Poll: Should players be allowed to opt-out of the TOP 100 listings?

[lofi]

I created the F2P Rankings thread for the community, as a useful and fun resource, as well as some humor. As such, I want the community to decide if I should maintain an opt out list for the TOP 100 rankings.

POLL: Should players be allowed to opt-out of the TOP 100 F2P Rankings?
A) Yes, players should be allowed to opt out of the TOP 100 F2P listings.
B) No, everyone in the TOP 100 should be included.
C) I don't care.



leotseddap: I put a considerable amount of effort into this listing, and I don't appreciate you "demanding" me to implement changes that mean more work on my part, and possibly make the thread less useful. However, I created this thread for the community, so I am giving the community a chance to decide the fate of the f2p rankings thread. While I don't personally agree with opting out, I am willing to maintain an opt out list if it's the consensus of the community.

 

[Domunique]

The only reason I voted dont care is because I dont care.... Although lofi put alot of work into it and I WANT to know what my EXACT rank is within the f2p community wheather its achievement points or honourable kills, why somone would want to remove themselves I dont know. Its like if the top 9 US "achievement point" players all wanted to be removed off the list, I would be number one..... but im not actually number one in the real world so wtf am i representing?

 

[Broken]

Frankly, you don't hold the right to just put up the armouries of other people on your list. If a person does not want to be on the list, then you should just remove him. A person can have his own personal reasons for wanting to be excluded and you should respect that. An individual doesn't hold the right over what other people do, but that doesn't mean he has to be involved.

I believe Leotseddap's character is a priest. Each list is averaging out at 12.25 armouries of priests. Honestly, I don't think you'll be making the list any less helpful by removing 1 armoury.

Just my 2 cents...

 

[Klinda]

I agree with he poster above. While I along with the rest of the community commend you on your hard work towards the list, people should have the choice as to whether or not they want themselves listed or not. Whether the reasons are personal or not, the decision should still be left to the person being listed.

Remember when Yde created the Questions thread? She asked people for their bis references before listing them or people offered their own characters for display, and i'm sure she would have removed them politely if that person did not want their characters displayed for whatever reason. I'm not comparing anything but i'm just saying, it's an ethics issue.

 

[rsq]

Can I suggest another choice? I think players that are known HK botters should be removed from the list. I understand why you have kept them but I think it skews the list. There are enough bis characters of most classes to cover any losses it would cause on the sheet.

However, I agree with you in including every character; Blizzard has made the armories public knowledge and all you have done is redistribute that knowledge. I don't believe you're infringing upon anyone's privacy. At the same time, I understand why people would want to be left out. It's a slippery slope - I think it's rather impressive of you to hold it up to a vote like this.

 

[Aradiel]

No armory URLs are in any way linked to TI accounts, unless people complain and ask to be removed. How can we be sure people are the ones that own that character? As for rights, there are no rights. Anyone can form a list of anything they like. The only rules would be concerned with TI. You can post the list anywhere, and no one here would have any way to change it.

If you pick and choose which armories are on the list, the list becomes invalid. It's not a competition. There are no prizes, it's simply an informative list. Of the two people wanting to be removed, one character isn't played anymore, and no one has heard of the other one. I don't see what the problem is. I think it would be great if when I played my paladin I had the same anonymity I have when I play my other characters, and would be free to play without being focused, but removing all mention of it from TI wouldn't change that.

 

[threesets]

the armories are public view on the armory, so i think they can't blame you for "stealing" their armory

 

[La'Haryl]

I picked I don't care.

Let people masturbate to their scores. If someone doesn't want on the list. Don't put them. Silly poll is silly.

 

[Debacle]

Frankly, you don't hold the right to just put up the armouries of other people on your list.

"Right"? This is open, available information on the official wow site. No players hold any rights over the information displayed on the armory.

However, as a matter of respect, I think if someone, for whatever reason, didn't want to be on the list and requested to be removed, their request should be honored.

 

[La'Haryl]

"Right"? This is open, available information on the official wow site. No players hold any rights over the information displayed on the armory.

However, as a matter of respect, I think if someone, for whatever reason, didn't want to be on the list and requested to be removed, their request should be honored.

^ This = Thread.

If you want to be a douchebag, no one has rights to their character but blizzard, says so in the ToS, Post their armory as many times as you want. If you want to be respectful and take them down, do it.

Poll wasn't needed, hell, top 100 isn't needed. Too many players on this forum have an E-go.

 

[Broken]

There are no prizes, it's simply an informative list. Of the two people wanting to be removed, one character isn't played anymore, and no one has heard of the other one.

And no, it's not only an informative list but also a competition. When was the last time you were forced into your neighbourhood's cooking competition? Never, right? Why should I be forced into this then? And I have no problem with people using my armoury for reference. I liked the idea of the armoury thread and Yde's quick help thread. I myself asked for my armoury to be put up and they obliged. I don't like the idea of this thread, why should I be forced into it? Lofi should respect another person's wishes. I honestly don't understand why he can't delete 2 armouries? "More work on my part"? That's a lot coming from a guy who spent so much time getting achievements. Kek.

