Level 10s in the 10-19 PvP Bracket. Why the Hate?

[Cipe]

Analogies make terrible debate tools. Especially bad anagolies.
Surely you can come up with a better reason to NOT use them.

OT,
People hate 10's because they are different.

19s don't like 10s because they are weak.

 

[DetErMegJostein]

19s don't like 10s because they are weak.

Exactly, different^^

 

[Allybeboba]

19s don't like 10s because they are weak.

If you note in post #82 there was no mention of 19's.

 

[Zehj]

You, or anyone for that matter, really should use your favorite search engine and search on what is not and what is the best way to go about "winning" a debate

I suppose all enchants are "crutches" as well...

fyi that's not how you do it

 

[Dramatized]

As a strong supporter of level 10 twinks, it really upsets me the way the 19 twinking community is acting towards level 10 twinks. They pay their monthly subscription and have every right to queue up into XP-Off Warsong Gulch just like everyone else. And all the talk about level 10 twinks not being able to perform is absolute bogus. Just a couple nights ago I queued up on my level 10 Boomkin and topped damage AND killing blows.

With the current state of the level 10 twinking community, I'd like to take the initiative to start a level 10 twink skype group. Feel free to PM me your skype name and I will add you to the group. I'm hoping that we can coordinate some level 10 twink group queues and show these 19s what we're made of! Don't be surprised when you see SR pinned to their graveyard all night by us!

lol

 

[Legacyshockz]

guys calm down take a chill pill this is like racism, just set on levels.

the solution to this problem is to calm down and love each other.
This song will teach you love, kindness, and so much more towards each other :
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU

 

[Allybeboba]

fyi that's not how you do it

Then how "do you do it"?

OT,
In WoW, any MMO for that matter, there is always going to be haters. Most people "hate" or cyberbully because of the anonymity of the Internet. It does not reflect their real personality. I would certainly hope that all these people here are not this nasty and mean in real life.

Sweetsidney

 

[Zehj]

Then how "do you do it"?

apparently you ignorantly cling to the notion that twinking is still about doing everything you can to be as OP as possible and tell people that disagree that they don't know how to debate

if you were even slightly interested in competitive 19s you would realise that broken **** like swift pots, felmouth frenzy, drums, gliders etc have nothing beneficial to add to the meta; the epitome of which being wsg wargames - illustrated by the twink cup

thankfully consumables are banned by design in wargames, but even if they weren't I guarantee the community would ban them just like ferals and crusader stacking

theres no reason why this attitude cant be carried down to pugs as well, and it is for the most part, save for a few petty people

lastly who the **** cba to stock up on consumables before every game

 

[Allybeboba]

apparently you ignorantly cling to the notion that twinking is still about doing everything you can to be as OP as possible and tell people that disagree that they don't know how to debate


lastly who the **** cba to stock up on consumables before every game

Uhhh... Yeah, that is what twinking is about. What do you think is about donning white and grey armor? And not min/maxing your character?

Of coarse a lazy twink would not bother to stock up on consumables. That is why they complain about the others that do stock up on them. They go the extra mile. Just another case of the have nots complaining about the haves. That is why I sell many many consumables each and every night on BH.

OT,
Any time someone goes against the clique deems as "normal" they will lash out at you. In this case it is level 10's.

 

[Zehj]

Uhhh... Yeah, that is what twinking is about. What do you think is about donning white and grey armor? And not min/maxing your character?

Of coarse a lazy twink would not bother to stock up on consumables. That is why they complain about the others that do stock up on them. They go the extra mile. Just another case of the have nots complaining about the haves. That is why I sell many many consumables each and every night on BH.

oh yeah sorry my bad I forgot there was a 7k prize pool to decide who has the best geared twink with the most consumables in their bags

this isn't vanilla anymore, its about playing vs other twinks in a somewhat balanced environment

 

[Allybeboba]

If you are in doubt or you have nothing more constructive to add... Turn to personal attacks... Kek...

Please stay on topic. Each and every time I have steered this topic back on track yet it is trolls that continue to bring this thread and this site down. And rarely try to post on topic.

Ever on topic,
To answer the OP.
Any time you are the "minority" in a group you are going to be singled out by the many. If you do not conform to their set of "norms", you will seen as an outcast. We have seen this first hand many times in this thread alone on at least four different levels. Some people will bend to the will of the herd due to peer pressure, and some have stronger willpower rather than capitulate. And yet, even some others could care less what others think about them.
There have been many many studies done on this very subject.
Who knows, you (we) may even be being studied at this very moment or been a subject of one of these studies.

