Problem with a shadowfang deal

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If you guys would read the entire thread.. MY name is in the thread. claiming I was the seller for this transaction.. No one is trying to be scammed here.. His paypal Account says one thing and mine says another.. I am as much interested as he in to what went wrong here with the transaction so it doesnt happen again in the future.

If theres anymore info i can provide to paypal for you let me know so they can resolve this issue let me know. I dont want my name thrown down nor you to be out of $90 dollars.

As someone above said paypal is a very legit company. So somewhere along the lines theres been a mistake.
 
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I would be curious to know what day both screenshots were taken on.
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after you posted this, i decided to take another look at kreuzers screenshot again.. if you click on his screenshot, make sure you dont open in a new tab at the bottom in text that is not part of the screenshot it says 08-04-2012 11:31pm and on righthand bottom side it says paypal.jpg. I am guessing this is the date and time that it was uploaded. if you look at the actual screenshot itself on the bottom right corner of the desktop on the toolbar on windows it shows the date and time. on the actual screenshot it says it is 8/5/2012 12:55AM. This is suggesting that the screenshot was uploaded before it was taken.. which obviously is not possible. I know that you can easily change the time and date on your toolbar.

if it really matters, i can try and upload another screenshot of mine on the same site that kreuzer did so you can see all the dates. Although i think mine is a little irrelevant since a transaction can not go from completed to anything else.

Kreuzer, could you please upload another screenshot of paypal? do you see how on my screenshot and clicked on the details link and then take a screenshot of that? this shows the date and time of the transaction on paypal so it would clear any suspicion of changing of the date on the bottom corner of your toolbar.

notoriousthf, i havent canceled the transaction and my paypal balance was 0$ when i created it, 90$ after i added money from bank account and back to 0$ right after i sent it and has been that way since.
 
Alright I've read enough, I don't usually post on here because it's a bunch of worthless repeating bs, but this post is different, I have to put my 2 cents in. I have bought numerous things from Nudge, price range ranging from 10 dollars to 275 dollars, never once was I so called "scammed" , used PayPal as well. Just because your transaction didn't go through isn't a reason to start a rant about being scammed, when you weren't. Nudge is a good guy, only reason I'm here posting is to give my input, considering I have given many pay checks to him haha and never once did he straight up take my hard earned money, and neither would he take yours. Your best bet is to call your bank and tell them you have an issuse when a payment and just want to cancel it.

Kidrocket, LSFTW!
 
Kidrocket said:
Alright I've read enough, I don't usually post on here because it's a bunch of worthless repeating bs, but this post is different, I have to put my 2 cents in. I have bought numerous things from Nudge, price range ranging from 10 dollars to 275 dollars, never once was I so called "scammed" , used PayPal as well. Just because your transaction didn't go through isn't a reason to start a rant about being scammed, when you weren't. Nudge is a good guy, only reason I'm here posting is to give my input, considering I have given many pay checks to him haha and never once did he straight up take my hard earned money, and neither would he take yours. Your best bet is to call your bank and tell them you have an issuse when a payment and just want to cancel it.

Kidrocket, LSFTW!
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I hope you realize, he wasn't ranting about being scammed, but just asking if there would be a way to redeem his money,
 
Kreuzer said:
So I am going to go ahead and join this thread before it gets turned into something it is not. A couple weeks ago Flamer and I were talking back and forth on private messages pertaining to the shadowfang I was selling and had posted on the auction house forums. Him and I went back and forth a few times about a price and he was new to buying things online and I let him know paypal was the only way I feel safe using my real life money to sell or purchase things. After a few days of conversation I agreed that I would sell Andrew the Shadowfang for 90 USD. The next morning I had a pending transaction from Flamer on my paypal account for 90 USD. This was obviously for the shadowfang so I kept a close eye on the transaction to make sure when it went from pending to completed i would be ready to trade him. I wanted to be as quick as possible with the transaction to keep a rep as a good and quick seller. This transaction never completed… Still today the transaction says “pending”

Because Flamer contacted me several times saying he had made the payment and It wasn’t in his bank account I even contacted paypal myself to ask the details of the transaction and as to why for over 2 weeks I have had a pending transaction. My response from paypal was that the 90 Dollars from Flamer was unavailable from his source of payment connected to his paypal account. Then went on to say that until Flamer himself canceled the transaction or fulfilled his payment method with $90.00 that the transaction would stay pending for 90 days.


