasons, primarily. It should fan out roughly half of the garbage rogues currently playing. Secondly, you have two viable options as it stands versus the one currently... Kickin it oldschool with a particular style of play or still bringin the burst. If no ones competent enough to draw the conclusions as to how then gtfo my thread bitch.
 
(Hass) said:
cata rogue takes no skill. bc rouge took skill. sorry all you bads crutch on shadowstep because your movement/positioning is horrible.
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BC was different entirely...



Your putting a BC rogue back into cata basically, it wont work. I'm not sure how damage is going to scale yet with Resil as a base stat

but if its anything close to how it is now rogues are in danger.



When I first saw shadowstep will be removed for 19's I was excited, until I saw all the mobility buffs every other class was getting.

All we can do is wait and see how this boat sails boys.
 
Møçhå said:
The speculated skills for a level 19 in mop are extreme improvements in every possible way. Rogues will be played how they used to be, combat. None of this stealth, shadowstep, ambush, puss out, repeat. This is fantastic news.
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I would welcome rogue being played how they used to be in TBC in hunters were played the way they were in TBC as well Instead they get freezing arrow which lets even their auto attacks slow. Like conc shot wasnt enough.
 
Just found out we also lost backstab. Rogues don't look good im prob gonna spec sub for the burst with little tot crit > all
 
yougotcriton said:
I would welcome rogue being played how they used to be in TBC in hunters were played the way they were in TBC as well Instead they get freezing arrow which lets even their auto attacks slow. Like conc shot wasnt enough.
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once the many dodge nerfs rolled by end of 2007 going all the way to 2008 into wotlk hunters were actually derping rogues with ease. we lost alot of rogues in this period, many rerolled hunters, priests and paladins. what was OP then still is now.



wingclip worked like 100% of the time, hunters at times only needed 1-2 shots on a rogue...cause up close a hunter at that point could then melee a rogue down. rotation timers made it so you could just mongoose strke, raptor strike, mongoose....etc etc. also hunters had the fire/explosive trap at 19. concussive shot had gaps, not back to back like it is now. to top that a hunter overly concussive shotting would dent their mana pool hard or at times didn't have the mana to use it.



19 rogues in BC had really slow steatlh i think it was 40% speed....and you leveled and trained by 70 you had 70%. 19 rogues that stayed stealthed too long in BC would gimp teams, because they took too long to get set-up. even in wotlk patch 3.3 when they made all rogues go 70%, that was still too slow for the abilities given other classes...blizz realized this, hence the 100% speed buff for all 3 specs.



19 rogues were many times played in the same manner as you would a fury warrior now
 
You guys aren't looking close enough. Some abilities from the list aren't shown yet.



As for hunter Disengage, look at the 3rd row of talents. That's proof that it's still in the game, we just don't know if it's still in the bracket yet. So that being said, Rogues probably aren't losing Gouge or Sprint.
 
rogues will be fine
 
Curley said:
So we have no peel and they can endless conc us FUN!
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they have no concussive shot instead their auto shot has a chance to slow woot blizzard! but then again hunters do lose their stat sticks (i don't think you can enchant bows.)



Btw i think assassination looks like the way to go. Muti no longer requires daggers. Sooo... (maybe a typo i seen a few)



wonder why people getting all pissed rogues can pretty much double ambush people... Subterfuge stealth breaks after 3 seconds of doing damage or taking damage. So ambush once then 1 second later ambush again... you can one shot hunters before they can even hit you.
 
even though i feel bad for the rogue nerf i must say this will thin out the rogue population the good rogues (and there are a lot of you out there) will stick it out and prove why you are considered good and all the baddies will reroll as they always do
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honestly the nerfed classes are where you see the best players because only the best can pull it off
 
Møçhå said:
The speculated skills for a level 19 in mop are extreme improvements in every possible way. Rogues will be played how they used to be, combat. None of this stealth, shadowstep, ambush, puss out, repeat. This is fantastic news.
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My thoughts Exactly!
 
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