berlinetta
Luda
Is it daggers and if so which one honor or jp, on my 19 its dalrends and mcgowans not sure bout 20 tho.
Rogue boa weapons
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berlinetta
Luda
sweet one less boa to grind thanks
Shft
Legend
Technically the boe zone drop dagger from BFD, Doomspike, is BiS OH btw (if you happen to ever see it drop like some of the lucky few like me, emo, and laglol)
danceparty
Legend
two slow weapons are just as good at 20. i run boa sword/shadowfang with great success.
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berlinetta
Luda
well shadowfang is leet...im jelly so i could still run dalrends/mcgowen and be competitive??
danceparty
Legend
definitely viable.
i just run shadowfang in my offhand for memories sake.
i just run shadowfang in my offhand for memories sake.
Rivfader
OG
danceparty
Legend
wicked mh / doomspike>boa dagger>wicked oh
danceparty
Legend
Arknoodle
Legend
Except the part where doomspike has better stats and poison proc rate is NOT 100%
Thrash blade is a pointless weapon do not ever use it. Ever.
If you dont want to use daggers its Dalrends MH with mcgowans OH
Footman
Legend
Point for point, for a character at an average 1200 health, resilience is only 65% as effective as stamina. Therefore, in this bracket, Stam > resilience for PvP (And PvE!) (Remember though, stamina combined with resilience is the best bet, always).
If same stats, obviously go for the faster offhand. Really though, I would consider wicked daggers to be bis before boa.
Even when you get boa, you only get the same amount of stats, and a slightly quicker weapon offhand.... And you lose crit in exchange for resil...
So really Naeomie I gotta disagree without what you say. IMO, if 1 resil is the deciding factor of you killing someone you shouldn't be playing a rogue. It's all about the crit and agi, killing someone before they can attack you back.
If same stats, obviously go for the faster offhand. Really though, I would consider wicked daggers to be bis before boa.
Even when you get boa, you only get the same amount of stats, and a slightly quicker weapon offhand.... And you lose crit in exchange for resil...
So really Naeomie I gotta disagree without what you say. IMO, if 1 resil is the deciding factor of you killing someone you shouldn't be playing a rogue. It's all about the crit and agi, killing someone before they can attack you back.
Footman
Legend
oh right, no the stats on the pvp boa dagger are better than doomspike yes you're correct.
But for offhand, losing .1 wpn speed means that the weapon is 0.1 seconds faster... ie, doomspike is 0.1 seconds faster, so that means more chances of offhand poison procs. But that's only for people that love fast fast offhands. I agree, I would prefer to have the stats, but others may prefer a slightly faster offhand for the poisons.
Also doomspike is 0.3 more dps
So it's really pretty even, and if you get lucky and do find a doomspike, then you may as well use it rather than grinding thousands of honour for boa.
But for offhand, losing .1 wpn speed means that the weapon is 0.1 seconds faster... ie, doomspike is 0.1 seconds faster, so that means more chances of offhand poison procs. But that's only for people that love fast fast offhands. I agree, I would prefer to have the stats, but others may prefer a slightly faster offhand for the poisons.
Also doomspike is 0.3 more dps
So it's really pretty even, and if you get lucky and do find a doomspike, then you may as well use it rather than grinding thousands of honour for boa.
Earlwing
Sheriff Earl
I would say scarlet kris is BiS OH as well. I'm not an expert rogue, but the stat trade offs seem more beneficial for the pvp BoA dagger IMHO. I'm about to try sword MH, dagger OH (for cripp procs) so I'll let you know how that goes.
Also, slightly off topic, but what exactly makes EVERY alliance rogue take the resilience shoulders? Yes, everyone wanted to copy Medan.... but I plan on using the shadowcraft, because hit is a phenomenal dps stat, and I really don't die often as a rogue. My defensive tools make the resil seem a little silly. If sprint, shadowmeld, and evasion can't save me, I doubt that a few resil on my shoulders would. I find myself having trouble putting pressure on paladins and healing classes more often than I wish I had more survivability. Just tossing that out there.
Also, slightly off topic, but what exactly makes EVERY alliance rogue take the resilience shoulders? Yes, everyone wanted to copy Medan.... but I plan on using the shadowcraft, because hit is a phenomenal dps stat, and I really don't die often as a rogue. My defensive tools make the resil seem a little silly. If sprint, shadowmeld, and evasion can't save me, I doubt that a few resil on my shoulders would. I find myself having trouble putting pressure on paladins and healing classes more often than I wish I had more survivability. Just tossing that out there.
Shft
Legend
Crippling is is not ppm, so the speed is a direct proc increase, with all the nelf hunters resisting crip poison as well it only makes the doomspike better. I run crip crip because its way easier to melee someone for a quick second just to apply crip for a peel with crip/crip than just one, esp since theres not a 100% chance i hit them with the weapon at all. I'm not even sure you play this bracket Naeomie
Naeomie
Legend
Ello's band and eyepatch hit caps an alliance rogue. There is no point getting more hit rating when Ambush+Backstab does 70% of a players health. Stormshroud shoulders have more stamina. You could probably get very close to the melee hit cap, but what is the point? You'd end up with 900 health.
I also use dual crippling poison, as does any back peddling rogue. You don't actually need to use dual crip and the 0.1 speed difference between weapons isn't going to make any lasting difference. Instant poison scales with weapon speed as well.