Non-BoA Shammy?

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HI! Ok 1st off yeah I know this isnt the best OP as *&$@&*^ class/idea. but so i dont really need to hear about all that. What im looking for is a BiS chardev or armory for a non-BoA Shammy. also some spec ideas would be great! thanks!
 
The BoA Mace is a must have. If you have that you could manage without the Chest/Shoulders/Head peices, although I don't encourage it!
 
I have every BoA in game, on another server, but I just want to mess around with a Shammy on my "old" server with some buddys that arnt that into twinking, so i dont really wanna grind out any more BoAs.
 
same build as a rogue, use 2 butcher's cleavers from SFK



alliance fang chest piece

horde has several chest pieces
 
I was thinking enh sense i already have Forman's but idk, My main is enh/resto so i was thinking of ele just for something new. So lets go with ele.
 
Afker said:
I was thinking enh sense i already have Forman's but idk, My main is enh/resto so i was thinking of ele just for something new. So lets go with ele.



Casters are pretty damn gimp without at least a BoA wep.
 
He doesnt need that much stam considering a BiS one only has 1301. Armor of Fang with 100hp. Rest i agree with, except race.
 
ah didnt know armor of the fang was still in the game ^^



Also he has a 2nd agm on which should be swapped with trink appropriately
 
imo ele sham is the best class with non boa gear, because you don't need spell power to shock/shear/purge/thunderstorm. also, a lot of non-boa gear has a ton of stam so you'll have decent HP.



if you're really missing the spell power, then get sp enchants on bracer/gloves instead of haste like most people get.



don't forget, eventually you can get blessed hammer of grace if you pvp enough, 2725 honor isn't even that much.



honestly, missing out on enchants is way worse than missing out on BOA gear, except maybe in the case of the helm. however if you have a lucky fishing hat, in some situations it is almost as good.
 
wtf? Are u a ****ing retard? Nobody uses 10haste okay? And the best spec to do non boa is enhance. Dont comment on a class u dont play, or when u comment, do ur research.



Btw Spellpower affects Shocks and TS so noob iz noob.
 
Megingjard said:
imo ele sham is the best class with non boa gear, because you don't need spell power to shock/shear/purge/thunderstorm. also, a lot of non-boa gear has a ton of stam so you'll have decent HP.



if you're really missing the spell power, then get sp enchants on bracer/gloves instead of haste like most people get.



don't forget, eventually you can get blessed hammer of grace if you pvp enough, 2725 honor isn't even that much.



honestly, missing out on enchants is way worse than missing out on BOA gear, except maybe in the case of the helm. however if you have a lucky fishing hat, in some situations it is almost as good.



BoA caster mace gives 42 spellpower that's almost a quarter of most ele's SP. It makes a very noticeable difference. Ele is a poor choice until you get the mace at least.
 
Well I guess ill roll enh till I get some honor then switch to ele, I mean a few weeks should be enough to get the mace. Thanks everyone
 
Mnkey said:
wtf? Are u a ****ing retard? Nobody uses 10haste okay? And the best spec to do non boa is enhance. Dont comment on a class u dont play, or when u comment, do ur research.



Btw Spellpower affects Shocks and TS so noob iz noob.



lol uh, of course spellpower affects the damage of shocks and TS, i was clearly talking about the utility of the spells. IMO ele shaman has the most utility without BOAs because your main job is to purge/shear/shock/TS, and the damage of shock and TS is negligible compared to the other players on your team. you can reduce melee attack speed / flameshock rogues / knock people off ledges / roof while missing 42 spellpower. i even forgot to mention the fact that earthbind/str of earth/searing totem are all the same without BOAs.



the point is ele sham is a utility based class, you can be extremely useful without boas and still kill people with the burst damage of LB/ES combo.





enchants can give you a TON of stats. he is rolling on a server with friends so i assume he will be able to obtain enchants. if you didn't have enchants, IMO it would be worse or at the very least equally as bad as having no BOAs, especially since if he plays a lot he could eventually buy the honor mace or possibly save up even more honor to convert to justice points for the badge mace.





it may be true that enhance suffers the least from having no BOA gears, but i would say ele is clearly the better addition to a team because of TS and not being kited and 0 to death'd by everyone. and he did say he enjoyed playing a caster. just sayin'
 
Mnkey said:
wtf? Are u a ****ing retard? Nobody uses 10haste okay? And the best spec to do non boa is enhance. Dont comment on a class u dont play, or when u comment, do ur research.



Btw Spellpower affects Shocks and TS so noob iz noob.



Sir, you need to calm down.
 
Ele shaman without BoA :



130 Spell power



12% Crit



1200 Hp



Sound good!



Sure thunderstorm can be quite useful but you can still use purge and wind shear as enh

Enhancement is the best choice for a non BoA character (Shaman), if you can at least get the mace tho ele can be viable
 
Nakedplumber said:
Ele shaman without BoA :



130 Spell power



12% Crit



1200 Hp



Sound good!



not sure where you're getting these numbers



going from boa to non-boa shammy you lose 3% crit and 50 spell power, but you gain 40 hp



it is clearly true that enhance suffers less from not having BOA gear compared to ele, but your team suffers more because ele shaman are way more useful. TS can be game changing especially in pugs. mediocre enhance dps (pretty sure they do the least DPS and are the most easily kited melee class) is not because in every case it would be better if you were any other melee class. also he said he wanted to be a caster and i was making a case for reasons to not just roll enhance because numbers say it's better. numbers != reality
 

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