Party sync Cross-Faction

Eragon3044

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Hi me and my friend are horde and my other friend is alliance. How can i party sync in cross-faction ? when we invite the alliance hes remove from group we active party sync before invite the alliance one to group ! any trick to invite him to group with sync party ?
 
Eragon3044 said:
But i see some people sell powerlevel they invite horde and alliance in same group with party sync on
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You're probably misinterpreting something. Have you been in such a group yourself?

EDIT: Just for clarity, I'm assuming this has to do with pulling a level 70+ into the Chromie Time layer? I don't think the levelers necessarily need to be in the same group as those chars as long as someone in their own group is also tagging everything?
 
drake178 said:
You're probably misinterpreting something. Have you been in such a group yourself?

EDIT: Just for clarity, I'm assuming this has to do with pulling a level 70+ into the Chromie Time layer? I don't think the levelers necessarily need to be in the same group as those chars as long as someone in their own group is also tagging everything?
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yeah im level 70
 
drake178 said:
You're probably misinterpreting something. Have you been in such a group yourself?

EDIT: Just for clarity, I'm assuming this has to do with pulling a level 70+ into the Chromie Time layer? I don't think the levelers necessarily need to be in the same group as those chars as long as someone in their own group is also tagging everything?
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Eragon3044 said:
Is there a way for me ( level 70 ) to get out of the Timewalking campaigns?
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It's not you who is in Timewalking campaign, it's your low-level friends. They're probably not choosing it either, it's an automatic override in the Dragon Isles leveling zones. You can get around it with Party Syncing from Chromie Time, but that does not work in cross-faction groups. Sorry, but no. What you're asking is not possible. Those people that "sell powerlevel" are probably doing something else.
 
OK, so regarding this, I think I understand what’s happening.

I got an Alliance character boosted from level 10 to 70 today. The booster was a level 70 Horde character. When he invited me, it was as a raid group. Then, after I was summoned to the southern stone of Azure Span, the group was converted into a party. He didn’t use party sync at all, but I could see him, and he could see all the other boostees.

I was trying to figure this out because I had attempted to do it myself—I could have boosted my own character using my other account. However, I couldn’t get Chromie Time to work. My other account had a level 70 Horde character, but since I couldn't use party sync due to being different factions, I tried using a raid group instead. I attempted various things—forming a party, logging out and back in, etc.—but no matter what I did, I couldn’t get my alt into the same phase.

I tried with no Chromie Time selected, then with Dragonflight selected, and tested every possible method, but nothing worked. However, when my Alliance character got boosted, as soon as I reached level 70, I phased away from the entire party—including the level 70 Horde booster. That seemed super suspicious to me.

At this point, I’m assuming it’s an exploit since there doesn’t seem to be any legitimate way to do this, aside from maybe being on the same server and hoping for the best.
 
DaWandaBoi said:
OK, so regarding this, I think I understand what’s happening.

I got an Alliance character boosted from level 10 to 70 today. The booster was a level 70 Horde character. When he invited me, it was as a raid group. Then, after I was summoned to the southern stone of Azure Span, the group was converted into a party. He didn’t use party sync at all, but I could see him, and he could see all the other boostees.

I was trying to figure this out because I had attempted to do it myself—I could have boosted my own character using my other account. However, I couldn’t get Chromie Time to work. My other account had a level 70 Horde character, but since I couldn't use party sync due to being different factions, I tried using a raid group instead. I attempted various things—forming a party, logging out and back in, etc.—but no matter what I did, I couldn’t get my alt into the same phase.

I tried with no Chromie Time selected, then with Dragonflight selected, and tested every possible method, but nothing worked. However, when my Alliance character got boosted, as soon as I reached level 70, I phased away from the entire party—including the level 70 Horde booster. That seemed super suspicious to me.

At this point, I’m assuming it’s an exploit since there doesn’t seem to be any legitimate way to do this, aside from maybe being on the same server and hoping for the best.
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Just curious: what activities did they do to boost you? This was outdoors? Some kind of hyperspawn? How long did it take?

Was this just a regular 70? Or geared in Bismuth Lockbox gear?

I'm curious what the current state is of boosting, given this ban wave (and unban wave). If it's nothing to do with dungeons and nothing to do with the XP debuff, then this ban wave makes even less sense. It's almost like Blizzard is unintentionally eliminating the competition.