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I would advise people to look at the font of the name and "pending" and then look at the rest of the site. Fonts are different, now I dont know if this is how Paypal does it however I find it just a tad bit suspicious that they only two sections where font is changed is Name and "pending". Peace
 
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I don't know about you guys, but a 90 dollar payment for editing a screenshot in MSPaint would be more than enough for me :) Not speaking out about it it's a scam or not, just stating an obvious fact.
Hope you get your SF/Money back though!
 
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What it looks like for me.

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I think a lot of you guys need to step back and stop looking for the worst in this situation. Innocent until proven guilty should apply here just as much as it would apply anywhere else. I mean even the creator of the thread isn't saying anything about being scammed or anything like that, just wondering if something went wrong on his end and if there is anything that can be done to get his money back.

Wait until more screenshots and information to be provided before jumping on the scammer bandwagon and blowing something that could be a simply glitch way out of proportion.
 
thank you for finding the font change in kreuzer's screenshot. i uploaded another screenshot on paypal -- this time in the same view as kreuzers (i didnt click on details link this time) and you will see that in mine the font is consistent with the rest of the text on the page. also, i found that in mine both his name and the payment status text are directly under name/email and payment status. The first letter of his name is directly under the first letter of name/email (n) and the first letter of completed (c) is directly under the first letter of payment status (p). In his screenshot, not only is the font different but "Pending" is not directly under payment status but is sort of in the middle while my name is right under name/email. This is another inconsistency. Here are the 2 screenshots, i just took another because in my original one, i clicked on the details link so the page it is on is different than kreuzer's, and now the new screenshot is on the same page as his so you can see the difference in font and placement of the words.

You may notice that the first screenshot was on a mac and this one is on a windows computer.. I have both the windows is my laptop and the mac is the family computer, up until now i knew that you could take screenshots on mac with command-shift-4 and it would automatically save to your desktop but when i pressed the print screen button on my windows laptop, i could never find it afterwords. I thought it would go to a folder, like it does when you use print screen in wow but i looked online and found that it just saves onto your clipboard and you just have to open up microsoft paint and paste it then save it.

Here is my new screenshot on same page as kreuzer's original one:
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then open up kreuzer's original screenshot found on page 1.

kreuzer, i know you have seen this, can you please respond? If you have in fact gotten my money, can i please have it back since the shadowfang is now gone? thats all you have to do and everything will be fine. I know you have viewed the lastest posts of this thread,
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, notice tence's post and the time and date of it, then kreuzer's name at the bottom for the users browsing the thread
 
tence said:
I think a lot of you guys need to step back and stop looking for the worst in this situation. Innocent until proven guilty should apply here just as much as it would apply anywhere else. I mean even the creator of the thread isn't saying anything about being scammed or anything like that, just wondering if something went wrong on his end and if there is anything that can be done to get his money back.

Wait until more screenshots and information to be provided before jumping on the scammer bandwagon and blowing something that could be a simply glitch way out of proportion.
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What exactly are you trying to say? The innocent can't be shown to be guilty unless this very stuff is posted.

Anyway, it is evident that the 'Pending' in Kreuzer's screenshot is in the wrong place and font. Pretty clear scam.
 
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and hes lurking the thread hoping that some of his defenders will be victorious in the argument

but dorygon just devastates them
 
I guess this is all the evidence we need to conclude that Kreuzer is scamming people through the Twink Info Community. The only problem is, we're still on the internet.

Conclusion: The world would be better off without Kreuzer, unfortunately, we don't know who the f*ck he is. Ofcourse, there are many, many ways to find out who he is, but I don't know sh*t about that. Good luck with this situation, I really feel bad for you, these people are the biggest bastards ever.

@Shane and/or other moderators
You may want to look into this, hopefully you aren't just a machine.
 
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Hurrx said:
and hes lurking the thread hoping that some of his defenders will be victorious in the argument

but dorygon just devastates them
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Nope, credit goes to those who did the grunt work analyzing screenshots ;p
 
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