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So can i ask since when jumps became an issue in twinking? i mean like these new kids of the bracket complain that i do jumps in premades? I'm sorry that I took the time to learn and practice said jumps. Look at any past fc before this "f2p" bracket from 19s etc you never saw anyone complain about jumps back then, people looked at fcs as being good unique and skilled because they could do jumps, now these 15/16 year old teenagers cry about me doing jumps because they don't know how to do them, seriously i've been fcing in this bracket longer than most of these new kids have been in the bracket in general, i'm not changing my fcing playstyle just because some kid is going to cry that he can't do jumps i'm sorry
 
I don't see why alliance gy jump being "harder" is an issue, they're both possible, plus iirc alliance has more routes getting up - note; including the one which goes from in front of gy towards ToT a little, to the very top (above gy shelf).

I've always had the opinion that any jump within reason* should of course be allowed, what I wouldn't approve of is people using jump macros to exploit that rule.

*by this I mean things like rocket-jump-only-accessible-jumps etc.
 
Phrontistery said:
I don't see why alliance gy jump being "harder" is an issue, they're both possible, plus iirc alliance has more routes getting up - note; including the one which goes from in front of gy towards ToT a little, to the very top (above gy shelf).

I've always had the opinion that any jump within reason* should of course be allowed, what I wouldn't approve of is people using jump macros to exploit that rule.

*by this I mean things like rocket-jump-only-accessible-jumps etc.
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There are several druids in the bracket that use scripts to do jumps that normally would be impossible to do in one try. That is why they are banned in competitive bgs. If OP can't fc with out crutching on unfair jumps, it just goes to show that he doesn't have a well rounded skill set.
 
If you've fc'd in a premade, u know that without jumps, u basically go to and from ur team and thats all. literally 3 routes, tun and get caught or ramp and get caught orrrr gy and get caught. caught, as in make it into team. then u sit behind ur team if opposing team has their flag safely. and u sit there til 6 stack and wait to see who can accomplish the gank first.

so with that being said. u literally have no skillset. all u really have to know is where on the map ur team is. thats pretty much it. I am for jumps, they imo are the only real factor to see if an fc is individually able mechanically. and when it comes to 3rd party software for jumps. Do none of you own a mechanical keyboard? if u do u know its basically impossible to do a successful jump on a mechanical keyboard. so that should give u an answer. if u still dont understand. ill pray for you.
 
Depends what kind of jumps... The usual type or the one where you disappear behind those huts behind roof in wsg?
 
I am for jumps, always have been. I think it separates the robot FC's from the FC's that are capable of doing more. But when it comes to premades, and GY jumps, horde gets a free pass up to their top of GY, whereas alliance can get into their GY, with great difficulty, but they cannot get above their GY, I'm sure there is a way but it probably takes 10x more effort and time and a you probably can't do it with stacks. The horde one you can.

Bottom line, I am against GY jumps in general, you shouldn't be able to win a game just because you are horde and they're alliance, and your FC can do jumps.
 
Daddy said:
I am for jumps, always have been. I think it separates the robot FC's from the FC's that are capable of doing more. But when it comes to premades, and GY jumps, horde gets a free pass up to their top of GY, whereas alliance can get into their GY, with great difficulty, but they cannot get above their GY, I'm sure there is a way but it probably takes 10x more effort and time and a you probably can't do it with stacks. The horde one you can.

Bottom line, I am against GY jumps in general, you shouldn't be able to win a game just because you are horde and they're alliance, and your FC can do jumps.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG_EmMxSWBE 02:22 easy jump? much faster than horde gy. imo
 
I agree, difference is that when they try and do that they are open in los, and war can charge up, mind u that to get on top of horde gy is at least 3-4 jumps, from horde gy to top of horde gy is anothyer 3-4, there is no way to go from field to top of horde gy in 3-4 jumps, ally has 2 different ways to get above to top of ally gy with 3-4 jumps each. war can charge up this too.
 
