iaccidentallytwink
Guild Master
Rivfader said:
Crit is not burst at all. It's much more static than a PPM which has a DPS variance depending on the amount of special attacks you make.
Question: what weapons/spec, 19 rogue
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Crit is not burst at all. It's much more static than a PPM which has a DPS variance depending on the amount of special attacks you make.
Juicy
OG
Falaris said:
Falaris, on my tip as usual.
Guess you've never head of hit potion eh? And if I'm out, it takes a ten seconds to put on my hit gear.
And they were discussing burst damage, which is exactly what this build delivers.
Edit, just noticed I was logged out in my NR gear. You're an idiot.
iaccidentallytwink
Guild Master
Juicy said:
Isn't it already confirmed that hit is the best (one of) DPS stat even after cap?
Falaris
OG
Juicy said:
Youre using a glyph that 30% of the time has a 50% chance to give you a combo point, in the bracket with 3 total finishing moves, 2 of which are mediocre, and youre calling others idiots? Also, Ive bged with you 5-6 times, and not once have I seen you with a hit pot on. 3 hit rating with sinister strike glyph, I think you can stop posting in this thread now, thanks!
Juicy
OG
Alright. Just wanted to show what I'm talking about when I say this build has burst potential. Here I just built up 5 combo points as fast as possible and ended with an evis. Time on target, like 11 secs. Damage done, around 1600. I also had a couple LS procs in there that weren't counted since the dummies are immune. Now imagine that on a FC with debuff.
Crilicilyn
OG
iaccidentallytwink said:
sorry, i just sobered up enough to use my computer again lol. OK, hit rating is equivalent to crit rating dps wise in rogue calculator (before any variables like talents or glyphs are introduced). Secondly, ello 17 frost resist for premades, GG. (If your worried about poly in a premade than your dispell hates you very very much.) Premading setups are ENTIRELY different than arena and PuG wsg setups. NEVER EVER EVER compare the 2.
On a side note. Soldier cloak should come up as higher dps than spider cloak in the calculator after special cap, I don't have a PC so someone plug it in plz.
Rivfader
OG
Juicy said:Alright. Just wanted to show what I'm talking about when I say this build has burst potential. Here I just built up 5 combo points as fast as possible and ended with an evis. Time on target, like 11 secs. Damage done, around 1600. I also had a couple LS procs in there that weren't counted since the dummies are immune. Now imagine that on a FC with debuff.
You realize that you are recording damage against a lvl 1 so you crit chance will be much higher that what ur character sheet shows, also the target has significantly less armor that anyone you will see in WSG so ur hitting a lot harder. those target dummies aren't great for calculating the actual damage you will do in WSG.
Juicy
OG
Yeah, I realize this isn't exactly conclusive testing. Just wanted to show some numbers. If anyone else can beat that burst with another build I'd like to see it though. The combo that I pulled off happens all the time in WSG.
Ambush Crit> 2 Combo Pts
SS > 1 Combo Pt
SS Crit > 2 Combo Pts
Evis Crit
Ambush Crit> 2 Combo Pts
SS > 1 Combo Pt
SS Crit > 2 Combo Pts
Evis Crit
lindenkron
OG
Juicy said:
What would be more interesting, would be some statistics showing it against difference classes.
For example, seeing the biggest damage output with things against shamans, hunters, warlocks, rogues, warriors, etc
Crilicilyn
OG
RvR details would be entirely different from the other classes.
In general, Casters require no EA, and more silence, the CP breakdown is entirely different since you will use more on Gouge and kick.
Shammy's in travel form, druids too (If you sprinting to keep ToT) require 0 energy in gouge and minimal in kick if they drop for a QC.
Paladin fights generally have more EA on target and SnD due to the guaranteed higher ToT.
Warriors tend to be a free for all, I use no SnD and keep gouge/EA heavy to deal w/ spamstring.
Hunters obviously are a pain, its easier to unload full dps, no EA, and consistent SS and SnD.
I don't think i left anything out, CC mages=don't bother, locks are more of a ToT management fight than anything else, priests are similar too.
PS-To anyone who doesn't know the abbreviations.
RvR-Rogue vs. rogue
EA-Expose Armor
CP-Combo Points
ToT-Time on Target
QC-Quick cast
SnD-Slice n' Dice
CC-Crowd Control
lol, you should know all of these anyways.
/endwalltext
In general, Casters require no EA, and more silence, the CP breakdown is entirely different since you will use more on Gouge and kick.
Shammy's in travel form, druids too (If you sprinting to keep ToT) require 0 energy in gouge and minimal in kick if they drop for a QC.
Paladin fights generally have more EA on target and SnD due to the guaranteed higher ToT.
Warriors tend to be a free for all, I use no SnD and keep gouge/EA heavy to deal w/ spamstring.
Hunters obviously are a pain, its easier to unload full dps, no EA, and consistent SS and SnD.
I don't think i left anything out, CC mages=don't bother, locks are more of a ToT management fight than anything else, priests are similar too.
PS-To anyone who doesn't know the abbreviations.
RvR-Rogue vs. rogue
EA-Expose Armor
CP-Combo Points
ToT-Time on Target
QC-Quick cast
SnD-Slice n' Dice
CC-Crowd Control
lol, you should know all of these anyways.
/endwalltext