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green i cant believe how stupid you are, i wont risk my TI account so i hope someone else will tell you whats wrong with your "logic"

My yearly IQ test states differently. I actually do understand what you are trying to tell but i can look at this neutral and is what i am doing.

Then go at 90.. or is it too hard?! It's easier to one-shot people at 20 with you 24 isn't it? And feel good about yourself after )
Why? this is what i am doing with this game.. twinking. If you dont like it why not stop playing f2p and try to get the 29s going again? I dont even play 24 anyway for your info and if you know who i am youd not say things like this at all! but that aside.
 
so green, you look at it neutral? bullsh^t, you support sams thats all you do.
he complains about something he does aswell, pathetic.

f2p = dead twinkbrackets? bullsh. again, you know why? because of the 24s. 24 = less activity in the 19s/29s bracket. all 24s could make 19s/29s and play in a bracket which exists since classic, but in 19/29 they would be challenged by other twinks. in the 20-24s bracket on the other hand they can gear their toon fast/cheap and can farm f2ps.

So yes, you are stupid.
 
so green, you look at it neutral? bullsh^t, you support sams thats all you do.
he complains about something he does aswell, pathetic.
I support this game, you on the other hand want to change it to your f2p needs.

f2p = dead twinkbrackets? bullsh. again, you know why? because of the 24s. 24 = less activity in the 19s/29s bracket. all 24s could make 19s/29s and play in a bracket which exists since classic, but in 19/29 they would be challenged by other twinks. in the 20-24s bracket on the other hand they can gear their toon fast/cheap and can farm f2ps.

So yes, you are stupid.
You are not thinking about twinking as a whole and what the impact would be if all f2p would start playing normal. 19s were allready dead before even f2p went live but still we organized those games and same for 29s with locked xp. You are just looking at this from f2p. I am not going to discuss this with you anymore.. there is no use, you are getting annoyed and start to put some nasty words on the forum.
 
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Ye, when you dont have any arguments anymore the discussion has no use. i also have a p2p in this bracket, i dont have any problems with p2ps, i have problems with ppl who complain about something they also do (and try to hide it), its called pathetic.

"twinking as a whole" ? twinking would still be possible in all brackets, but most twinks wont have any challenges, they want to farm undergeared noobs. Dont blame f2p twinks for that.

Im pretty sure you reported me to the mods, but you know what? If i get a ban for using harsh words to point out that you write bullsh^t i can live with the ban.
I wish more ppl would have the balls to say something like this, but i understand these people. Write stupid rubbish all day and u dont get a ban, use one single harsh word to point out the persons who talk rubbish in every single thread and you get a ban.
 
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Ye, when you dont have any arguments anymore the discussion has no use. i also have a p2p in this bracket, i dont have any problems with p2ps, i have problems with ppl who complain about something they also do (and try to hide it), its called pathetic.
Hah no the discussion stops for me cause i see no hope you will ever look it from both sides and neutral or even from the twinking community point of view. I am simply not able to discuss this further with you.

Im pretty sure you reported me to the mods, but you know what? If i get a ban for using harsh words to point out that you write bullsh^t i can live with the ban.
I wish more ppl would have the balls to say something like this, but i understand these people. Write stupid rubbish all day and u dont get a ban, use one single harsh word to point out the persons who talk rubbish in every single thread and you get a ban.
Dude i believe in freedom of speech.. my original account got perm banned cause of that believe.. why would i want someone having the same geesh.
 
