paladins are gamebreaking in 19, not hunters

Holy Paladins are meant to heal.



Hunters can't kill Holy Paladins; and they should never be able to, that's a casters job i.e Arcane Mage. If you're moaning about Paladins, roll a Mage; fuck X# of Holy Pals up with a long ass silence and laugh. Then get instagibbed by Hunters in midfield.



Then you'll be moaning about Hunters.



You can't please everyone. But yes, Holy Paladins are still OP, Hunters are still OP.



Hunters are the priority, they stop more classes/specs functioning properly in BGs than Holy Paladins do.
 
Jericho said:
I have ran into pretty much everything in my time, crappy teammates, terrible comps and even playing down a couple guys. What I have seen is this, its the player behind the toon that makes the difference. If your a pro your gonna play like a pro no matter what class you play. Its all about the mind set of players and field awareness and having that killer instinct. To few players seem to fit that mold these days. Thats been the only problem I have seen.



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never said "holy paladins" are OP



btw, i also have between 2 factions: 1 druid, 1 shaman, 2 hunters, 2 rogues.



jericho, joneffer, gracob, and etc. etc paladins. you guys have made some interesting comments and lol comments in BGs concerning holy or prot paladins. you need to step up, be honest and say them in this forum.



some other players in this thread and on TI have make some comments in BG chats concerning paladins prot and holy...step up....



- amazing no one says: they got two hunters and we have one at the near start of a BG we are gonna lose. have seen it said/posted in bg chat concerning paladins



- for the mage comment

hunters are casters, hunters can't kill a h-p pal 1 vs 1, well in 19, either can a mage



- when a paladin in in a BG is solo FC and flattens 2-3 twink rogues, and lol brags in chat, you guys never read? you never see in BG chat where it announces death, punkrogueA has died, punkrogueB has just died, but only look at DPS at the end? even funnier when paladin had debuff



- no hunter kills any class in 2 seconds.....that is a lie. my hunter died yesterday by single rogues in 1 vs 1. happens at times when one class has some CD's not ready and other class does



- no hunter freezes you, your memory is fading, having flashbacks of a bracket that is not 14-19 and a ability never in 19.



- paladins meant to heal, yeah...they get a seal, cs, hoj, 2 exo's most the time you are pretty well dead. i have a rogue config that uses duel LS along with using recup, i can kill them that way 1 vs 1, but it's a hella long fight
 
shanker said:
never said "holy paladins" are OP



btw, i also have between 2 factions: 1 druid, 1 shaman, 2 hunters, 2 rogues.



jericho, joneffer, and etc. etc paladins. you guys have made some interesting comments and lol comments in BGs concerning holy or prot paladins. you need to step up, be honest and say them in this forum.



- for the mage comment

hunters are casters, hunters can't kill a h-p pal 1 vs 1, well in 19, either can a mage



- when a paladin in in a BG is solo FC and flattens 2-3 twink rogues, and lol brags in chat, you guys never read? you never see in BG chat where it announces death, punkrogueA has died, punkrogueB has just died, but only look at DPS at the end? even funnier when paladin had debuff



- no hunter kills any class in 2 seconds.....that is a lie. my hunter died yesterday by single rogues in 1 vs 1. happens at times when one class has some CD's not ready and other class does



- no hunter freezes you, your memory is fading, having flashbacks of a bracket that is not 14-19 and a ability never in 19.



- paladins meant to heal, yeah...they get a seal, cs, hoj, 2 exo's most the time you are pretty well dead. i have a rogue config that uses duel LS along with using recup, i can kill them that way 1 vs 1, but it's a hella long fight



retards please, do you even play this bracket?
 
This thread is insanely funny, half of the comments are people joking I hope. For their sakes
 
Karok said:
But not indefinitely surely? If a healer could never die 1v1, I wouldn't call it balanced?



No, there is ofc a limit. However if a ret produces 150dps but a healer cannot reliably heal throught hat, taking into account burst as well then we have a problem.
 
Let me break this down for you.



Hunters shouldnt kill Pallys

Hunters should kill Mages

Mages should kill Pallys

Mages shouldnt kill Hunters



Hunter+Mage= Everything is dead
 
Redner said:
Let me break this down for you.



Hunters shouldnt kill Pallys

Hunters should kill Mages

Mages should kill Pallys

Mages shouldnt kill Hunters



Hunter+Mage= Everything is dead



That lays it out mighty fine.
 
shanker said:
- when a paladin in in a BG is solo FC and flattens 2-3 twink rogues, and lol brags in chat, you guys never read? you never see in BG chat where it announces death, punkrogueA has died, punkrogueB has just died, but only look at DPS at the end? even funnier when paladin had debuff



And you've never seen a hunter flatten 2-3 rogues? Seriously?



While I'll agree maybe hunters and paladins need a small nerf it's more about whose behind the keyboard than the class if equally geared.



Kore nametooshort said:
No class should be able to kill any healer 1v1



^Smart point, not including burst I assume. Otherwise stupid.











Did this thread just make half the people on this site retards?
 
shanker said:
- amazing no one says: they got two hunters and we have one at the near start of a BG we are gonna lose. have seen it said/posted in bg chat concerning paladins



I love how, everything you write about Paladins excludes Ret. Ret is insanely weak at the moment. Prot and Holy shouldn't be able to die 1v1, and should be able to tank and shrug/heal off 2-3 attackers. Obviously not for long period of time, but for long enough for team mates to arrive and assist. Idk how bad your team mates/team comps were, but 1 simple interupt is all it takes.



shanker said:
- for the mage comment

hunters are casters, hunters can't kill a h-p pal 1 vs 1, well in 19, either can a mage



Hunters are not casters, they are (Ranged) Physical Damage. As for the 1v1 Mage comment, they can lock a Holy Pal out of a 2v1 they'd have easily survived vs any other class. 1v1s don't matter.



shanker said:
- when a paladin in in a BG is solo FC and flattens 2-3 twink rogues, and lol brags in chat, you guys never read? you never see in BG chat where it announces death, punkrogueA has died, punkrogueB has just died, but only look at DPS at the end? even funnier when paladin had debuff



Awful unfinished Rogues without LB/AGM/Insignia, yeah 3 of them shouldn't be able to beat a fully geared Prot/Holy Pal. Perhaps Prot shouldn't have so much burst output, I'd agree with you on that.



shanker said:
- no hunter kills any class in 2 seconds.....that is a lie. my hunter died yesterday by single rogues in 1 vs 1. happens at times when one class has some CD's not ready and other class does



If people blow longer than 2min CDs in 1v1s midfield in WSG, they're awful. Hunters do the most damage/have highest chance of killing anything when all CDs are down, simply due to mass output.



shanker said:
- paladins meant to heal, yeah...they get a seal, cs, hoj, 2 exo's most the time you are pretty well dead. i have a rogue config that uses duel LS along with using recup, i can kill them that way 1 vs 1, but it's a hella long fight



Trinket the HoJ, walk away. Don't commit to a fight you can't win; Paladins should have survivability/self heals. Thats what a Paladin is, a Plate wearing character capable of all 3 roles.



Kore nametooshort said:
No class should be able to kill any healer 1v1



Yes.



Karok said:
But not indefinitely surely? If a healer could never die 1v1, I wouldn't call it balanced?



It's 1v1, duels aren't balanced. Healers should have enough Mp5/Spirit and Healing to survive anything 1v1.



Otherwise how the hell is 3v3 going to pan out in retrospect. Shouldn't be super easy to not die 1v1, but it shouldn't be hard.



Obviously retards that let themselves get too low should die; should be put down.
 

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