Parachute Cloak: PvP power vs Agility? Rogue question.

You people sicken me, go play 90 rogue and work your brain where it matters.

This bracket doesnt require a brain.isnt it funny how our 2.7k rating arena pros like you get farmed or contained by 1k rating bads like me?How does that feel getting outplayed by a keyturning skeyer?

24s are here to stay and just like before our enchants will carry us to victory against any kind of arena pros/2k rating guys/whatever.

Also...id just use pvp power
 
You people sicken me, go play 90 rogue and work your brain where it matters.
Implying that to have fun you have to use your brain.

Are you sickened over people choosing a preferred playstyle? Assuming you're F2P (I don't stalk around the forums too much), you have to keep in mind that we pay for this game (Some F2Ps do on another account). Just be grateful Blizzard took away the time limit on trial accounts. It's not like it's the end of the world.

Also, it seems you're categorizing every 24 regardless as somebody who camps middle and doesn't give a rats ass about 20s funs. Moon Guardian 24s, at least the main group, avoids GY farming, we kill enemy GY farmers, we try not to fight mid unless we're winning, and heck, we even help the Moon Guardian F2P community with runs and randoms regularly.

Not all 24s are assholes (Though most are). I respect F2Ps since I have one and I know it's frustrating to put hours into gearing a F2P and then get camped all night by a HPally 24 premade.
 
Most 20s don't give a flying fadoodle whether you GY farm or not, just get the hell out of the bracket and stop making excuses that justify your stay. What I'm getting out of this thread is; I don't GY farm, but should I ambush the 20s for 900, or should I ambush them for 950? Also, I have a p2p account, but it boggles my mind that people actually pay 15 bucks a month to play the garbage that is 24 is beyond me, @ least try to do something productive to prove to me that you're not all hopeless. Ofc some of you are nice people, but you're really going under playing like this, no respect from me.

A few months ago I did decide to make 24, and the conclusion was that it was SO boring, that I only ever played it before bed when I wanted to wind down. The char is shelved atm and I'm planning on going to 39.(Which is where all of you should be going)
 
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Most 20s don't give a flying fadoodle whether you GY farm or not, just get the hell out of the bracket and stop making excuses that justify your stay. What I'm getting out of this thread is; I don't GY farm, but should I ambush the 20s for 900, or should I ambush them for 950? Also, I have a p2p account, but it boggles my mind that people actually pay 15 bucks a month to play the garbage that is 24 is beyond me, @ least try to do something productive to prove to me that you're not all hopeless. Ofc some of you are nice people, but you're really going under playing like this, no respect from me.

A few months ago I did decide to make 24, and the conclusion was that it was SO boring, that I only ever played it before bed when I wanted to wind down. The char is shelved atm and I'm planning on going to 39.(Which is where all of you should be going)

You're implying that we only pay 15 dollars to play one bracket? If I wanted to play only 1 bracket, I'd stay on my F2P. Boring is a subjective term. Some find it boring, some don't. Also, rogues aren't as deadly as they once were though they're still formidable.

Also, dude. Take a chill pill. You're obviously upset and angry about this. It isn't that big of a deal unless they're the annoying 24s who act all "F2P SUX /LOL" who also farm.

From my understanding, there were 24s around before F2P accounts got unlimited time, though they were an incredibly small community back then. Keep in mind, like I said, we pay for this game, not you.

Trial accounts were meant for sampling the game. I don't think Blizzard made trial accounts have unlimited time with twinking in mind, either. Although they're not 'against it' in the sense they'll stop people, they're against it in the sense that they are losing money for something one can do in game. I once asked for something on my F2P feral druid and they told me that F2P twinking wasn't intentional at all, though they'll still help us, and they actually had talk about removing the unlimited time to encourage these twinks to go back to other brackets, though they decided to keep unlimited time in once they realized some F2Ps can't afford the actual game.

I only play on my 24s if I have literally nothing to do, or if I'm stressed out IRL (It makes me feel better to play a 24 or 10-14 in experience on (Not the glitch, though) when I'm upset, hence why I've been on my 24 rogue a lot in BGs after four close cousins passed away). I enjoy my feral druid but I'm really discouraged on gearing him since it took me forever to get the heirloom chest piece, and when I recently found out you can link trials to your actual full account for mounts, I got really ticked since I wanted my mounts and companions, though I didn't want to work on a new F2P.

On stealthies, I try to play almost entirely objectively without killing a F2P unless it's a healer or FC or a GY farmer, but on my non-stealthies, I have to be forced to kill F2Ps in mid to get to the objectives.

I understand your rage though, man. Sometimes it really is unfair since 24s can be game changers, though it has to be a bunch of 24s or a REALLY good 24 to make that big of a difference.

I respect the bracket enough to the point if I see that there are many 24s on my team, I'll leave the group and go on my F2P.
 
Pvp power has nothing to do with resilience. All PvP power does is increase damage. Resilience decreases damage. They are separate entities and have nothing to do with each other.
 
As for the F2P and 24 argument, it needs to just STOP! It is obviously getting nowhere and is just a quick way to get a thread locked. Just STOP seriously!
 
I have a question for you all. I have two parachute cloaks in my inventory that I'm both keeping. One has 16 PvP power whereas the other has 12 agility.

Looking at rogue armories, most rogues have the PvP power enchant, but I raise this arguement. Though the PvP power enchant is a raise in attack power in PvP against player targets, since it gives 6 more damage whereas the agility gives 2 more damage, the agility also gives two more dodge and crit. Albeit not a lot, being able to crit more often will do more damage than a 6 damage boost, no?

I may be completely going full retard here, but this is a valid concern of mine. DEBATE. >:D

If we are strictly talking about damage increases, then pvp power is the best way to go in this case. +16 pvp power scales better than +12 agility at level 24.

However, that doesn't mean that +16 pvp power is the best enchant, and cause for taking engineering and parachute cloak. There is another benefit to using a different cloak and a different enchant and another profession, such as survivability. As we all know, rogues lost a lot of survivability in 5.0 especially at lower levels. If you have a pocket healer, then you can give up survivability for offensive power, but we also know that's not always the case.
 
eh 24s is where its at!!!... go kill yourself trying to get into the brawlers guild in the 90s bracket, and yeah pvp power is based primarly for pvp. But if you like solid numbers and doge agility is your friend.
 
maybe for rogues the pvp power fould be best, cuz of you allready have 100% crit on ambush, and with biss gear you should have about 40% crit(or more), and rogues have shit lot of dodge with bis gear.
but if you look from a ww-monk, feral or hunter i would preffer 12 agi, becuase of that extra crit & dodge.
been thinking alot about this myself, and i play WW-monk, and found 12agi best for me.
I dont say that my post is the right answar, but thats what i think is the answar xD
Good luck !
 
maybe for rogues the pvp power fould be best, cuz of you allready have 100% crit on ambush, and with biss gear you should have about 40% crit(or more), and rogues have shit lot of dodge with bis gear.
but if you look from a ww-monk, feral or hunter i would preffer 12 agi, becuase of that extra crit & dodge.
been thinking alot about this myself, and i play WW-monk, and found 12agi best for me.
I dont say that my post is the right answar, but thats what i think is the answar xD
Good luck !

i dont think ambush is 100% crit anymore it used to be that way but it changed
 

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