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as i wrote, i also play p2p in this bracket.. well, pretty rare only when i faced 5+ huntards too often, but nevertheless i dont have any problems with p2ps.
it seems like you dont know much about the f2p community, 70% is poor, 20% also have normal accounts with gametime and 10% wont pay for such a unbalanced game.

so (no offence) but blaming the f2ps for less activity in the other twink brackets is just..
 
as i wrote, i also play p2p in this bracket.. well, pretty rare only when i faced 5+ huntards too often, but nevertheless i dont have any problems with p2ps.
it seems like you dont know much about the f2p community, 70% is poor, 20% also have normal accounts with gametime and 10% wont pay for such a unbalanced game.
Can you give me proof of these numbers? no, so dont pull them out of your behind.
I rather stay with facts and not with speculations in this case.
Now tell me why do you keep playing f2p and not play p2p or any other twink bracket?
so (no offence) but blaming the f2ps for less activity in the other twink brackets is just..
I dont blame f2p for lesser activity in other brackets, they were allready dead and blizzards fault. I am saying that f2p could make other brackets active if they genuine like twinking and start normal play but that is not the case.
 
back to original topic. any1 did some statistic on horde side? cos im facing more and more p2p on horde. and russians have been disappeared. any1 got any idea what happened to them?
I bet it has something to do with the fonts and the complaints all over the original forums :D They just placed the russians into our game without solving the problems. I bet that they are trying to solve these issues then they will be back :)

About the original point of this thread you cant measure this. Atleast its -1 p2p cause i am not playing ^^

And PS before cripz says (i see you lurking), i saw you yday in bg, true but that was 2 1/2 game and just taking a look around :)

Oh and PSPS, ill perhaps play a few today if the other lurker [MENTION=11342]Celestyna[/MENTION] asks me to haha <3
 
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Can you give me proof of these numbers? no, so dont pull them out of your behind.
I rather stay with facts and not with speculations in this case.
Now tell me why do you keep playing f2p and not play p2p or any other twink bracket?

I dont blame f2p for lesser activity in other brackets, they were allready dead and blizzards fault. I am saying that f2p could make other brackets active if they genuine like twinking and start normal play but that is not the case.

most of the f2ps are little kids who cant afford the game or whose parents wont pay for them. (e.g. majority of spanish ppl (no offence)). Take a look at your scoreboard and you see 50% ppl with names like legolas, shadowwhatever, killerwhatever

I play f2p because the majority in this bracket is f2p, i play pvp so i wont win vs other ppl because i have way better gear. I also play (well try to play) other brackets, 80s and 39. I havent seen a 39s pop since ages, and not a single 80s pop since 5.4.
 
So the OP complains about 24s and creates a 24 himself,lol, then some guy qqs about horde 24s but he is fine with 24 alliances (wanna get carried much lol), and to finish, other two dudes, previously 24s , who also dont like 24s.

Im mindblown
 
So the OP complains about 24s and creates a 24 himself,lol, then some guy qqs about horde 24s but he is fine with 24 alliances (wanna get carried much lol), and to finish, other two dudes, previously 24s , who also dont like 24s.

Im mindblown

youll be mindblown many times in your life if youre not able to understand simple texts
 
most p2p twinks prefer their old brackets but they are dead :(, they just come to 20-24bracket cuz its active and they want 20-24 bracket to be like old 19s, 29s, 39s but f2ps dont, we want exactly the opposite.

f2ps want bracket just for them, p2ps(not all) want a active bracket of just p2p twinks.

but cuz its hard to put a bracket going on off praticly nothing, so they come "f2pbracket" that is active cuz of starter editions and try to make it p2ptwinks bracket.


so blizz should give f2p lvl30cap, and we would leave 20-24 bracket just for them, wouldnt that be great? but what would probably happen would be some p2ps come to 30-34 bracket cuz of the intentions they had in 20-24bracket, 20-24 bracket start to die, and we all end up in 30-34 bracket.

Its not f2p who kill twinking, its a big amount of p2p players themselves.

oh theory, time to stop typing and start playing.


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so green, you look at it neutral? bullsh^t, you support sams thats all you do.
he complains about something he does aswell, pathetic.

f2p = dead twinkbrackets? bullsh. again, you know why? because of the 24s. 24 = less activity in the 19s/29s bracket. all 24s could make 19s/29s and play in a bracket which exists since classic, but in 19/29 they would be challenged by other twinks. in the 20-24s bracket on the other hand they can gear their toon fast/cheap and can farm f2ps.

