is enhance viable at all?

[LennywBT]

It's ok, but ele is a lot better in pretty much every aspect. Enha has no burst, goes oom fast, has no thunderstorm, has weaker constant dps than ele, less armor, and it's also (half?) melee dps as opposed to ele which is ranged. Ele can definitely put out a lot more damage than 50k per game btw.

Yeah twtorm is a thing... but considering all thwt dmg pow said done in 2 sec... sorry but i can say enh>ele... 1þ stacked ele shield.... still does like 3oo dmg.. and ele bolt can NOT be castd while movin. Good thing el has is big heals. BUT im sill not sure....

 

[Mesikämmen]

Yeah twtorm is a thing... but considering all thwt dmg pow said done in 2 sec... sorry but i can say enh>ele... 1þ stacked ele shield.... still does like 3oo dmg.. and ele bolt can NOT be castd while movin. Good thing el has is big heals. BUT im sill not sure....

I thought this thread was about mop and not wod though? Idk my bad if it was bout wod

 

[LennywBT]

Wod i think . Np at all.

 

[Goesid]

I thought this thread was about mop and not wod though? Idk my bad if it was bout wod

Wod i think . Np at all.

Says nothing about WoD, it's about now.

 

[LennywBT]

Den my bad.

 

[Crayonla]

All this talk of enh, how is ret doing?

Enhancement Shaman and Retribution Paladin share a very close gameplay.

This is what I did with my Retribution Paladin lately.

http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f43/scoreboard-thread-v-2-a-46759/index66.html#post827342

 

[Manny]

Lol my bad I am so caught up in ptr testing that I don't think about live

If this is about Enhancement shaman mop I will still say that they perform nicely
If you can stay on a target and use your toolkit to the best of your power it's a fantastic spec

Like [MENTION=18826]Bop[/MENTION] said it scales very well with skill/ gear

I'm happy to say that if enh makes it to live how it is on ptr ( provided they fix the mana regen ) the we are going to be looking at a very promising xpac for us enhshams

 

[inoobupro]

I have a feeling some people are just trolling on purpose to get people like me all wired up over nothing and write paragraphs.

Everything a enhancement can do a ele can do better. You have no shield. No spellpower hammer to help you heal yourself. Your mana is garbage-you go OOM in 4 casts. And if you play your ''enhancement garbage'' without(notice without) eyepatch you have like what? Total of 200 armor?
If I cant get my point across maybe this fella can

Doesn't really work with 100 pet DPS+pushback, 300 Arcane Shot crits, 200 Serpent Sting crit ticks and 150 Auto Shot crits if my Elemental shamans (no looms yet) Surge heals for 1 Arcane Shot (~350, 700 crits), I can spam, but won't be able to do much damage so the fight will take forever.

It's absolutely obnoxious to face a 2k cyclopse without a brain.

And this is an older post...with like 40% battle fatigue instead of 60%

With 1700 life( BiS enhance+eyepatch) thats like a ambush/eviscerate ,or hunter dumping a full focus bar into you /doing the 250 crit autoshots. and you are dead. Thats the heals/survivability part

Now damage

Enhancement has basically no burst, and just a purge/windshear slave. Gl trying to get close to healers in the back getting kited by hunters.
And
You kind of need burst to succeed in any bracket in which heals can bring a person up to full in a single 1.5s cast.


And thats why weak DoT /slow damaging classes just dont succeed at lower level .


Here is the older thread I pulled up.
http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f43/enhancement-shaman-discussion-50628/ Xaosynch aka wilwacyo trolled ppl hard again

 

[Stamm]

I have more than 500screens and I never saw a F2P Elemental Shaman doing more than 50K. NEVER.

Hunter's dmg >> Elemental Shaman's dmg

and a throwback to cata to show peeps what enh has fallen from. I didn't even have looms back then and I was a much worse player than I am now, as you can see from my set up.

