New Horde Priest:

Advisor's Ring

5mp5 to bracers if you're serious biz about regen.
 
Crilicilyn said:
man ur right i 4got bout bracers thanx! lol >.<
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I literally cannot stress how stupid it is to stack mp5. You lose far too many stats for it to be an acceptable build. Oh, and never use that wand.
 
Mealstrom said:
I literally cannot stress how stupid it is to stack mp5. You lose far too many stats for it to be an acceptable build. Oh, and never use that wand.
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No offence but that looks pretty good to me, the only Stats the toon really looses is from the rings. and actually that wand is the best wand for stats. why would someone want a high dps wand if they never use it to attack? think before speaking.



Maybe instead of trying to Troll everything and put everyone down put some advice out there, maybe some examples of what you think a acceptable priest would be?
 
Tunkie said:
and actually that wand is the best wand for stats. why would someone want a high dps wand if they never use it to attack? think before speaking.
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Why wouldnt he be attacking? think before speaking.
 
priests should be wanding when theyre not running or cast tbh. Also MP5 is an excellent stat, i value it at about 1mp5=2.4 int. Do not confuse mp5 with mana regen.

If i were you i would not use either ring of concentration, use advisors ring instead of 1 of them, its better in every respect inc mp5 and either lavishly jeweled, or a seal instead of the other. 5mp5 is a very tasty enchant, better than 7 int or 9 stam imo.

If you miss the hp from 9 stam then swap out the robe chant to 150 hp and use 5mp5 on bracers, you will end up with more stats overall but slightly less mp5.

You may have to change your playstyle slightly, but if you are a little more mana efficient and try to make fights last long you will have an edge on int priests, however you can overstretch yourself in burst healing situations if you're not careful.
 
i neglected to mention this is a dispell spam offensive priest setup, i should get incredible efficiency w/ this. IT IS NOT MY ONLY SET lol. I hope that clears somethings up =D
 
Tunkie said:
No offence but that looks pretty good to me, the only Stats the toon really looses is from the rings. and actually that wand is the best wand for stats. why would someone want a high dps wand if they never use it to attack? think before speaking.



Maybe instead of trying to Troll everything and put everyone down put some advice out there, maybe some examples of what you think a acceptable priest would be?
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he was giving his advice..



think before speaking
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Oh, and never use that wand.
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and actually that wand is the best wand for stats. why would someone want a high dps wand if they never use it to attack? think before speaking.
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Why wouldnt he be attacking? think before speaking.
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priests should be wanding when theyre not running or cast tbh
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Weapon switch?



Mp5 is pretty good, and if your playing as a pocket healer its better. If you dont have staff of the friar with 20 spirit and other set your missing out on uptime that can regen faster than running around with just mp5.
 
Tunkie said:
No offence but that looks pretty good to me, the only Stats the toon really looses is from the rings. and actually that wand is the best wand for stats. why would someone want a high dps wand if they never use it to attack? think before speaking.



Maybe instead of trying to Troll everything and put everyone down put some advice out there, maybe some examples of what you think a acceptable priest would be?
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Calm down big boy, ok let me resume my "trolling". First of all let's assume that I know more about a 19 priest than anyone else, kk...stay with me now chief. Now people think mp5 is the shizzle fo rizzle because it gives a bit of incombat regen. What people seem to forget about is that because they're losing so much SP that they have to heal at a MUCH higher pace(whether it be 2s, 3s, 5s, or wsg), which destroys their out of combat regen. If someone actually did some statstics on how much healing a priest could put out under certain amounts of pressure on his ally/allies, they would find that in many situations the +4/+6 stats on chest, sp on gloves/bracers guy is able to retain his mana much more efficently.

Now on top of mp5 stacking arguably fucking up your regen and making your heals terrible, we have to think about survivability. Priests are very susceptible to a being bursted down. Now let's say you're doing a wsg or 3v3/5v5, and lookie this...you're the one getting focused. You'll almost definitly drop in the course of the match, making all of that mp5 bullshit go to waste. However if you had that sp/stam/crit(int) from the chest/bracers/gloves you'd be a much less viable target, and though there is a chance you'd still drop, tossing out much larger renews, heals, and slightly stronger bubbles(it sorta goes with sp I believe >.<) would greatly increase your chances of living, and even if you did fall, it would've taken the opposing team considerably longer.

All in all I have nothing against mp5 as a stat, but I would never trade off something like 15sp on bracers for 5mp5(?), however if it was something like 11 mp5 against 15sp, I might consider it. As for his build, if he really wants to stack mp5, then obviously put the Advisors ring in place of one of the 2mp5 rings and go with it. However if you ever use that wand over Gravestone, in any aspect of 19s I will consider you a moron like so many others.
 
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No dude its a good wand your just to small minded to realize its a great stat stick when coming out of the gates for arena or simply focus/pocket healing in wsg. Its really fucking simple to swap weapon's.
 
This thread is full of fail.



If you don't wand, go play hunter. or in traffic.





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And the power of mp5 is completely dependent on how much time will be spent between mana-refills. If you think you'll be engaged for a certain amount of time, you can calculate how mp5 will compare to straight up intellect. Simple as that. It's either better or worse.
 
Also, that chardev build is really bad.



The rings of concentration are not worth it. At all. One should be Advisor's Band, of course, and the other one should almost always be either Sylvanas or Lavishly Jeweled.



Also, I always tell people to watch out for 'enchant mixing' - every time I see it, it seems, people do it wrong. In this case, it's having 7mp5 to chest and 9 stam to bracers. Math time!



If you want to get a mix of stam and mp5, then it would be statistically more beneficial to swap these enchants:

Chest enchant: 150 HP vs. 7mp5 = 21.5 HP vs. 1mp5

Bracer enchant: 90 HP vs. 5mp5 = 18 HP vs. 1mp5.



What that means is that you're giving up more hp, per mp5, mixing enchants this way.



If you were to switch these enchants, you'd net an extra 60 HP for the cost of 2mp5.

So either do that, or just go all the way (7mp5 and 5mp5.)



gg
 
Quara said:
Also, that chardev build is really bad.



The rings of concentration are not worth it. At all. One should be Advisor's Band, of course, and the other one should almost always be either Sylvanas or Lavishly Jeweled.



Also, I always tell people to watch out for 'enchant mixing' - every time I see it, it seems, people do it wrong. In this case, it's having 7mp5 to chest and 9 stam to bracers. Math time!



If you want to get a mix of stam and mp5, then it would be statistically more beneficial to swap these enchants:

Chest enchant: 150 HP vs. 7mp5 = 21.5 HP vs. 1mp5

Bracer enchant: 90 HP vs. 5mp5 = 18 HP vs. 1mp5.



What that means is that you're giving up more hp, per mp5, mixing enchants this way.



If you were to switch these enchants, you'd net an extra 60 HP for the cost of 2mp5.

So either do that, or just go all the way (7mp5 and 5mp5.)



gg
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He meant for mp5 on bracers too. But yeah it's funny when people do that, actually I believe Miragedz had a fucked up build like that.
 
before you go and stack MP5 you might wanna wait till 3.3 or if blizzard realizes whats going to get the 200% mana/health regen: spirit or Mp5
 
reessagny said:
before you go and stack MP5 you might wanna wait till 3.3 or if blizzard realizes whats going to get the 200% mana/health regen: spirit or Mp5
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Neither, for 19s at least. The highest lvl to get a boost to regen is lvl 15 and only lvl 1s get 200%
 
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