So yes, you are stupid.

you are living proof that this bracket draws twinks from others, just for the activity.

lots of people wanted 80s to stay in wrath gear, did that stop you? lots of 80s hate mages, and rets, did that stop you?

FYI: i have 19s, 70s, and an 85. in all those brackets (as you well know), everyone is equal. i'd love f2ps to be on par with p2p, but they won't pay, and i'm not going to nerf my self.

like you did't in the 80s bracket.

i'm making a 15 rogue atm, if i get my arse handed to me by a 19, i know i chose to lock at 15.

they choose ​not pay.
 
most p2p twinks prefer their old brackets but they are dead :(, they just come to 20-24bracket cuz its active and they want 20-24 bracket to be like old 19s, 29s, 39s but f2ps dont, we want exactly the opposite.

f2ps want bracket just for them, p2ps(not all) want a active bracket of just p2p twinks.

but cuz its hard to put a bracket going on off praticly nothing, so they come "f2pbracket" that is active cuz of starter editions and try to make it p2ptwinks bracket.


so blizz should give f2p lvl30cap, and we would leave 20-24 bracket just for them, wouldnt that be great? but what would probably happen would be some p2ps come to 30-34 bracket cuz of the intentions they had in 20-24bracket, 20-24 bracket start to die, and we all end up in 30-34 bracket.

Its not f2p who kill twinking, its a big amount of p2p players themselves.

oh theory, time to stop typing and start playing.


Bye, Have a Great Time! - YouTube

Cripz, there is no such thing as a f2pbracket or p2pbracket.... Trial is not normal play, it is a try out for the real game. It is better to call it locked 20-24 bracket which include every form of twinking in that bracket. This is just looking from f2p what you are doing... not from the normal game pov and the easy solution is, from your point of view, to go p2p but that is a $$ problem but then you have to face the consequenses of facing people who pay for this game.

Giving f2p their own bracket is not good for their business. It gives people more reason to stay f2p which is not the intention of any trial regardless how much we want that :)
 
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Cripz, there is no such thing as a f2pbracket or p2pbracket.... Trial is not normal play, it is a try out for the real game. It is better to call it locked 20-24 bracket which include every form of twinking in that bracket. This is just looking from f2p what you are doing... not from the normal game pov and the easy solution is, from your point of view, to go p2p but that is a $$ problem but then you have to face the consequenses of facing people who pay for this game.

Giving f2p their own bracket is not good for their business. It gives people more reason to stay f2p which is not the intention of any trial regardless how much we want that :)


ik there isnt a f2ptwinks bracket neither p2ptwinks bracket but if there was it would cease this conflict.
what blizz intended and what happens in the game is very diferent.
ofc we all know blizz wont do such a thing, we have to live with each other.

we could make f2ptwinks and p2ptwinks(50%) happy if each one had its own bracket, f2ps cant move to another bracket unless blizz changes starter edition, and ofc p2ptwinks wont try to make their own active bracket.

Mission Impossible, so all that is left to do is rant, qq and hope for blizz to make it more balanced btw each like in 5.3 :p
 
So the OP complains about 24s and creates a 24 himself,lol, then some guy qqs about horde 24s but he is fine with 24 alliances (wanna get carried much lol), and to finish, other two dudes, previously 24s , who also dont like 24s.

Im mindblown

What's so hard to understand about this? Bg's are lopsided with more 24's on horde side is the simple point of this whole thread. So someone makes a 24 on alliance side to lessen this imbalance - to make things less unfair. Good for that person. If they simply wanted an easy win(because of low skills or low self-esteme or whatever their deal is) they could take the cowardly easy path of many p2p scrubs by making yet another 24 on horde side. But instead he chooses to take the hard route by making a 24 on alliance side and in the process even things out a little and make the bg's that much better for everyone due to his sacrifice. Pin a medal on him I say. 24 alliance are heros in my books, this coming from someone who has only ever played f2p.
People get mad when the bg's are unbalanced and then they chastise the few 24's that the alliance side *does* get. If anything should blow your mind it should be this.
 
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