Nerfed prot paladins.

Arknoodle said:
You still generate vengence from whacking on ppl, just not from getting hit
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i think it means that vengeance just doesnt work anymore in PvP (which is fine imho, Prot, and Pala in general is already a faceroll. It just kinda goes below the radar because Huntards break any resemblance of balance in the bracket)



As with the last Hunter Buff, i still dont understand why they dont 'fix' it with endgame talents/mastery rating etc if its an endgame problem
 
Aradiel said:
The issue is less about hunters and more about the fact that Blizz ignore anything that isn't endgame, despite their promises to the contrary. All they have to do is improve scaling. That's it. They will never do that though because they don't care.
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Yep. They could have just as easily only changed the higher ranks of Aspect of the Hawk insulating the lower brackets from changes for end game. But they didn't they used a broad brush to paint as usual.



Yes I understand it's only a 14AP bonus. But really, it's like giving tax breaks to billionaires. It's wrong as a matter of principal.



Bob
 
Geist said:
i think it means that vengeance just doesnt work anymore in PvP (which is fine imho, Prot, and Pala in general is already a faceroll. It just kinda goes below the radar because Huntards break any resemblance of balance in the bracket)



As with the last Hunter Buff, i still dont understand why they dont 'fix' it with endgame talents/mastery rating etc if its an endgame problem
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No you all are wrong lol I've been testing this patch on ptr and in battlegrounds and in arenas my prot warrior still generates vengance. Ill SS it for you laterz
 
Either way, whether hunters gain a little AP or a lot, the point I think most people are concerned with:

Hunters are getting a buff.

Hunters can already afk and do a **** ton of damage as BM simply from their pet playing the game for them. Survival, if you aren't a pally or covered with a bubble, they can have 600 health and still knock your ass out with an explosive shot, or simply spamming a focus bar worth of arcane shot. Now I will say blizz DID nerf them last expansion. Anyone who disagrees, think back to the days of hunters using mana. None of this 4 shots then stop to cast steady shot. They could unload on you for days continuously.



Also, kinda disappointed that pallies got the first nerf, but that's blizz for you. If it ain't end-game, it ain't important.
 
Tobinofear said:
oO. But, maybe it's bugged on the ptr. Or you get vengeance from pet damage?

I will copy a char later and will test it too..



Cheers
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Ive done it VS toons without pets lol Im pretty sure they just changed the mechanic a bit to make vengence slower to generate, IE if you get nuked and live you wont be an unstoppable 1 shotting hellstorm afterwords you must acctually play.
 
I like the fact that prot pallies get nerfed. They get 30% SP from strength already, and I think they should get something tanking-related and not that. But the way blizzard does it (if I understand right) is to only get it off on PVP. That I don't like. In todays wow PVP and PVE are so much different worlds already. I mean, in my Fire Mage I am always on top of dps charts in every dungeon (not surprised to do 50%+ dmg) except BFD and Stockade, since obviously there are 25 lvl guys and other P2P twinks. But in PVP... I suck. Although Fire has its moments; about 850 pyro crit + 250 blast crit on unsuspecting hunter, it was so great Ha-ha moment. Well, MoP will destroy probably every of these talent spec buffs...
 
I keep telling you guys this but you will not notice the difference...
 
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