My thoughts on a dying bracket

[Pump]

Why does everyone here state all the alliance rogues are baddies etc, you were in a BG with me and nick on the team, ggwp.
Well anyways, yes people are being elitist etc but i like to guide new players, and have gotten trolled by old players cause of this (them pretending to be new in 19s - which is kinda sad anyways) if someone asks to improve i help, but most of the newcommers are extremely arrogant and cocky, thinking they're better than someone who has played 19s since vanilla.

If you really want the bracket to change, you have to show other people how to, not just write here, but show it with actions.

A bit more OT here now, dont state all skilled players who arent in TL are dodging, that actually annoys me if you state something false.

 

[Stavie]

Why does everyone here state all the alliance rogues are baddies etc, you were in a BG with me and nick on the team, ggwp.
Well anyways, yes people are being elitist etc but i like to guide new players, and have gotten trolled by old players cause of this (them pretending to be new in 19s - which is kinda sad anyways) if someone asks to improve i help, but most of the newcommers are extremely arrogant and cocky, thinking they're better than someone who has played 19s since vanilla.

If you really want the bracket to change, you have to show other people how to, not just write here, but show it with actions.

A bit more OT here now, dont state all skilled players who arent in TL are dodging, that actually annoys me if you state something false.

I typed that it seems.

 

[LuckieeEu]

Why does everyone here state all the alliance rogues are baddies etc, you were in a BG with me and nick on the team, ggwp.
Well anyways, yes people are being elitist etc but i like to guide new players, and have gotten trolled by old players cause of this (them pretending to be new in 19s - which is kinda sad anyways) if someone asks to improve i help, but most of the newcommers are extremely arrogant and cocky, thinking they're better than someone who has played 19s since vanilla.

If you really want the bracket to change, you have to show other people how to, not just write here, but show it with actions.

A bit more OT here now, dont state all skilled players who arent in TL are dodging, that actually annoys me if you state something false.

I agree with your showing other people how to, if you want to make a change. But without a solid community who are friendly then it is going to be impossible to make a change, if the first resort is sending someone to twinkinfo currently this isn't exactly the best website for new comers to catch a glimpse of the good parts of the bracket.

Sorry if I stated that good players were dodging.. I didn't realise I had written this, you must understand I wrote this with a bit of annoyance in me from 'Tehbaws' claiming that me and the other healer in the battleground where bad, and then continued to dodge me even though I stated if I was bad he could surely beat me and leave straight away.

 

[IhazBankz]

Why does everyone here state all the alliance rogues are baddies etc

Who do you consider a good rogue on ally, because there really isnt any.

90% of you can't kick,
your all ambush at the same time heroes
most nelf subterfags

Truth be told there are hardly any decent horde rogues but no one compares to Ondura/Nicozy's current level. Redrum probly still does but he rarely plays rogue.

 

[Pump]

Who do you consider a good rogue on ally, because there really isnt any.

90% of you can't kick,
your all ambush at the same time heroes
most nelf subterfags

Truth be told there are hardly any decent horde rogues but no one compares to Ondura/Nicozy's current level. Redrum probly still does but he rarely plays rogue.

Oh please, that level?D nick is way better than either of those two, nuff said. In the past few days every game i've played on my warr i've gotten ambushed by 3 horde rogues at once, so dont tell me it only happens from alliance.

Anyways, these are just everyone's opinions, now lets stop derailing this, you can always /w me ingame, you know where to find me.

 

[LuckieeEu]

Who do you consider a good rogue on ally, because there really isnt any.

90% of you can't kick,
your all ambush at the same time heroes
most nelf subterfags

Truth be told there are hardly any decent horde rogues but no one compares to Ondura/Nicozy's current level. Redrum probly still does but he rarely plays rogue.

You seen smull on his rogue? Oxxhaha or something, he is a a good rogue, a pain in the ass to have on you.

 

[IhazBankz]

Oh please, that level?D nick is way better than either of those two, nuff said. In the past few days every game i've played on my warr i've gotten ambushed by 3 horde rogues at once, so dont tell me it only happens from alliance.

Anyways, these are just everyone's opinions, now lets stop derailing this, you can always /w me ingame, you know where to find me.

I never said horde dont do it, hence why i said there are hardly any decent horde rogues aswell. Nick no way compares to the 3 i listed, but as you say its completly opinion based.

 

[Stubs]

Oh please, that level?D nick is way better than either of those two, nuff said. In the past few days every game i've played on my warr i've gotten ambushed by 3 horde rogues at once, so dont tell me it only happens from alliance.

Anyways, these are just everyone's opinions, now lets stop derailing this, you can always /w me ingame, you know where to find me.

stop it already lol, comparing Nick to Nicozy,Redrum,Arkant etc is a joke ive been playing with them all in arenas (exepct Redrum) but i can say Nicozy + Arkant is probally 2 of the best arena rogs ive been playing with and against in the 19 bracket, and also in BG Nicozy is probally one of the best 19 Rogs in the brackets

 

[Mesikämmen]

Yeah I would also like to add that every1 in BLNT/Cárebears/ONR/HSA are 10.0 and everyone else are trash. My guildies are all probably best of the bracket.

