Potted/buffed survival hunters

Petyr said:
if you're determined to solo q low lvl pvp (why even do that to yourself, it's fucking cancer), adapt accordingly rather than bitch about it
my solution? don't enter a bg w/o spore buff (+30 all stats), agi pot / food buff, weap stones, swift pots, saltwaters, gliders, drums, etcetc and utilize 'em if necessary. for example, at 19: if i see a druid fc on enemy team use a swift pot, anything is fair game
unless you're facing a competent premade (a rare occurrence in this xpac, and if it's players i respect i wouldn't even use consumables in such a game), it's usually possible to force ties as rogue w/ said method, even if your pug teammates are being gy/mid farmed by fotm shitters
inb4 retards claim that proper positioning etc can prevent the necessity of this and consumables are crutches -- i outlined my views on this several yrs back, and they're even more critical for solo qing (as rogue, in my case) w/ legion, where gear alone isn't enough to global anything
(again, this is if solo qing) can't count on your teammates to be anything more than horseshit, and one must expect the enemy players to be buffed out the ass w/o 60 int etc
will every game play out that way? no. but it's a matter of preparedness, provided that 19/29 are usually nothing less than complete aids
[doublepost=1527884619,1527883435][/doublepost]alternate solutions: avoid this bracket (best option by far), roll w/ 5man and shitstomp any1 (boring as fuck), or reroll fotm
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lmao who said anything about solo qing? I'm just talking about survs only. fuck everyone else.
 
imtrashlol said:
lmao who said anything about solo qing? I'm just talking about survs only. fuck everyone else.
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if you're having issues w/ survs while qing w/ a premade, i'm not even sure what to tell you
 
imtrashlol said:
People who actually buff/pot up b4 a bg and they play survival should really just off themselves.
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I understand your frustrations w/ survs. I had a similar reaction. Survs are op w/ stun effect. Like others, I had to learn how to deal w/ survs. I play MM's at lvl 19, both ally & horde. It's real simple, while in lvl 19 RBG's, and your group does not have a comparable number of warriors, survs, pally's and heals in your group, you will lose! Prior to Legion, I rarely left rbg's before the end, because I had the enchants, etc., to deal w/ most toon types. In Legion, I leave all "one-sided" match-ups (namely premades) before they get started. I will not waste my time and suffer "deaths" for no reason. I don't need the frustration.
 
imtrashlol said:
who said anything about premades? your literally going around the main topic and its fucking dumb.
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the original topic was an array of complaints about consumable-chugging survs being fotm shitters. i am not disagreeing with this assessment
my reply was based on the assumption that you were solo qing, as otherwise complaining about fotm is nonsensical (it is either way, given that horrifically-imbalanced fotm is a fact of low lvl pvp), provided that a competent premade can usually shitstomp any # of survs (assuming the avg lvl of braindead-ness of said survs)
your first reply was questioning why i aimed my initial reply at advice regarding solo qing. the reason for that, as explained above, is that there are a few viable options for countering fotm in such a position
my second reply, which was apparently "fucking dumb," aimed to clarify my initial reply, provided that your own msg ("who said anything about solo qing") implied that you weren't actually solo qing, or (if that's not the case) that the issues you were having w/ survs weren't derived from that condition (of solo qing)

the general point i'm trying to make here: it's asinine to expect any degree of balance from such brackets. fotm is always a thing. adapt accordingly, whining on TI is pointless
 
Lunaglow said:
I understand your frustrations w/ survs. I had a similar reaction. Survs are op w/ stun effect. Like others, I had to learn how to deal w/ survs. I play MM's at lvl 19, both ally & horde. It's real simple, while in lvl 19 RBG's, and your group does not have a comparable number of warriors, survs, pally's and heals in your group, you will lose! Prior to Legion, I rarely left rbg's before the end, because I had the enchants, etc., to deal w/ most toon types. In Legion, I leave all "one-sided" match-ups (namely premades) before they get started. I will not waste my time and suffer "deaths" for no reason. I don't need the frustration.
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Right. This main topic is on Survs using pots/buffs in bgs. Rather that being in 19s and or 29s I could care less if I see a surv not using anything. I steamroll survs that doesn't go big gay in bgs. Its like are you that bad to just play the spec without using pots/buffs? Its dumb yes!
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Petyr said:
the original topic was an array of complaints about consumable-chugging survs being fotm shitters. i am not disagreeing with this assessment
my reply was based on the assumption that you were solo qing, as otherwise complaining about fotm is nonsensical (it is either way, given that horrifically-imbalanced fotm is a fact of low lvl pvp), provided that a competent premade can usually shitstomp any # of survs (assuming the avg lvl of braindead-ness of said survs)
your first reply was questioning why i aimed my initial reply at advice regarding solo qing. the reason for that, as explained above, is that there are a few viable options for countering fotm in such a position
my second reply, which was apparently "fucking dumb," aimed to clarify my initial reply, provided that your own msg ("who said anything about solo qing") implied that you weren't actually solo qing, or (if that's not the case) that the issues you were having w/ survs weren't derived from that condition (of solo qing)

the general point i'm trying to make here: it's asinine to expect any degree of balance from such brackets. fotm is always a thing. adapt accordingly, whining on TI is pointless
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My point is.. People who buff/pot up before a bg and they are playing survival is straight retarded. No need in all that. As anyone else who play 19s/29s everyone has adapted to going against survivals. Its a known fact. It is very rare to not see a surv in any 19/29 bg. "fotm is always a thing" Yes fotm is always a thing everyone knows that. But potted/buffed surv hunts nah.
 
imtrashlol said:
Right. This main topic is on Survs using pots/buffs in bgs. Rather that being in 19s and or 29s I could care less if I see a surv not using anything. I steamroll survs that doesn't go big gay in bgs. Its like are you that bad to just play the spec without using pots/buffs? Its dumb yes!
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My point is.. People who buff/pot up before a bg and they are playing survival is straight retarded. No need in all that. As anyone else who play 19s/29s everyone has adapted to going against survivals. Its a known fact. It is very rare to not see a surv in any 19/29 bg. "fotm is always a thing" Yes fotm is always a thing everyone knows that. But potted/buffed surv hunts nah.
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the issue here is that you're expecting 20-29, and low lvl pvp as a whole, to be anything less than a cesspool of retardation to the highest possible degree
potted/buffed fotm-rolling twinks has always been a thing, and it always will be. the bracket's current balance--which, sure, favors survs--isn't even that bad compared to prior xpacs
one cannot rationally q 20-29 or comparable brackets without expecting such conditions to be present. thinking otherwise is naive, which is my main criticism of this thread, as if some posts on here will be able to reverse the current of festering aids that has defined this bracket since its inception
adapt (which is still an exercise in futility) or (as is my preferred option) avoid the brackets
 
Petyr said:
the issue here is that you're expecting 20-29, and low lvl pvp as a whole, to be anything less than a cesspool of retardation to the highest possible degree
potted/buffed fotm-rolling twinks has always been a thing, and it always will be. the bracket's current balance--which, sure, favors survs--isn't even that bad compared to prior xpacs
one cannot rationally q 20-29 or comparable brackets without expecting such conditions to be present. thinking otherwise is naive, which is my main criticism of this thread, as if some posts on here will be able to reverse the current of festering aids that has defined this bracket since its inception
adapt (which is still an exercise in futility) or (as is my preferred option) avoid the brackets
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I'm not expecting anything. Your understanding and your viewpoint in my first comment on this thread isn't about wanting people to be less "toxic or retarded". My viewpoint is that all pot/buffed survs in my opinion should get farmed. That's it.
 
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