In DF, dinging to 70 or being 70 would put you in a different phase in the outdoors zones. I never understood why but it's actually really annoying if you're grouping with people and levelling. One dings 70 and they're gone. They're still in the same place but you can't see each other. I mean, try explaining what's going on if you're a novice. Or even just figuring out why you can't see each other.

Being in a raid allows you to invite cross-faction. Converting to a party is a clever way around that. Otherwise you have to be in the same guild or be bnet friends.

But does that "solve" the phasing issues in DF outdoor zones too? Is that what you're saying?
 
cletus said:
Just curious: what activities did they do to boost you? This was outdoors? Some kind of hyperspawn? How long did it take?

Was this just a regular 70? Or geared in Bismuth Lockbox gear?

I'm curious what the current state is of boosting, given this ban wave (and unban wave). If it's nothing to do with dungeons and nothing to do with the XP debuff, then this ban wave makes even less sense. It's almost like Blizzard is unintentionally eliminating the competition.

In DF, dinging to 70 or being 70 would put you in a different phase in the outdoors zones. I never understood why but it's actually really annoying if you're grouping with people and levelling. One dings 70 and they're gone. They're still in the same place but you can't see each other. I mean, try explaining what's going on if you're a novice. Or even just figuring out why you can't see each other.

Being in a raid allows you to invite cross-faction. Converting to a party is a clever way around that. Otherwise you have to be in the same guild or be bnet friends.

But does that "solve" the phasing issues in DF outdoor zones too? Is that what you're saying?
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I just tried inviting a alliance to my raid group which is led my a horde and it says target is unfriendly so I'm guessing even with a raid you still need to have on bnet, for how long it took was 2-3 hours 10-70 in azure span outside world mob boosting a level 70 in 451 gear bear form .I still cant phase without using party sync.
 
Thank you for all this information. I'm not too keen on exploits, but I'm a sucker for figuring out how things work, so let me sum up what I know. Raids and Party Sync are mutually exclusive. Converting to raid disables and prevents Party Sync, including revoking any still active prompts and presenting a confirmation prompt if active Party Sync is detected (which it doesn't do otherwise).

At the same time, the only way I know to get a 70+ into the "timewalking campaign" layer is through Party Syncing from Chromie Time. If you enter the Dragon Isles leveling zones on a 10-69, you're automatically redirected to this layer, regardless of whether you have Chromie Time enabled or off. You can verify this by grouping up with another 10-69 and noting that you can see each other on the Dragon Isles regardless of the chars' Chromie Time settings. This is not true in any other expansion's zones. But 70+ characters go to the "normal" layer instead, and an immediate re-evaluation of this also triggers when dinging 70 specifically.

Party Sync apparently doesn't have the same "timewalking" override at the same place as the zoning code. It only seems to check whether any of the members are in Chromie Time, ignoring whatever layer or phase they are actually in. That is, if no one in the group is in Chromie Time, Party Sync won't phase a 70+ char, thinking that everyone is exactly where they should be -- which would probably be true in any other zone aside form the DF leveling ones. However, if anyone is in Chromie Time, Party Sync correctly moves everyone to the "timewalking" layer. That's really all it does, and any Chromie Time will achieve this, not just DF -- my testing suggests that all the code cares about is the party members' C_PlayerInfo.IsPlayerInChromieTime() flags.

My best guess at this point is that it may be possible to construct a macro that confirms party sync and converts to raid at the same time, using a timing/concurrency exploit similar to the xp debuff dodge macro. I did check and find that it's possible to execute these two things concurrently (C_PartyInfo.ConvertToRaid() and QuestSessionManager.StartDialog:Confirm()), but that by itself doesn't accomplish the task. Maybe I've done it in the wrong order, but then there's also that extra confirmation dialog, and then we get into the territory that I'm not all too keen on exploring further any more myself.

Either way, I don't see a way to accomplish this without some kind of exploit, either through a concurrency like the above, or by using some completely different method to get the 70 onto the "timewalking" layer. Which may also explain why boosters like this would be wearing 451 crafted pvp gear. These will probably be disposable accounts, prone to being reported out of the game by the competition. I'd also hazard a guess that they may be zone locked for the duration of the boost, as changing zones may re-evaluate their phasing and pull them back to the "normal" layer, but that's pure speculation.
 
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