 

[Stubs]

Yeah I would also like to add that every1 in BLNT/Cárebears/ONR/HSA are 10.0 and everyone else are trash. My guildies are all probably best of the bracket.

Trying to make fun of me? because its just my opinion ive done alot of arenas with and against Nick and also alot of bgs with and against so i have reasons to say Nicozy and Arkant (My guildies) are better at rog

 

[IhazBankz]

Yeah I would also like to add that every1 in BLNT/Cárebears/ONR/HSA are 10.0 and everyone else are trash. My guildies are all probably best of the bracket.

i can live with being a 9,9

 

[Shift]

If i am called bad for something i want to know why. For example: if i popped out of bear to heal myself quick at 4+ stacks because healers might be lacking a bit and a rogue could open up on me at any moment and i die, instead of people calling me bad and giving no explanation i want them to tell me what i did wrong so i can improve on what i did wrong.

Most people nowadays think that they are immune to mistakes. I for one know that that is not true and i don't pretend that i can't make them. It really boils down to the bracket to make or break a player in my opinion. Constructive criticism is not a bad thing, just learn from your mistakes and take any advice that you can get.

Point out the mistakes of a knew player, because if they don't know what they did wrong how will they improve? If you see a new player in the gulch point them here, this site may have its faults but it still is a good place to get information once you sift through all the trash.

 

[Lolpzlate]

If i am called bad for something i want to know why. For example: if i popped out of bear to heal myself quick at 4+ stacks because healers might be lacking a bit and a rogue could open up on me at any moment and i die, instead of people calling me bad and giving no explanation i want them to tell me what i did wrong so i can improve on what i did wrong.

Most people nowadays think that they are immune to mistakes. I for one know that that is not true and i don't pretend that i can't make them. It really boils down to the bracket to make or break a player in my opinion. Constructive criticism is not a bad thing, just learn from your mistakes and take any advice that you can get.

Point out the mistakes of a knew player, because if they don't know what they did wrong how will they improve? If you see a new player in the gulch point them here, this site may have its faults but it still is a good place to get information once you sift through all the trash.

I happen to like you. That's all that matters, good sir.

 

[Shift]

I happen to like you. That's all that matters, good sir.

And i you, sir. But there is room for improvement for myself and every other twink out there. Right now 19 wsg is just a place to show off how big your epeen is imo

 

[Lolpzlate]

Amen

 

[Pump]

stop it already lol, comparing Nick to Nicozy,Redrum,Arkant etc is a joke ive been playing with them all in arenas (exepct Redrum) but i can say Nicozy + Arkant is probally 2 of the best arena rogs ive been playing with and against in the 19 bracket, and also in BG Nicozy is probally one of the best 19 Rogs in the brackets

As we agreed with reece, this is purely opinion based, imo nick is really good in WSG, but dunno about arenas.

 

[Ridwane]

As we agreed with reece, this is purely opinion based, imo nick is really good in WSG, but dunno about arenas.

I see both played WSG and arenas i can say to you that Nicozy and Arkant dominate outrageously the current meta game in terms of positionning / kick / saps efficiencies / flag returns. Nick do great aswell but there is a huge difference between Anarchism / Arkant to Nick, he kick good okay (he pre kick sometimes too), he got most of flag returns (most of his ninja flag is less efficient cuz when the current FC drop he is alliance ramp, so the new FC have the time to pick himself another time...), but Anarchism and Arkant sap the good player and players are in very bad positionning or there teammates can't handle and peel that sap so they currently force trinket and re sap. Nick rarely force a trinket on sap on a good player.

 

[Hurrx]

When someone called you bad, are you bad?
If the answer is yes, work on it and become good.
If the answer is no, I don't see why you would care - move on and keep not being bad.

crybabies r crybabies

 

[willix]

If you really want to discuss helping this bracket, here's what needs to happen.

1. All the egos need to DIE. You know who you are. You are NOT special snowflakes. You are not God's gift to the 19 bracket. At BEST you are a detriment to this bracket.
2. Players that queue exclusively on one faction, particularly with their friends or guildies, need to create and PLAY characters of the opposing faction. Group queuing, especially guildies, needs to stop.
3. Priority needs to be placed in balancing games first and foremost. If a side is down players, people need to sit out to even teams. If a side is getting rolled, you need to back off and think about queuing that faction in following games.
4. GY camping needs to stop. Calling it 'containment' only illustrates just how big of a douche bag you are to even try and deny you are graveyard camping.
5. People need to show appreciation for each other and their bracket every day, by doing what they can to improve QoL for other players. If that means helping the underdog so you can get even team, if that means helping someone roll a new toon on the underdog, even if that means refusing to queue with players who are causing the problems. Be the change you want to see.

I think it's amazing that a bracket which has historically had high numbers (even after 3.2 bracket split and cata imbalances), is in such a terrible place right now that we are even having this discussion. This community is like what happened when Anna Nicole Smith let herself go on Fried Chicken and Pills.

Get it together, FFS.

 

[Datinla]

i can live with being a 9,9

Is it now we're supposed to laugh? Sorry, I forgot.