Sorry Camael, but from my perspective Gigzxx's summary in the post above sums up their work completely, they have no legal obligation i.e not paid for to maintain neutrality, indeed, in those instances where i've spoken to people off TI who have received bans/suspensions they have all been from the same mod. Granted that could simply be down to it being the 70-79 bracket moderator (of whom that is i have no clue), or instead it could be that they do indeed, seek vendetta's against posters. Now surely, these moderators cannot be on the forums the entire time, so when something occurs other mods deal with it, but from my experiences in relation to bans, those who give out the first ban, are the exact same moderator who delivers the second, moderators also don't take account of the positives that a person offers, thinking of Yow here, but his rogue guide was excellent, and despite myself and others asking for a sticky - it did not receive it, that and other contributions to the community have been overlooked in assigning punishments, i'm thinking from an entirely legal perspective here, but during sentencing, the defence ask the judge to consider the positives, those being the deeds that the defendant has done which are overwhelmingly positive.
They might not have any legal obligation but they do have to follow the Code of Conduct, if someone doesn't do anything wrong, a moderator can not and will not even consider a ban or a warning, since there would be no reason to do so.
You mention the fact that moderators who ban someone once, are the ones that do it the second time, i'd like to take your attention on :
Circumventing a Suspension / Ban
This category includes :
- Posting on another account during the ban period of another account thought to belong to you
- Having someone post on your behalf
If a member is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:
- Be given an appropriate number of infraction points or a temporary/extended ban from the forums, depending upon severity.
Most people who do get a ban, are usually those who will create a second account right away to either discuss, whine over the ban. By doing so they do infract the code of conduct which often leads to a ban on the second account and a longer term on the first ban. Moderators are the first ones to be happy when someone does something positive for the community, i can not and will not discuss about Yow as i do know what happened and for what reason he was warned / account suspended. But a positive thread, does not justify a negative one. If someone makes a guide for every single class avaible but than decides to make just one thread relative to any arguement who might activate as many points as a day ban requires, he will be banned.
Yow's guide should have not even been posted in this forum, but in the guide forum, a sticky here would be wrong wile what you should have done is ask a Moderator to move it in the right section and than eventually sticky it.
Although this post is off topic, that shouldn't be the basis of deleting it.
These forums have turned into a ban and closed threadfest lately, and amongst the trolling, which is to be expected on a public forum, especially in relation to wow, the moderating policy is too strict imo. Congrats on your leadership role Nesyla - it was thoroughly deserved i suppose, but i can't help think to myself that everytime you post, you shouldn't have the powers that you do have. No offense to you, but your English isn't particularly great, you often misspell words - heck we all do, but when it comes to filtering through arguments and flame wars, i presume (thinking of Xavizi's thread from yesterday here) you just delete anything remotely non trolling, as opposed to editing. I mean i even pointed out to a fully fledged moderator the other day the indecency of posting private emails on a public forum, which he then went on to later edit out, but in turn couldn't be bothered to edit my post containing a quote of his with said emails in.
/rant out.
I would love to show you the ammount of posts i'm forced to delete as completely troll and or vulgar / offensive, you might as well agree or disagree on the position i have been given, but that should not affect the way you consider the rank i have, i am at the bottom of the staff pile, both Moderators and Administrators are above me and judge my work, if you think i am doing it wrong, you can discuss it with them, if you think you are the best person to do such a role you can apply as mentioned in the link at the bottom of my signature.
You mention Xavizi thread where i had to pretty much delete everything because they went on for 2 pages, insulting each other, is there any point in me leaving such posts ? Does the Community really have to read such nonsense ?
Yes i did see your post about emails in forums, but than again, that is not something that regards me, I do not have the power to edit posts and it's not that he might not have been bothered enought, but he probably just did not see it, each day there are a lot of reports being done and if Moderators had to read every single post it would be a no end work.
radiosninthaccount said:
Here is another clear example, nine accounts being done instead of waiting on the first account ban to expire, and this will end in another ban and a longer term on the first 9.
Yes, it's probably the same moderator that has banned him 9 times and will probably ban him 9 more times if he does not stop and keeps on being a troll for these forums and a non helpfull member on these forums.
To end it, this is the 70's section, this is not the tavern, if you want to go off topic and have a good fun with friends, you go in the Tavern.
Obviously a bit of fun - jokes is accepted as it's normal, as long as they are funny.
And when i say funny i mean from an objective point of view, not subjective.
