Hiroitchi
Grandfathered
I might get some flack for this, but this is all from my experiences and what not twinking a Havoc DH these past few months. I had started twinking because of a few BoE drops on my 110 during 7.1 and saw the FOTM class, the Demon Hunter. I was unsure about it and saw a video by Umren. I was like hey that looks like fun, then I did the research via Google. Through reddit, I found this place. I looked at the list and pre-planned on what I wanted to do. I spoke to Changzu briefly, read opinions from My perfection and Aelobin, and looked at my own toon. There was an extensive knowledge base from these players.
Unlike other twink classes, Havoc Demon Hunters are very gear dependent and require a certain Artifact Path to survive huge pulls. To twink one is not for the feign of heart. Speed doesn't matter much when you can't survive a 10 mob+ pull involving cc. So despite my stubborn attitude and play with what you like demeanor, I stuck with it. So how to keep my speed and still dull amounts of damage. So the risk vs reward mentality was applied.
I figured I chose to go with talents that do just that. I centered my choices on CC from chaos nova to spawn soul fragments for healing and eye beam for added AoE when matched with the artifact abilities. These souls also reduce the cool down for Eye Beam and chaos nova to the point that I think I casted each ability four times in under 5 seconds. This is where risk vs reward come in during mass pulls. The more mobs the better.
Demon Hunters damage is all RNG based and yes we're not a complete class , but I had to think outside the box. It is in my opinion that I really can not aim for Single Target dps or what not. I just have to get there fast enough and AoE mobs down. I normally que as a tank in Havoc, so to me this way of thinking is paramount. Playing devils advocate there are many other classes that do it better for far less, I still stick with this lackluster twink class spec. Now that 7.2 has been out and the ring that offers a 102 talent, only time will tell how it'll fair off.
I thought I'd continue to share my own opinions of the class seeing as there were a few questions people had asked me why even make a Demon Hunter Twink, especially as Havoc? I was recently asked that and my only thought that came to mind was a quote from a classic movie, "Top Gun;" "I just feel the need for speed." The Demon Hunter Havoc specialization affords me that opportunity.
The stat weights I rely on are: Mastery>Crit>Haste>Agility>Versatility. I choose this route because Mastery increased Chaos Damage equal to your mastery and it also increased your movement speed. The higher the bonus the faster you'll be. From the gems, and trying it out, I found that roughly every 150 points of mastery you get a 2% bonus to chaos damage and an increase in movement speed. The first three stat priorities are pretty obvious for Havoc. then comes the secondary stats like leech and avoidance. Avoidance takes roughly about 600 points to hit the cap, you want cap. As for leech, it gets tricky here, my thoughts are if your damage out put is high your minimum leech is 10% and if its low you'd want it to be 30% Leech.
As you are gearing up your Havoc twink, but cannot afford nor find gear that has leech. you would have to rely on your Artifact traits and class talents. to help with your surviviability. I have listed them accordingly.
Talents w/o leech
1. Fellblade is a Must... It allows for positioning and another method to deal damage.
2. Demonioc Appetite allows you to spawn lesser Soul Fragments when using Chaos Nova. Even the lesser Soul fragments works really well with Feast of Souls.
Talent w/Leech:
1. Fellblade, see above for reference.
2. Demon Blades. Its one less button to push and well with high amounts of haste, your attacks would help with more fury.
7.2 and Beyond Talent choices /w High Damage Output:
1. Blind Fury goes really well so you can spam Chaos Strike on Eye Beam cooldown.
2. Demonic Appetite, see above reference
Artifact Path recommendations
1. Fury of the Illidari
2. Warglaives of Chaos
3. Sharpened Glaives
4. Feast of the Souls
5. Deciever's Fury
6. Inner Demons
Now this is where you are gear dependent:
Without leech:
7.a Overwhelming Power
With significant amount of leech and avoidance:
7.b Critical Chaos
Then you should continue to the 3rd Golden Trait
8. Chaos Vison
9. Anguish of the Deceiver
10. Balanced Blades
11. Unleashed Demons
12. Demon Speed
13. Illidari Knowledge
13. Rage of the Ilidari
By this time you'll have had 25 traits under your belt.