 

[Thakony]

playing since cata and still no goddamn keybinds... wow

 

[Crayonla]

and a throwback to cata to show peeps what enh has fallen from. I didn't even have looms back then and I was a much worse player than I am now, as you can see from my set up.

Never saw you in any BGs. You mastered all Shaman specs I can see.

If you can do more than 50K dmg and most of F2P Elemental Shamans can't, there are 3 things: 1- Most of all F2P Elemental Shamans suck badly, 2- You are an uber Elemental Shaman, 3- Combinaison of both.

playing since cata and still no goddamn keybinds... wow

I think this message was sent to me. It's not because you can't see any keybindings on my action bar that I don't have keybinding. "Kids"... those days.

 

[inoobupro]

Never saw you in any BGs. You mastered all Shaman specs I can see.

If you can do more than 50K dmg and most of F2P Elemental Shamans can't, there are 3 things: 1- Most of all F2P Elemental Shamans suck badly, 2- You are an uber Elemental Shaman, 3- Combinaison of both.




I think this message was sent to me. It's not because you can't see any keybindings on my action bar that I don't have keybinding. "Kids"... those days.

his post was not directed at you, but rather at the poster who was playing since cata and still not binding. I personallly dont care its f2p you dont need to bind, he was team MvP all 3 games . But you had to click too..at least the trinket, you have some sort of keybind for the totems though as far as I can tell, not sure though


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c1Id4-IIgs

so i watched whole 20 minutes of this ..20-24 ''pvp'' with the depressing music that fits the 20-24 bracket nicely


the keyturning 15 year olds, the you sat in a 6 second stun, not using astral shift/stoneform to prevent burst at all, the retarded eyepatch druid that is doing that jumping animation all while standing in 1 spot and outhealing all mage/warlock burst, the 4 alliance cyclops ,and the only time you clicked your trinket (at 18:37) to dispel a 2 sec remaining mage nova, but sat in a 6 second HoJ ( 3:45) , wasting all your CDs on 1500 hp ungeared 12 year old in whites (the only time astral shift was used). I kinda alt tabbed alot so i may have missed stuff


I dunno what to say haha

 

[inoobupro]

also why enh shaman not viable

at 2:26

730 jaja shield+another 764 shield and you died in 2 globals

jajadins outskilling the world

11112

 

[Crayonla]

his post was not directed at you, but rather at the poster who was playing since cata and still not binding. I personallly dont care its f2p you dont need to bind, he was team MvP all 3 games . But you had to click too..at least the trinket, you have some sort of keybind for the totems though as far as I can tell, not sure though


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c1Id4-IIgs

so i watched whole 20 minutes of this ..20-24 ''pvp'' with the depressing music that fits the 20-24 bracket nicely


the keyturning 15 year olds, the you sat in a 6 second stun, not using astral shift/stoneform to prevent burst at all, the retarded eyepatch druid that is doing that jumping animation all while standing in 1 spot and outhealing all mage/warlock burst, the 4 alliance cyclops ,and the only time you clicked your trinket (at 18:37) to dispel a 2 sec remaining mage nova, but sat in a 6 second HoJ ( 3:45) , wasting all your CDs on 1500 hp ungeared 12 year old in whites (the only time astral shift was used). I kinda alt tabbed alot so i may have missed stuff


I dunno what to say haha

I choosed to click on the trinket because, for the number of the time I use, it's worthless to keybind it. Also, before to use it, each time I ask myself the question "Do you really need to use it". Thinking about context and the result of using the trinket takes more time than clicking on the button.