Scope said:
I agree, difference is that when they try and do that they are open in los, and war can charge up, mind u that to get on top of horde gy is at least 3-4 jumps, from horde gy to top of horde gy is anothyer 3-4, there is no way to go from field to top of horde gy in 3-4 jumps, ally has 2 different ways to get above to top of ally gy with 3-4 jumps each. war can charge up this too.
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A warr can't charge when you are on a fence and they can just wait to go up it until they push alli back a bit.
 
Daddy said:
A warr can't charge when you are on a fence and they can just wait to go up it until they push alli back a bit.
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yes, but im not saying charge when hes on fence, my fault for not being specific. What about the rest of the stuff i mentioned, the ease of access to and from top of gy for both ally and horde, who has it easier?

Tiger said:
Thotfc openly admits he uses 3rd party software to do jumps. He is shit at fcing in general without them. That is not an "easy" jump. It is impossible on certain character models and requires precision if you aren't hacking,
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lol wot dude, if he is using razor synapse jump macro, then i'll explain the "hacking" lololol

the macro consists of (w + spacebar/jump) if u dont have a mechanical keyboard then its def not hard. you my friend are troubled. what char models are u saying cant do this? have u tried them all?
 
Scope said:
yes, but im not saying charge when hes on fence, my fault for not being specific. What about the rest of the stuff i mentioned, the ease of access to and from top of gy for both ally and horde, who has it easier?



lol wot dude, if he is using razor synapse jump macro, then i'll explain the "hacking" lololol

the macro consists of (w + spacebar/jump) if u dont have a mechanical keyboard then its def not hard. you my friend are troubled. what char models are u saying cant do this? have u tried them all?
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He uses a jump bot. Yes, I consider using 3rd party software for mechanical advantages in game "hacking". He even made a guide on it a couple weeks back. You, like a lot of people, are missing the point however. Your whole argument is that jumps is what differentiate between good and bad fcs. It is so easy to do jumps with scripts that it doesn't differentiate anyone at all, it just gives those that run scripts an unfair advantage.

On a side note, the way you talk makes you seem so bigoted and ignorant. I would work on that.
 
Light said:
why is the name of this thread not jumps or someshit
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because people don't give two shits if i jump in pugs, it's premades where people start crying about them
 
Tiger said:
He uses a jump bot. Yes, I consider using 3rd party software for mechanical advantages in game "hacking". He even made a guide on it a couple weeks back. You, like a lot of people, are missing the point however. Your whole argument is that jumps is what differentiate between good and bad fcs. It is so easy to do jumps with scripts that it doesn't differentiate anyone at all, it just gives those that run scripts an unfair advantage.

On a side note, the way you talk makes you seem so bigoted and ignorant. I would work on that.
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tell me this, what is the difference between a jump bot and scroll clicking, their both a "macro" to make something easier, do you realize how much skill it took to return a flag before "Interact with Mouseover" was implemented into the game?
 
Dform said:
tell me this, what is the difference between a jump bot and scroll clicking, their both a "macro" to make something easier, do you realize how much skill it took to return a flag before "Interact with Mouseover" was implemented into the game?
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I'll let you know when they implement a jump bot into the game
 
Tiger said:
He uses a jump bot. Yes, I consider using 3rd party software for mechanical advantages in game "hacking". He even made a guide on it a couple weeks back. You, like a lot of people, are missing the point however. Your whole argument is that jumps is what differentiate between good and bad fcs. It is so easy to do jumps with scripts that it doesn't differentiate anyone at all, it just gives those that run scripts an unfair advantage.

On a side note, the way you talk makes you seem so bigoted and ignorant. I would work on that.
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first and foremost, jump "bot", so does he not play his char? 2nd, "I consider using 3rd party software for mechanical advantages in game "hacking"", so in your opinion, would using a non mechanical keyboard be a mechanical advantage. as stated above about the disadvantage of using a mechanical keyboard. if you know who runs scripts, why dont u not play with them???

great side note, i am ignorant :) thanks for worrying
 
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