 

[Flamer]

If you are in doubt or you have nothing more constructive to add... Turn to personal attacks... Kek...

Please stay on topic. Each and every time I have steered this topic back on track yet it is trolls that continue to bring this thread and this site down. And rarely try to post on topic.

Ever on topic,
To answer the OP.
Any time you are the "minority" in a group you are going to be singled out by the many. If you do not conform to their set of "norms", you will seen as an outcast. We have seen this first hand many times in this thread alone on at least four different levels. Some people will bend to the will of the herd due to peer pressure, and some have stronger willpower rather than capitulate. And yet, even some others could care less what others think about them.
There have been many many studies done on this very subject.
Who knows, you (we) may even be being studied at this very moment or been a subject of one of these studies.

I do have constructive things to add.

As a strong supporter of level 10 twinks, it really upsets me the way the 19 twinking community is acting towards level 10 twinks. They pay their monthly subscription and have every right to queue up into XP-Off Warsong Gulch just like everyone else. And all the talk about level 10 twinks not being able to perform is absolute bogus. Just a couple nights ago I queued up on my level 10 Boomkin and topped damage AND killing blows.

With the current state of the level 10 twinking community, I'd like to take the initiative to start a level 10 twink skype group. Feel free to PM me your skype name and I will add you to the group. I'm hoping that we can coordinate some level 10 twink group queues and show these 19s what we're made of! Don't be surprised when you see SR pinned to their graveyard all night by us!

Hit me up level 10 twinks! We're looking to queue tonight, already have about 4 people that will be on!

 

[Arkant]

I do have constructive things to add.



Hit me up level 10 twinks! We're looking to queue tonight, already have about 4 people that will be on!

Hey, can I join that skype group, too?

=^]

 

[Flamer]

Hey, can I join that skype group, too?

=^]

Yep! Thanks for the PM, just added you to the group. Looking for more level 10 twinks to pwn some 19s tonight!

 

[DetErMegJostein]

Nice to see its still going^^

 

[Srs]

If everyone has the best gear available, and is at the same level, then everything is balanced (outside of faction and class imbalance, which is somewhat out of our control). We seek to eliminate these variables, so that we may have competitive games in which skill, rather than gear is the major contributing factor. This is why everyone needs to be geared, and the best level for the bracket before entering (currently 19 is the best level for all classes). Otherwise, it just lessens the quality of games.

For this same reason, consumables lessen the quality of games. The culture of 19s is that certain consumables are considered broken, and are not to be used. When someone does, it also throws the games out of whack. Have some consideration, and gear up (to the best gear available at 19), and stop using these consumable so that we may achieve our goal of having somewhat balanced competition.

 

[Healin]

The real question is actually why do you persist in playing 10 instead of 19?

Aye, not really any reason nowadays.

 

[Allybeboba]

If everyone has the best gear available, and is at the same level, then everything is balanced (outside of faction and class imbalance, which is somewhat out of our control). We seek to eliminate these variables, so that we may have competitive games in which skill, rather than gear is the major contributing factor. This is why everyone needs to be geared, and the best level for the bracket before entering (currently 19 is the best level for all classes). Otherwise, it just lessens the quality of games.

For this same reason, consumables lessen the quality of games. The culture of 19s is that certain consumables are considered broken, and are not to be used. When someone does, it also throws the games out of whack. Have some consideration, and gear up (to the best gear available at 19), and stop using these consumable so that we may achieve our goal of having somewhat balanced competition.

Then why use gear at all? Everyone can PvP naked or in starting gear enchantless. That would eliminate almost all imbalance.
This culture you speak of is a mere minority of a few vocal players. You do realize that don't you? There are more "guests" than users that visit this site every day. Many times more.

 

[Srs]

Then why use gear at all? Everyone can PvP naked or in starting gear enchantless. That would eliminate almost all imbalance.
This culture you speak of is a mere minority of a few vocal players. You do realize that don't you? There are more "guests" than users that visit this site every day. Many times more.

 

[Flamer]

Then why use gear at all? Everyone can PvP naked or in starting gear enchantless. That would eliminate almost all imbalance.

No it wouldn't because certain classes rely on enchants a lot more than others, and when none of the classes have them certain classes will be much more severely gimped.