Dramatized
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It just sounds you've had a bad experience with a Mac-computer. I've had several, and they've all worked great (especially the battery time).
Macbooks!
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It just sounds you've had a bad experience with a Mac-computer. I've had several, and they've all worked great (especially the battery time).
Garrett
Legend
Sure, that sounds plausible.
Maybe every single thing about my macbook was faulty. Maybe the countless people complaining about this shit are wrong. Maybe macbooks really are Jesus.
tweedledum
OG
2/10 try harder
Garrett
Legend
I'm not trying to troll. His point of view is unrealistic.
The macbook battery point had nothing to do with it being faulty. And macbooks are KNOWN to run hot. It's not a ''it's faulty'' issue.
Stop neglecting it by making it seem like it is one.
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tweedledum
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Garrett
Legend
I never denied that. I never said ''only macbooks have these problems''. I said, that because macbooks have these problems the pros that he mentioned weren't correct.
I literally phrased it in my 2nd response. I said ''macbooks run particularly hot, AS DO OTHER LAPTOPS''.
Even so, just because other computers have these problems doesn't mean that they have it the same way. Such as the macbook being a particularly pricy laptop. Why would you pay for it if it had the same problems as other laptops or except worse?
Dramatized
Legend
I'm just saying, all these problems you claim every Mac is experiencing haven't happened to either me or anyone in my family (we have in total had like 6 macs or so). So please, don't spread BS.
tweedledum
OG
people don't buy products for their cons.
dell/alienware, sony(vaio) and clevo offer laptops that match the macbook price point(s), all manufacturers have slips in quality control, deal with it.
you only hear about macs because they're a lone company in a windows dominated market
dell/alienware, sony(vaio) and clevo offer laptops that match the macbook price point(s), all manufacturers have slips in quality control, deal with it.
you only hear about macs because they're a lone company in a windows dominated market
Garrett
Legend
I never said Mac, I said MACBOOK. And, yeah I don't deny what I've said.
It's kind of amusing that you'd throw away my argument simply on the assumption that it's my experience that I'm basing it on yet roll with yours with an excuse as trivial or even more-so than my own.
Sure, I COULD be basing my shit on my experience, or I could be basing it on something more. Maybe I'm basing it on my experience and something else. But I KNOW that you're only basing your shit on your experience because you've just admitted that.
If we're both basing shit on personal experience. Who's to say who's wrong? In the end, both are fickle excuses. But, whatever.
I will admit that my experience with the macbook wasn't a particularly good one. But you're wrong in that I'm only basing it on that. I did specify in a prior post of mine that a simple Google search would tell you a lot and that they have articles on that shit. So, here they are: 13in MacBook Pro with Retina display - Macworld Australia
What is the "real-world" battery life of the "Mid-2012" 13-Inch and 15-Inch MacBook Pro models? @ EveryMac.com
MacBook Pro 15-inch and 13-inch non-Retina models occupy the consumer space | Macworld
Ctrl + F Battery if you can't find it
As you can see, they all state the battery clocks at about 5 hrs under extensive use, my estimate was 4. So sure, I stretched it a little, but barely.
Btw, these are mac fanboy websites. So I hope I won't see you complain about my sources.
Now, because I know you're gonna say ''but it clocks 6 - 7 hours if you like google a few hundred or so times''. Yeah sure, but if you recall, I said it was roughly 4 hours if you used extensive shit. And I wasn't wrong.
Now for the heating issues stuff:
Intel Core i7 MacBook Pro Is Too Hot: Can Boil Water | TFTS
Report: Core i7 MacBook Pros running hot | TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog
AnandTech - The MacBook Pro Review (13 & 15-inch): 2011 Brings Sandy Bridge
http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/5957/apple-macbook-pro-mid-2012-15-inch-laptop-review
Again, CTRL + F heat (if you have to)
Match macbook price point means what exactly? I said the macbook was overpriced. I don't care about other laptops with similar price tags. It's not about its price tag. It's about what you get from said price tag.
I know alienware offers more for the amount you pay than the macbook does and I know that sony does too. I haven't looked into clevo but I'm sure they do also.
Anyway, these are the specs of the lowest priced Alienware laptop which is 999 dollars, the same as your 13 inch macbook pro.
3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i5-3210M (3MB Cache, up to 3.1GHz w/ Turbo Boost 2.0)
6GB3 DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
500GB 7,200 RPM SATA 3Gb/s
1 GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 650M with Optimus™
And here's the macbook pro
2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor (Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz) with 3MB L3 cache
4GB of 1600MHz DDR3 memory
500GB 5400-rpm hard drive
Intel HD Graphics 4000 (all 13- and 15-inch configurations)
As you can see it sucks dick in comparison. But hey, at least it looks good.
Alienware does indeed offer more value for my money.
