Max AP Hunter (Am I doing it wrong?)

[CIHC]

Yea, I mean this isn't the "best" cookie cutter spec when your starting out... I mean honestly, who wants to run around with 500 hp in a 19 twink bg? Not many people... But again, your going to be hitting like a effing truck even against mail wearers.



Good luck with your objective Zuty, I wish the best for you and your hunter. For better hunting, I suggest getting the [item]Seal of Wrynn[/item], its much better than wasting -5 stamina for +7 int >.>

 

[Arrowsinc]

I'd pick BoA Gun over BoA Bow. BoA Gun = 0.10% slower, so it hits harder, although it's less ap.

 

[Échoes]

I'd pick BoA Gun over BoA Bow. BoA Gun = 0.10% slower, so it hits harder, although it's less ap.

its not 0.10% slower, its 0,1sec slower



the gun will make you hit harder (even if you have 2 less ap)



also caniha, i would use seal of wrynn plus black widow band because we r going for max ap, not dps



btw if you have engineering, and you are goign for max ap, then you should use the goggles with 5 itn and 6 spirit, not green tinted(8 stam 7 spirit)



annoying, i would use spiderilk drape instead of lizardscale, and lavishly instead of 3/3 falcon ring, and put 7 agi on boots using this set-up would give you +2stam, 1hit(since your horde its really good),3 int (you gain 4sp :O), but you lose 2 agi (OMG). I would also use the boa gun, but thats more a personnal choice







i also use feet of the lynx and mindthrust, (<3 glass canon)



also just saying, max ap set doesn't mean max dps, plus when you go for max ap, basiacally ap set = lolset

 

[Zuty]

Good luck with your objective Zuty, I wish the best for you and your hunter.

Well I don't play retail. I was just bored.



~Zuty

 

[Arrowsinc]

its not 0.10% slower, its 0,1sec slower

that's what I ment. that's what happens when you write too fast, anyways it seems you understood me, so no harm done.

 

[CIHC]

@Echos, then create a chardev for max DPS, I'm kinda curious to see what one looks like. I've always thought stacking AP, Agility and Int on a hunter would constitute as a max DPS set. Go go go <3

 

[Zuty]

@Echos, then create a chardev for max DPS, I'm kinda curious to see what one looks like. I've always thought stacking AP, Agility and Int on a hunter would constitute as a max DPS set. Go go go <3

He is right about the gun. I lose 2 AP, but go from 129-155 Ranged DPS to 133-160 Ranged DPS.



~Zuty

 

[ArthurianKnight]

yeah but you lose precious hit rating who in this case would be a hell of a lot better used with your AP set.



not to mention you're losing those 9.0 dps arrows.

i think you're build is fine now, except that i'd go with that two handers instead of the off hand thing as well, just because 25agi is more ap then 22 int. and its also some major crit that you will need since MAX AP is all about the white damage !

 

[Arrowsinc]

yeah but you lose precious hit rating who in this case would be a hell of a lot better used with your AP set.



not to mention you're losing those 9.0 dps arrows.

i think you're build is fine now, except that i'd go with that two handers instead of the off hand thing as well, just because 25agi is more ap then 22 int. and its also some major crit that you will need since MAX AP is all about the white damage !

I always thought of max ap set as a lolset for high crits and stuff.

And don't worry about the 9.5 dps arrows, you can choose 9.5 dps bullets from that same quest you get 9.5 dps arrows from. It's all good, BoA Gun = better choice.

 

[ArthurianKnight]

you might thinking of it as a lol set, but the day you get half your life gone in 1 single shot, you'll be like WTF !



max AP set are made for middle play.

like you get your team mates to rush in the middle aggro everybody in front of them then you come in maximum range and just multishot like a bitch. add a priest healer int hat mix and you got yourself an easy middle game win ! that middle game then just got yourself more time to get the flag before they do.



at least thats how i see it, so no i'm not gonna say LOL set at those with less life then me. to those guy i'll say die first because i dont want to see my life being picked in one single blow !



again my argument stays, the crit is of no use if you imss... and max AP is all about white shots and the occasionnal multi-shot to sweep the board. you know forcing the crowd to use their "oh shit button" faster then your team. so in this case the last thing you want is to miss that multi-shot that will be crucial. not to mention that if anybody comes close to you, you want your wingclip to work right... thus hit rating > crit in that case.



so keep the bow for much needed hit rating. even if you have not much, like 5 or 6 hit rating it is still better then 0 !

 

[Zuty]

But like Arrowsinc said, you can get Bullets that are the same as the Arrows from the same quest. So no need to worry about it.



