PTR Ret paladin wep Testing

[Mortox]

Hey everyone . A few days ago a couple of guildies and myself wondered if all this talk of Nightblade versus Pendulum of Doom was true . Soo i decided to go to the PTR and give it a test !



And my results are as follows :



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Nightblade ^^



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Pendulum of Doom ^^



I used exactly the same gear in both tests , Savagery on the POD and Crusader on the Bar (because it is faster and procs ALOT more )



Now time for some numbers !



We will start off with Nightblade.



Nightblade :



Melee : 45.8 % (25 Hits) ((68% hit , 32 % Crit))

Seal of Command : 33.4% (45 Hits)

Excorcism : 11.9% (5 Hits )

Judgement of Command : 6.2 % (10 Hits)

Shadow Bolt : 2.8% (2 Hits )



Max crit : 682

Total DPS : 230.7



Interestingly enough , seems NB favours RNG a little I crit alot more than my 19.50% crit stats showed ( 32% to be exact )



And now onto Pendulum of Doom :



Melee : 38.4 % (16 Hits) ((75% hit , 25 % Crit))

Seal of Command : 33.7% (36 Hits)

Excorcism : 11.7% (5 Hits )

Judgement of Command : 11.3 % (10 Hits)

Fatal Wound : 5.0% (3 Hits )



Max Crit : 853 (got a 1027 WHITE crit on a lvl 1 dummy self buffed earlier)

Total DPS : 265.8



Conclusion :



POD is clearly a much better weapon , far higher hits , far better DPS . The way the new SOC is , it counts off your TOP end Weapon dmg , not DPS .

So to all those of you out there that said NB will be better for a paladin , I would say to you rather stick to your slow weapons as you allways have done . They are STILL better for you .



Thanks alot for reading , hope it helped a little bit .

 

[Bansil]

<- confused.



SoC is a proc on every hit now right?

why are there so much SoC damaging attacks in both setups?



and you tested ~1,5-2min with every weapon...not really viable data imo.

at least around 6dps difference are a result of one more weapon proc.

only the judgement seems to make the difference.



can you add LoA and BB?

 

[YrziTheYeti]

Seams to be very bugged atm and SoC is proccing multiple times from itself.

 

[Bansil]

ratio -> melee hit : SoC

NB -> 1:1,8

PoD -> 1:2.25



if this is true, it is easy to get a higher dps^^



ratio -> melee dmg : SoC dmg

NB -> 1 : 0,73

PoD -> 1 : 0,88



should be allways 1:0,36



i dont think this data is viable enough to say PoD > NB. the only thing that is noticable is a significant higher judgement dmg on PoD.



edit:

lets do something more with the numbers we have...

9174/25=366,96

366,96x1,36=499,0656

499,0656/2,8=178,24



7938/16=496,125

496,125x1,36=674,73

674,73/4=168,68



->9,56dps diff.

without taking judgements and weapon procs into account the nightblades dps is higher.

weapon proc differs by 100. as long as i dont have other data lets say both procs have 5% chance and can occur on white, exo and judgement.

1,25 procs on 300 = 375

375/60=6,25

1,55 procs on 200 = 310

310/60=5,17

-> 1,08dps diff.



9,56-1,08=8,48dps pre judgements.



1239/5=247,8

247,8/15=16,52



2340/5=468

468/15=31,2

->14,68dps diff.



14,68-8,48=6,2dps



6,2dps more dmg from PoD if judgements go live favouring slow weapons.

i dont think a NB ever was THAT good.

 

[Mortox]

Those 2 screenies are quick ones . i have done 2 X 20 mins tests on EACH wep . Those 2 stats are the average of 5 tests overall . and the screenshots were closest to average anyways , hence why I uploaded them .

 

[Neratho]

Which is important aswell. I mean, it's twice as high!

Edit: talking Judgement damage here.

 

[Bansil]

i editet in some theoretical maths.

6,2dps diff NB<->PoD is a HUGE buff for lolrets...even if judgements go live in this way.

 

[Twinkzruz]

Thats not very much of a wide range, i would feel al ot better if you ran around for an hour testing the weapons

 

[Bansil]

i think you wont feel real good then.



testing weapons for an hour^^ made me lol.

 

[paintusblack]

Thanks for the great info mortox!



is there anyway you can try nightblade with savagery? that would give both setups the same ap.



and could you test LoA? I mean if none of this is possible its fine Thanks again for the analysis

 

[Mortox]

Thanks for the great info mortox!



is there anyway you can try nightblade with savagery? that would give both setups the same ap.



and could you test LoA? I mean if none of this is possible its fine Thanks again for the analysis

Well , if its more info you want , its more info you will get ! i will do ALL 39 weapons available to a 39 paladin . Excluding Bonebiter sadly as I took the sword instead



Ill get savagery on all weps too then . Stay tuned

 

[Samsom]

Well , if its more info you want , its more info you will get ! i will do ALL 39 weapons available to a 39 paladin . Excluding Bonebiter sadly as I took the sword instead



Ill get savagery on all weps too then . Stay tuned

/hail if you do that =D, i suck at theory things