The choice of gear is up to you but my preference will be how much Mastery can put into this twinks gear. I do have cloth for my twink to boost my mastery. Gem Mastery and Enchant in Mastery will make you pretty fast. Its just you will be lacking in the Single Target damage compared to other classes.
Unlike other twink classes, Havoc Demon Hunters are very gear dependent and require a certain Artifact Path to survive huge pulls. To twink one is not for the feign of heart. Speed doesn't matter much when you can't survive a 10 mob+ pull involving cc. So despite my stubborn attitude and play with what you like demeanor, I stuck with it. So how to keep my speed and still dull amounts of damage. So the risk vs reward mentality was applied.
I figured I chose to go with talents that do just that. I centered my choices on CC from chaos nova to spawn soul fragments for healing and eye beam for added AoE when matched with the artifact abilities. These souls also reduce the cool down for Eye Beam and chaos nova to the point that I think I casted each ability four times in under 5 seconds. This is where risk vs reward come in during mass pulls. The more mobs the better.
Demon Hunters damage is all RNG based and yes we're not a complete class , but I had to think outside the box. It is in my opinion that I really can not aim for Single Target dps or what not. I just have to get there fast enough and AoE mobs down. I normally que as a tank in Havoc, so to me this way of thinking is paramount. Playing devils advocate there are many other classes that do it better for far less, I still stick with this lackluster twink class spec. Now that 7.2 has been out and the ring that offers a 102 talent, only time will tell how it'll fair off.
I thought I'd continue to share my own opinions of the class seeing as there were a few questions people had asked me why even make a Demon Hunter Twink, especially as Havoc? I was recently asked that and my only thought that came to mind was a quote from a classic movie, "Top Gun;" "I just feel the need for speed." The Demon Hunter Havoc specialization affords me that opportunity.
The stat weights I rely on are: Mastery>Crit>Haste>Agility>Versatility. I choose this route because Mastery increased Chaos Damage equal to your mastery and it also increased your movement speed. The higher the bonus the faster you'll be. From the gems, and trying it out, I found that roughly every 150 points of mastery you get a 2% bonus to chaos damage and an increase in movement speed. The first three stat priorities are pretty obvious for Havoc. then comes the secondary stats like leech and avoidance. Avoidance takes roughly about 600 points to hit the cap, you want cap. As for leech, it gets tricky here, my thoughts are if your damage out put is high your minimum leech is 10% and if its low you'd want it to be 30% Leech.
As you are gearing up your Havoc twink, but cannot afford nor find gear that has leech. you would have to rely on your Artifact traits and class talents. to help with your surviviability. I have listed them accordingly.
Talents w/o leech
1. Fellblade is a Must... It allows for positioning and another method to deal damage.
2. Demonioc Appetite allows you to spawn lesser Soul Fragments when using Chaos Nova. Even the lesser Soul fragments works really well with Feast of Souls.
Talent w/Leech:
1. Fellblade, see above for reference.
2. Demon Blades. Its one less button to push and well with high amounts of haste, your attacks would help with more fury.
7.2 and Beyond Talent choices /w High Damage Output:
1. Blind Fury goes really well so you can spam Chaos Strike on Eye Beam cooldown.
2. Demonic Appetite, see above reference
Artifact Path recommendations
1. Fury of the Illidari
2. Warglaives of Chaos
3. Sharpened Glaives
4. Feast of the Souls
5. Deciever's Fury
6. Inner Demons
Now this is where you are gear dependent:
Without leech:
7.a Overwhelming Power
With significant amount of leech and avoidance:
7.b Critical Chaos
Then you should continue to the 3rd Golden Trait
8. Chaos Vison
9. Anguish of the Deceiver
10. Balanced Blades
11. Unleashed Demons
12. Demon Speed
13. Illidari Knowledge
13. Rage of the Ilidari
By this time you'll have had 25 traits under your belt.
The choice of gear is up to you but my preference will be how much Mastery can put into this twinks gear. I do have cloth for my twink to boost my mastery. Gem Mastery and Enchant in Mastery will make you pretty fast. Its just you will be lacking in the Single Target damage compared to other classes.
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