I see nothing wrong with a glass cannon set. Anyone can see that you are going down faster, but you sacrifice survivability for a huge burst of damage. This isn't meant to be a main set nor is it something I would use while in the fray of combat. But if I am out of combat, swap sets, WTFPWN someone in a shot or two, duck out of combat, swap back.



~Zuty

 

[Grabco]

What is the name of the quest for 9.5 dps arrows/bullets??



Gun is better than bow for max damage. Normal arrows give 3.5 dps and crafted heavy shot bullets give 4.5 dps so I think the gun is 1dps (14 AP) better than the bow.

 

[Échoes]

@Echos, then create a chardev for max DPS, I'm kinda curious to see what one looks like. I've always thought stacking AP, Agility and Int on a hunter would constitute as a max DPS set. Go go go <3

I didn't do any math, but this set up seems good for max dps:



character planner . Échoes . chardev seven



talent: 5/5 lethal shot 3/3 careful aim 2/2 savage strike



I picked nelf because of the 3 more agi they get over belf, however next patch if they balance base stat this might changes



feel free to give opinions and discuss about it (as long as you explain your choices)

 

[Arrowsinc]

you might thinking of it as a lol set, but the day you get half your life gone in 1 single shot, you'll be like WTF !



max AP set are made for middle play.

like you get your team mates to rush in the middle aggro everybody in front of them then you come in maximum range and just multishot like a bitch. add a priest healer int hat mix and you got yourself an easy middle game win ! that middle game then just got yourself more time to get the flag before they do.



at least thats how i see it, so no i'm not gonna say LOL set at those with less life then me. to those guy i'll say die first because i dont want to see my life being picked in one single blow !



again my argument stays, the crit is of no use if you imss... and max AP is all about white shots and the occasionnal multi-shot to sweep the board. you know forcing the crowd to use their "oh shit button" faster then your team. so in this case the last thing you want is to miss that multi-shot that will be crucial. not to mention that if anybody comes close to you, you want your wingclip to work right... thus hit rating > crit in that case.



so keep the bow for much needed hit rating. even if you have not much, like 5 or 6 hit rating it is still better then 0 !

I'm talking MAX AP now, that's for the real extremists.

With a private healer, or a dependant healer atleast, I would stack ap, but most importantly, intellect.

A mix of high ap and mana = the best choice for middle play imo.

And for high damage I still believe boa gun > boa bow.

However in middle play I would probably still be playing with venomstrike, it's better than both of them, due to the chance on hit. It gives more +dps.

Also, there are other ways to get hit rating or crit rating, apart from the BoA bow. But as I said, for midplay, max ap isn't optional to me.

Max AP is just for showoff. If we're talking 'MAX', that is.

With Max AP gear you end up with about 1000 mana, which isn't that great for midplay.

 

[Scadoosh]

Check this out: Scadoosh Chardev

This is my attempt at getting the most AP through using Int primarily. The other chardevs above stacked AP, and ended up with about 1k mana. With this set up you would have:

• 383 AP
  
• 1113 health, 1588 mana
  
• 25.78% to crit and 12% extra crit damage
  

This is do-able (i usually run with rumsey and the battle+guardian elixirs), but I wouldn't do this exactly because:

• I'd rather have herbs than engineering
  
• I'd rather be hit capped than only stack AP
  
• I don't want to waste time getting two more AGMs
  
• I prefer bats to wolves as pets for the stun
  
• You would have to faction change to get Screecher Belt.
  

 

[ArthurianKnight]

actually, i just found out that Precision Bullets can be farmed as much as you want them to.

they actually drop from baelog, so go ahead go farm baelog for precision arrows which make it easier to get then just doing 1 quest and be over with.



i know i'm gonna farm it for a friend and he will come along for it.

 

[Kore nametooshort]

9 str is moar AP!!! lolollool! I R troll tonight btw.

 

[attackattack]

two of my friends that play hunter

[char=Skullcrusher]Man%C3%AFg[/char]

and

[char=Kul+Tiras]D%C3%B6mhring[/char]

both in their AP sets

 

[Arrowsinc]

actually, i just found out that Precision Bullets can be farmed as much as you want them to.

they actually drop from baelog, so go ahead go farm baelog for precision arrows which make it easier to get then just doing 1 quest and be over with.



i know i'm gonna farm it for a friend and he will come along for it.

The Precision Arrows that drops from Baelog is Req Level 35, so sorry to break your bubble ^^

 

[Scadoosh]

So last night I tried the set up that I posted about above... WOW. With the wolf buff (on 20sec, off 20sec) I had just under 400AP, 25%+ to crit and 12% extra crit damage. Despite missing a bit, the damage was ridiculous.