If no one has heard of me, I don't understand what the huge problem is about my character being removed. I'll disappear as quickly as I came.

the armories are public view on the armory, so i think they can't blame you for "stealing" their armory

I'm not saying anyone "stole" the armoury and if I sounded like that, then I didn't intentionally. I merely don't wish to be included in this.

 

[Debacle]

"More work on my part"? That's a lot coming from a guy who spent so much time getting achievements. Kek.

If you want someone to do something extra for you, like going into the top 100 list and removing you, would it hurt to be courteous?

 

[l30t53dd6p]

Making a poll out of this is pretty silly. Even before you made this stupid thread the outcome is allready there.

I'm not even going to vote because it is a matter of respect towards others wich you clearly don't have it seems.

If you pick and choose which armories are on the list, the list becomes invalid.

Then these lists are invalid by default because that happened here allready. They are incomplete from the day they were made.

Of the two people wanting to be removed, one character isn't played anymore, and no one has heard of the other one.

Wich of the 2 am I? I don't recognize myself in any of these 2.

 

[threesets]

Lofi can do whtever the he'll he wants. If you want to be nice and ask him he may remove you, but if you go around calling his ideas stupid, and bossing him around saying "he needs to take you off the list" don't expect any change. you cannot make him do anything.

 

[Garrett]

Frankly, you don't hold the right to just put up the armouries of other people on your list. If a person does not want to be on the list, then you should just remove him. A person can have his own personal reasons for wanting to be excluded and you should respect that. An individual doesn't hold the right over what other people do, but that doesn't mean he has to be involved.

I believe Leotseddap's character is a priest. Each list is averaging out at 12.25 armouries of priests. Honestly, I don't think you'll be making the list any less helpful by removing 1 armoury.

Just my 2 cents...

Wtf are you talking about? He/she holds every ''right'' to slap your armory page. Do you think you own your armory page? Get real dude. Blizzard owns your armory page, and there's no way in shit Blizzard is going to tell anyone to remove armory pages and that's because they built that with the intention of showing shit in the first place.

''doesn't mean he has to be involved''

What do you think that topic is? The paparazzi?

Players shouldn't be allowed to opt out of the listing, for the same reason that Dom had specified. If people are allowed to remove themselves from the Top 100 list then it's not really a Top 100 list.

Fuck censorship.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

Lofi can do whtever the he'll he wants. If you want to be nice and ask him he may remove you, but if you go around calling his ideas stupid, and bossing him around saying "he needs to take you off the list" don't expect any change. you cannot make him do anything.

Ok so i guess this was directed at me perhaps? then go read first before making comments like this wich are not entirely true. Not sure what you are trying to do here...

 

[MarzRider]

Why does it have to be a competition? I dont see it as one.

I cannot comprehend why people are getting so defensive about having their "toon" listed on a frieken page. Like most have their toons listed in their signature, like you are getting MORE publicity from your signature than you are from lofi's thread. I enjoy looking at the toons that are up on the list. Just keep em on ffs.

 

[Garrett]

Why does it have to be a competition? I dont see it as one.

I cannot comprehend why people are getting so defensive about having their "toon" listed on a frieken page. Like most have their toons listed in their signature, like you are getting MORE publicity from your signature than you are from lofi's thread. I enjoy looking at the toons that are up on the list. Just keep em on ffs.

That's exactly it. It's only a competition because said individual sees it as one, that doesn't make it one.

 

[Aradiel]

Broken, the cooking is not quite an apt analogy. If your cooking was displayed on a website, and someone made a list of other people on the same site, that would be closer to it. We'll just have to agree to disagree. It's really not a competition. It's just a reference.

I simply meant that you no longer do BGs, so I never see you anymore, leo.

Being a turtle fan, and your being the first, or at least one of the first, people to catch one, I added your armory to my turtle registry thread. That wasn't really a competition either. It was just to show that it was possible. I also hoped more people would get turtles, and that we would see a turtle parade in WSG. Not that that ever happened, but I have seen some AP screenies with lots of turtles, so that's almost good enough. I don't think you had a problem with that, although an alliance paladin did, and had their name removed from my turtle registry by a mod without even contacting me. I later messaged him and asked why, and it was something along the lines of not wanting to be bothered with questions about the turtle while playing.

One of the things I found interesting was that even among the highest achievement point characters, turtles are not very common at all. A shame really. People need to catch more. Pointless little bits of information like that are easily gleaned from the list. While I agree that it's hardly complete. As more names are added, it will become more complete.

Anyway, it's not about ePeen. It's not a competition. It's just a list ordered by HKs and achievement points. Various other PvP and achievement stats are also included.

 

[rsq]

One of the things I found interesting was that even among the highest achievement point characters, turtles are not very common at all. A shame really. People need to catch more.

Dear RNG gods...