Nobundu #1 Fire Kitty Video!

Trialkiller said:
he plays feral, that's not a crutch? nice that you're trying to defend him or whatever but this video doesn't display any level of skill on his part, and his lack of useful addon's etc. showcases that he probably doesn't have much awareness.
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What you're responding to had next to nothing to do with OP.

To reiterate: some new players don't even know about keybinds, much less addons, and players with addons could easily be better than those newbies. The point is that the cap is higher when you don't rely on your UI / addons, etc.
 
Patrol said:
What you're responding to had next to nothing to do with OP.

To reiterate: some new players don't even know about keybinds, much less addons, and players with addons could easily be better than those newbies. The point is that the cap is higher when you don't rely on your UI / addons, etc.
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i guess it's all relative, ignorance to what's available to improve gameplay is going to be ignorance no matter how you put it. not to say you're a nub if you don't use addons but there's an obvious gap
 
Trialkiller said:
i guess it's all relative, ignorance to what's available to improve gameplay is going to be ignorance no matter how you put it. not to say you're a nub if you don't use addons but there's an obvious gap
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For instance, the addons to the extent: "XXX is casting XXX at XXX" can provide information that a player wouldn't otherwise have. But when players rely on that, they play in a different league than someone who makes decisions without that information. Without those aids, there is a higher cap on what the player has to pull out of their own ass in order to excel.
 
Epic video
 
Patrol said:
Counter-hate: if you rely on addons / nameplates / bloated UI, etc. then you're a handicapped player. People who play without are simply in a different league.
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Dont wanna argue here but Raidframes and Nameplates are given by blizzard. So are Classcolors in both.
Using none of it just shows that you dont rly care or dont have to care (why not use raidframes or mark healers and stay in range of healers instead haveing them chase you?).

Talking about Addons esp. BGT is a diff. Topic. I for myself hated it in the old days to switch statistics-tab on, see who is enemy, /tar Player X and repeat several times.

PS: I get your point but it doesnt rly match that vid imo.
 
Patrol said:
Counter-hate: if you rely on addons / nameplates / bloated UI, etc. then you're a handicapped player. People who play without are simply in a different league. Some are worse than you, but the best are better than the best who crutch on UI.

OT: Thanks for making a video, but it certainly doesn't make me want to play the bracket.
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Totally agree man! Learn to click your spells!!!!
 
i like how you pop drums everytime with exhaustion debuff.
/spit
 
Patrol said:
What you're responding to had next to nothing to do with OP.

To reiterate: some new players don't even know about keybinds, much less addons, and players with addons could easily be better than those newbies. The point is that the cap is higher when you don't rely on your UI / addons, etc.
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I love counting up to 300 seconds for my opponents bubbles in combat XD
 
Spiriel said:
why not use raidframes or mark healers and stay in range of healers instead haveing them chase you?

Talking about Addons esp. BGT is a diff. Topic. I for myself hated it in the old days to switch statistics-tab on, see who is enemy, /tar Player X and repeat several times.

PS: I get your point but it doesnt rly match that vid imo.
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You don't need raidframes, nameplates, or markers in order to stay in range of heals. You don't have to know every enemy before you get in combat. I'm glad you get my point, but I don't think you get it entirely.

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[MENTION=7013]Shamatix[/MENTION]
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I'm not saying the OP is good. I'm not saying people who rely heavily on UI / nameplates / addons are bad. I'm saying that when you don't rely on them, you have to pull as much as possible of that same information out of your own ass, and still make decisions at a competitive pace to the players who got that info from addons / UI.

As a healer in an organized midclash, sure, there's not much of a feasible alternative to raidframes.

When you don't have nameplates, you have to learn 40 yards without the ease of a glaring red bar popping up. You can't see through walls, so you have to decide where it's likely players will go in WSG bases. When you rely on IB to make decisions, it's harder to play as well without it. EDIT FOR LEEK: It's not that hard to get an idea of 5 min, to develop a decent internal clock, and even without the exact seconds down you can play well.
 
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Patrol said:
You don't need raidframes, nameplates, or markers in order to stay in range of heals. You don't have to know every enemy before you get in combat. I'm glad you get my point, but I don't think you get it entirely.

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[MENTION=7013]Shamatix[/MENTION]
[MENTION=25100]Leek[/MENTION] -

I'm not saying the OP is good. I'm not saying people who rely heavily on UI / nameplates / addons are bad. I'm saying that when you don't rely on them, you have to pull as much as possible of that same information out of your own ass, and still make decisions at a competitive pace to the players who got that info addons / UI.

As a healer in an organized midclash, sure, there's not much of a feasible alternative to raidframes.

When you don't have nameplates, you have to learn 40 yards without the ease of a glaring red bar popping up. You can't see through walls, so you have to decide where it's likely players will go in WSG bases. When you rely on IB to make decisions, you don't know how to play as well without it.
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I don't have a single add-on as well lol I count each of my enemies cooldowns
 
Patrol said:
EDIT FOR LEEK: It's not that hard to get an idea of 5 min, to develop a decent internal clock, and even without the exact seconds down you can play well. Dense.
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which is what I'm doing... I don't count out loud lol that would look weird
 
Patrol said:
You don't need raidframes, nameplates, or markers in order to stay in range of heals. You don't have to know every enemy before you get in combat. I'm glad you get my point, but I don't think you get it entirely.

[MENTION=25779]Trialkiller[/MENTION]
[MENTION=7013]Shamatix[/MENTION]
[MENTION=25100]Leek[/MENTION] -

I'm not saying the OP is good. I'm not saying people who rely heavily on UI / nameplates / addons are bad. I'm saying that when you don't rely on them, you have to pull as much as possible of that same information out of your own ass, and still make decisions at a competitive pace to the players who got that info from addons / UI.

As a healer in an organized midclash, sure, there's not much of a feasible alternative to raidframes.

When you don't have nameplates, you have to learn 40 yards without the ease of a glaring red bar popping up. You can't see through walls, so you have to decide where it's likely players will go in WSG bases. When you rely on IB to make decisions, it's harder to play as well without it.
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Trust me I get what you mean, I just don't feel like this is an argument that needs to be had. I look at his gameplay video and shake my head at how much, not even just addons, that he doesn't take advantage of to make his gameplay better. Not that you need anything to global f2p's as a feral anyways...

You're suggesting addons "carry" people, they're just a tool to make obvious things more obvious and less obvious things a little more obvious. I'm sure any half decent player eventually learns to notice stuff they use addons to track, it's not like interruption trackers are fly hacks or something... not using addons / changing your settings on raid-frames etc. doesn't make you more hardcore or a better player.

Stop trying to drag me into this argument please, OP is bad at the game AND he plays a 29 feral. Enough said.
 
Patrol said:
You don't need raidframes, nameplates, or markers in order to stay in range of heals. You don't have to know every enemy before you get in combat. I'm glad you get my point, but I don't think you get it entirely.
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You can deactivate Nameplates as well. Count your own remaining Health and Target get a highlight. Also seeing his Health is a disadvantage too.
You are more into RP than the usual PvPer it seems. Also even on Arenaservers ppl use Nameplates and Raidframes-always had always will.
 
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