if only this were pre shattering.

[Healstrong]

doign some research i came across this quest. http://www.wowhead.com/quest=168/collecting-memories ZOMG that would've been so amazing to have them boots, and a seraph's strike on a 14 paladin. the quest rewards for this quest were changed upon it being removed. similar to what happened with bounty hunter's bracers

 

[Mrcer]

Bummer ):

 

[Missfrizzy]

Gear sucks now :/ I don't see why they had to remove that much content! At least make them attained differently so there's a huge variety.

 

[Dangerdoom]

yeah i rem the day after the change i saw someone wearing those tunneler's boots on a 19 pally.



somehow they had researched ahead on ptr and knew to get the item that was changing. but the guild that knew didn't share with everyone.

 

[Healstrong]

that sucks. i have the seraph's strike on a 19 warrior, aswell as a 14 paladin i had, which went to 19 after a week < poor decision making i know. would've been sexcreddible

 

[DeLindsay]

Gear sucks now :/ I don't see why they had to remove that much content! At least make them attained differently so there's a huge variety.

I swear the Blizz devs poop in the middle of the conference table, pick it up, throw it against the wall and wait to see what pretty pretty stains it leaves to get their next great idea for WoW. Unfortunately WoW is no longer the artistic license it once was, and we have to live with that fact. Blizz literally does 100% of anything for this game based on how many subs they think a change will net them, even if it makes the game worse. Blizz could easily fix the scaling issues with abilities and their effect in PvP and keep it separate from PvE, Trion Worlds figured it out on their very first MMO Rift, yet Blizz keeps saying it's impossible so they destroy PvE in an effort to balance PvP because that's what the subs want. Casual pvpers have ruined WoW plain and simple. Sorry for the rant, it just irritates me that $$$ via complaining subs has ruined what once was a great game, and Blizz keeps removing more and more of Vanilla content it's just sad.

 

[Bankbeauty]

Well, you can tell yourself that there's probably no level 14 twink with those items haha. As 14 twink weren't big back in The Shattering/pre-cata,

 

[Healstrong]

there was a guild in BC called Only Fourteen with a druid who had all of this sort of gear, including the gloves of fang, pious legwraps and all that. was great as he dominated the 10-14 skirmishes

 

[Bankbeauty]

there was a guild in BC called Only Fourteen with a druid who had all of this sort of gear, including the gloves of fang, pious legwraps and all that. was great as he dominated the 10-14 skirmishes

What I mean here, is that there's no active 14 with those.

 

[Tinkerton]

Well, you can tell yourself that there's probably no level 14 twink with those items haha. As 14 twink weren't big back in The Shattering/pre-cata,

One of the few regrets I have about my P2P toons is that I didn't level my Locked Gnome 13 (with Seraph) to 14 to get the DM legs (but she has the RFC gear - corpse hop grind, was pretty fun as a lvl 60 twink helped me & we got 'caught' by an 80 who frantically spammed Trade about our presence ^^ - and a Mallet of Zul in the bank).

 

[Twinkit]

What i don't understand is why? Why does Blizzard take out quests it deems unnecessary, with little or no notice, and then boost the stats of the reward items. It just makes twinks more frustrated because there is more gear we could have took the time to get to make or toons better, that is now unobtainable all the while making it less and less relavent to make new level twinks (cause the old ones could have been better). my2cents

 

[Tinkerton]

Of course it's just speculation, but I guess there are three possible answers:



1) they wanted a last 'hooray' , a farewell present if you want', and forgot that this might create issues in PvP (Shut up, PvP guy!);;

2) they are a bunch of dicks that were fully aware of the issues htis might create but they feed on the misery of their moneyslaves;

3) Cataclysm was a rush job, and some/many/take your pick of the pieces just didn't fall together.



Personally, I'm going with #3.



My reason for this is that there are signs of Cata being a rushjob release all over the place (zones like Alterac and Arathi Highlands, the female Worgen , Quests like the Perenlode Tiara that make little sense with the current zone levels, the Maraudon Dungeon Quests, the Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat & poles not being adapted to the new minimumlevel of the Fishing Dailies etc. but no doubt everybody has their personal 'favorites').



Also, I know from a fact that if you e.g. had the old gathering Quests from Steelgrip's ('Stocking up' that required you to get Bearhides, the Ammo quest that required you to loot the still-in game crate near the Wendigo den for those gunners early on the road to Kharanos - sorry I'm just terrible with names) in your log before the Shattering, you could collect and turn in those Quests post-Cata release. This would suggest that there is more 'buried' content they didn't fully remove for some reason - raising the question why it wasn't removed.



Last but not least, we had the weird phenomenon between the pre-Cata patch that introduced the accursed new Talent system & removal of skill ranks, and The Shattering of e.g Dungeon-related gear having radically different stats for that interval only, often with quite a load of Stam (e.g. the Belt and Robe of Arugal and the Feline Mantle, the Razorfen Kraul items and Quest reward Shield etc.) which made sense in conjunction with the increased damage output . Now I may have missed them giving the reason for this, but it somehow makes little sense to me they overhauled a whole cabungle of items just for a few weeks - to me it suggests that till very late in the Cata process they had no idea wether e.g. SFK would stay as a 18-22 Dungeon itemwise.



So it may very well be that originally the Quest would have gone over to post-Shattering Azeroth but it didn't make the final cut.

 

[Uglytwink]

i hate seeing lvl 10 rogues twinks whove been around since forever. Theyve got all the xroads gear and smegging Wingblade (drool), which is BiS next to SF for 19 twinks.. And then they get the new crit gear from swapping alli for boots.. Wish i would have known these items would leave in shattering earlier.. :s

 

[DeLindsay]

i hate seeing lvl 10 rogues twinks whove been around since forever. Theyve got all the xroads gear and smegging Wingblade (drool), which is BiS next to SF for 19 twinks.. And then they get the new crit gear from swapping alli for boots.. Wish i would have known these items would leave in shattering earlier.. :s

I'm one of those who has 10's from "almost" forever ago, however I quit WoW just before cata for almost exactly 1yr and even my fully GF'd 10's are missing some of the early cata (moved to higher level req in Shattering) what would be BiS gear, namely the RFC quest for chest, belt with +hit on several toons, gloves/pants that were slightly better than what I have (greens) etc. So even we get a little drooly over someone who has those items

 

[threesets]

same ^^ i got the old shit, but the newer barrens quest, miners fortune etc, and the rfc quest, i have not done