New way to fix holy paladins

[Grabco]

If holy paladins simply didn't spend any talent points that would give them a pretty fair nerf. they would still have WoG, flash of light and holy light but no self heal talent or holy shock.

 

[Chanka]

Won't happen.

 

[Tauntz]

One of the 4.0.6 changes include;

- Protector of the Innocent heals for 30% less.



Not enough, but it's a start.

 

[Grabco]

Won't happen.

I realize that, but at one point there was an agreement for the 20-29 bracket that hunters wouldn't use an ability. This would just be a way to test if h pallies could withstand a nerf of this kind. Not suggesting by any means that this should be implemented.

 

[MARCO]

If holy paladins simply didn't spend any talent points that would give them a pretty fair nerf. they would still have WoG, flash of light and holy light but no self heal talent or holy shock.

I see a couple problems with this. If holy paladins don't get Holy Shock, then the only way to build Holy Power is with crusader strike which means WoG becomes much more difficult to use. I think for 1 v 1 that would be a fine change, but in WSG when trying to keep 3+ people alive (where WoG can really help when the other team changes targets suddenly) I usually don't have time to run around crusader striking and usually have to keep healing. The other problem I see is that without choosing the holy tree, paladins lose most of their mana regen.



I think it might be better to allow paladins to choose the holy tree, but not spend any of their talents.



If we come up with a consensus on balancing holy paladins, I would embrace it.

 

[Kore nametooshort]

I see a couple problems with this. If holy paladins don't get Holy Shock, then the only way to build Holy Power is with crusader strike which means WoG becomes much more difficult to use. I think for 1 v 1 that would be a fine change, but in WSG when trying to keep 3+ people alive (where WoG can really help when the other team changes targets suddenly) I usually don't have time to run around crusader striking and usually have to keep healing. The other problem I see is that without choosing the holy tree, paladins lose most of their mana regen.



I think it might be better to allow paladins to choose the holy tree, but not spend any of their talents.



If we come up with a consensus on balancing holy paladins, I would embrace it.

put one point in Arbiter of the Light then.

 

[Grabco]

put one point in Arbiter of the Light then.

or just the non-pti talents. Still doesn't help the fact that holy paladins can build up a three charge WoG out of combat.

 

[Kore nametooshort]

or just the non-pti talents. Still doesn't help the fact that holy paladins can build up a three charge WoG out of combat.

Missing out on illumination and meditiation might be a little harsh. Try it out for a few games though, see how it goes.

 

[Jericho]

Hey now I like my Holy Paladins. They are not as bad as they were.

 

[Kore nametooshort]

Hey now I like my Holy Paladins. They are not as bad as they were.

from one extreme to the other

 

[Kipale]

Hey now I like my Holy Paladins. They are not as bad as they were.

I liked them with only holy light and LoH

 

[Evade]

With 29s, the community was very tight-knit. aka they always hung out in vent and irc. however with 19s. we have a lot of noobs

 

[Llare]

FoL healing reduced by 40%

Cannot gain Holy Charges out of combat



Fix't

 

[Pizza]

With 29s, the community was very tight-knit. aka they always hung out in vent and irc. however with 19s. we have a lot of noobs

They were so tight-knit that there was always drama and the bracket died out. Anyways, we'll just have to see how Holy Paladins are next patch.

 

[Grabco]

FoL healing reduced by 40%

Cannot gain Holy Charges out of combat



Fix't

What is your source on this information please, I can't find it

 

[Evade]

What is your source on this information please, I can't find it

those are suggested changes. not actual changes

 

[Rivfader]

My suggestion is to continue playing your classes to their potential and don't constantly reroll fotm. Class balance is always cyclical. Self imposed bans, like the AS ban in 29s, do nothing but ward off new players. Pizza has it right, 29s were so tight-knit with so many bracket rules that it was intimidating for new players who just wanted to test the waters.

 

[Bankbeauty]

Go go, Nerf Holy so they all go Prot. I know we all enjoy Prot Dps Input, Counterspell ability and high survivability.

 

[Silinrul]

They were so tight-knit that there was always drama and the bracket died out.

Sounds familiar...

 

[Bankbeauty]

They were so tight-knit that there was always drama and the bracket died out.

Not their fault if most of the noobs go and make 19s twink. Let's not lie about half of the 19s IF NOT MORE, are simply noob that have no experience in tiwnking or on this game. When you go into higher bracket this problem litterally disapear.