At 18:36, I didn't think it was usefull to do it before I saw the HP of our FC going down. Let say I would gain 1sec to keybind it. I still think it doesn't worth it.

also why enh shaman not viable

at 2:26

730 jaja shield+another 764 shield and you died in 2 globals

jajadins outskilling the world

11112

At 2:36, I never let a friend behind. ETshaman (AKA Shamanpow) is a good Enhancement Shaman and like Chinese poeple say: 2sticks are stronger than one. We saw more of the half of the team coming at us. We knew we gonna to die. Like stated in Sun Tzu - Art of War, some units need to be sacrifice to let the others to survive. We didn't "plan" to 2men army the "whole" team, we plan to slow them down to let our FC and the rest of the team coming out from the Horde's base. Also, those units who started to engage fight against us wouldn't be able to mount for few seconds to cut the path of the FC, they were in combat mode. So, who are the idiots now?? The jaja-ladins and their pals.

 

[willix]

Never saw you in any BGs. You mastered all Shaman specs I can see.

If you can do more than 50K dmg and most of F2P Elemental Shamans can't, there are 3 things: 1- Most of all F2P Elemental Shamans suck badly, 2- You are an uber Elemental Shaman, 3- Combinaison of both.

I think this message was sent to me. It's not because you can't see any keybindings on my action bar that I don't have keybinding. "Kids"... those days.

What you should be taking away from those screen shots is this:

1. Ele shams do comparable damage to any hunter.

2. Enhancement shamans are weaker by far to most other melee.

3. Everything I've said thus far is true and correct.

At 2:36, I never let a friend behind. ETshaman (AKA Shamanpow) is a good Enhancement Shaman and like Chinese poeple say: 2sticks are stronger than one. We saw more of the half of the team coming at us. We knew we gonna to die. Like stated in Sun Tzu - Art of War, some units need to be sacrifice to let the others to survive. We didn't "plan" to 2men army the "whole" team, we plan to slow them down to let our FC and the rest of the team coming out from the Horde's base. Also, those units who started to engage fight against us wouldn't be able to mount for few seconds to cut the path of the FC, they were in combat mode. So, who are the idiots now?? The jaja-ladins and their pals.

The art of war doesn't apply to World of Warcraft. In WSG, when you die, you respawn. Therefore, dying has no real strategic value.

 

[weavingthevalues]

What you should be taking away from those screen shots is this:

1. Ele shams do comparable damage to any hunter.

2. Enhancement shamans are weaker by far to most other melee.

3. Everything I've said thus far is true and correct.



The art of war doesn't apply to World of Warcraft. In WSG, when you die, you respawn. Therefore, dying has no real strategic value.

spawn timers can buy you a lot of time

 

[Crayonla]

What you should be taking away from those screen shots is this:

1. Ele shams do comparable damage to any hunter.

2. Enhancement shamans are weaker by far to most other melee.

3. Everything I've said thus far is true and correct.



The art of war doesn't apply to World of Warcraft. In WSG, when you die, you respawn. Therefore, dying has no real strategic value.

Let say Elemental Shaman can do comparable damage to any hunter when they are played very good. Most of all cases, which it's not true.

Enhancement Shamans have more potentiel than to other melee, beside the Retribution Paladin. Both of them are hybrid class/spec and they have to play that way. The closest comparaison to the Enhancement Shaman, it's the Retribution Paladin and the Feral Druid with half of their gear with intellec/spellpower. You can't compare Enhancement Shaman with Rogues or Warriors, their mecanisms are different.

The Art of War apllies to WSG because it's about capture and control control points: it's all about war. Did you ever read The Art of War before making your statement??

 

[Zuro]

Id say enhance is viable. Aslong as u know what ur doing.

 

[Rollop]

PTR has been up for like 4 days, and it's been buggy as shit. BGs aren't even possible atm.

But keep them lies coming, twinkfood.

Uh, they sure are possible. Many of us have already posted multiple screenies of gear scaling and bg charts to give everyone else a good idea what WoD is going to look like. If you don't know what you're talking about it's better to keep your mouth shut.

I think remember who you are now. You're that retarded troll that was banned from TI multiple times during cata, aren't you? HA, that's great, look what the cat drug in guys.

 

[Rusks]

badz stop clicking its not vanilla