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Druiddroid
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windows is better for simple school related stuff because it's cheaper. word, excel, powerpoint.. etc. just documents. and of course it's also better for gaming. i've done gaming/school as an engineer major on laptops and never had major issues
for video editing i have seen mainly macs used for that. so for more specific applications macs might be the better choice. my friend is going into film and much prefers the mac. my other friend likes to use their mac for making youtube poops. i don't know what other applications macs are preferred in but i'm sure there's more.
i dunno why you guys are arguing over looks or battery life or heat issues. hipsterdom is overrated, and there's plugs/tables everywhere. it's more about your preference of what you want to do... most people will prefer a laptop over a macbook just because of the price. around this clique of gamers, the laptop will be even moreso preferred.
for video editing i have seen mainly macs used for that. so for more specific applications macs might be the better choice. my friend is going into film and much prefers the mac. my other friend likes to use their mac for making youtube poops. i don't know what other applications macs are preferred in but i'm sure there's more.
i dunno why you guys are arguing over looks or battery life or heat issues. hipsterdom is overrated, and there's plugs/tables everywhere. it's more about your preference of what you want to do... most people will prefer a laptop over a macbook just because of the price. around this clique of gamers, the laptop will be even moreso preferred.
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Garrett
Legend
They're calling me a liar. I'm just trying to prove myself.
Anyway, for video editing, you can just get windows and slap Sony Vegas on it or something.
Hamcake
OG
what about all those teenage hollywood movie editors
oh they don't exist
nevermind then
Druiddroid
OG
i'd assume video editing on a PC is like gaming on a mac. Limited.
youtube video makers prefer macs too
when you say this:
you're being stereotypical and trying to give a strawman to what mac users think macs are
i doubt editing is about slapping sony vegas and then everything's magical
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youakim
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Depends on what kind of editing you're doing, but sony vegas+adobe after effects is a pretty good combo.
Garrett
Legend
Firstly, what ''youtube video makers''? And why are they significant?
Secondly, why would it be limited? What do you have to back this up?
You're right in that I was alluding his behavior to the stereotypical behavior of a mac user.
''omg but i didn say video gaming'' When I had already mentioned other than video gaming. ''omgbut maybe ur mac was all wrong''. As if that's the only thing I'd run with.
I've seen their inability to believe or accept faults much more than once.
Windows has a lot of video editing software available. I find it quite hard to believe that not one of these can compare to the video editing software of a mac.
I think that the reason mac editing software is more popular (popular =/= better) is simply personal preference. I highly doubt it's even close to as significant as video gaming on a mac is.
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Taitaih
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Screw it, let's just go Linux.
For Gaming, get a Windows PC or Laptop. As much as I enjoy my Macs, I don't game on them.
For school, you can go either way. Microsoft Office products are significantly better on Windows in my opinion. On the other hand, some of the built in features on the Mac OS such as multiple desktops, trackpad functions, etc. make it very easy to navigate around your computer.
For every day life tasks, such as surfing the web and watching videos, I prefer the Mac.
That being said, I'm also a software developer, and I wouldn't ever consider even Bootcamping a Mac to try to do some of the development that I have to do (Unless I needed a Unix shell, but I can use other programs on the PC). Windows for sure for a power user.
We can argue all we want about Macs getting hot and their QA issues, but let me just say it... EVERY COMPUTER HAS SOME QA ISSUES. It's a part of the whole chip building process. It's not bulletproof. I've seen just as many Windows laptops go up in flames, and usually their build quality does not match up to what Apple puts out. Windows machines run hot as well when you put some stress on it. There's no magic to it. When the processor/memory/hd works, it produces heat. The same i7 chip in a Mac or Windows computer will produce the same amount of heat under the same level of stress, and the machine needs to figure out the best way to get it out.
If you're not planning to do serious gaming or aren't a power user, a Mac can be a very friendly, stylish machine. I've never had any hardware issues with mine. And yes, the battery does start to discharge and doesn't last as long, but that's true for ALL of the laptops that I've owned and all of my phones. Batteries die, get used to it until the next big thing rolls around.
If you plan to game, go Windows. Again, I recommend a Desktop for the best gaming experience and hardware longevity.
For Gaming, get a Windows PC or Laptop. As much as I enjoy my Macs, I don't game on them.
For school, you can go either way. Microsoft Office products are significantly better on Windows in my opinion. On the other hand, some of the built in features on the Mac OS such as multiple desktops, trackpad functions, etc. make it very easy to navigate around your computer.
For every day life tasks, such as surfing the web and watching videos, I prefer the Mac.
That being said, I'm also a software developer, and I wouldn't ever consider even Bootcamping a Mac to try to do some of the development that I have to do (Unless I needed a Unix shell, but I can use other programs on the PC). Windows for sure for a power user.
We can argue all we want about Macs getting hot and their QA issues, but let me just say it... EVERY COMPUTER HAS SOME QA ISSUES. It's a part of the whole chip building process. It's not bulletproof. I've seen just as many Windows laptops go up in flames, and usually their build quality does not match up to what Apple puts out. Windows machines run hot as well when you put some stress on it. There's no magic to it. When the processor/memory/hd works, it produces heat. The same i7 chip in a Mac or Windows computer will produce the same amount of heat under the same level of stress, and the machine needs to figure out the best way to get it out.
If you're not planning to do serious gaming or aren't a power user, a Mac can be a very friendly, stylish machine. I've never had any hardware issues with mine. And yes, the battery does start to discharge and doesn't last as long, but that's true for ALL of the laptops that I've owned and all of my phones. Batteries die, get used to it until the next big thing rolls around.
If you plan to game, go Windows. Again, I recommend a Desktop for the best gaming experience and hardware longevity.
tweedledum
OG
panties in a bundle over trivial shit: the thread
Garrett
Legend
^Sore loser: The post.