I want you guys to pick my next twink.

you get succy at 20, but no seduce....? what the **** does she do then, autoattack people? why would they even give warlocks succubus without seduce? it's the entire point of that demon. there's literally *zero* other reason to ever use succubus, ever, other than seduce, in pvp or pve.
 
Felguard gets Pursuit, which charges, but doesn't stun, but not Axe Toss, which stuns. No one is more sad about lock pets than me as I rolled Lock hoping to have seduce.
 
having succubus with no seduce and felguard with no stun is just plain stupid. not really sure why blizzard bothered "re-balancing" low levels if they weren't going to actually balance it. without any pet abilities warlocks at level 20 are no more than a sitting duck that can cast dots. pretty dumb.
 
C O T U S said:
having succubus with no seduce and felguard with no stun is just plain stupid. not really sure why blizzard bothered "re-balancing" low levels if they weren't going to actually balance it. without any pet abilities warlocks at level 20 are no more than a sitting duck that can cast dots. pretty dumb.
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Hunters. That is all. Blizz didn't balance low levels at all >.>
 
actually, if you pretend like hunters don't exist, the rest of the classes are balanced out pretty decently in this bracket. this warlock gimpage is a surprise to me. really don't know what they were thinking there.



it's also pretty mind-boggling that blizzard took the opportunity to re-design and re-balance the hunter class and instead used it to make them even more broken and game-ruining at low levels. seriously, from a business standpoint, it makes absolutely no sense to make one class godmode at low levels. new players will start playing, get absolutely annihilated by hunters, and be completely turned off from pvp. kind of an incredible gaffe on their part, especially when they put it all the "effort" to re-design the class to begin with.
 
C O T U S said:
actually, if you pretend like hunters don't exist, the rest of the classes are balanced out pretty decently in this bracket. this warlock gimpage is a surprise to me. really don't know what they were thinking there.



it's also pretty mind-boggling that blizzard took the opportunity to re-design and re-balance the hunter class and instead used it to make them even more broken and game-ruining at low levels. seriously, from a business standpoint, it makes absolutely no sense to make one class godmode at low levels. new players will start playing, get absolutely annihilated by hunters, and be completely turned off from pvp. kind of an incredible gaffe on their part, especially when they put it all the "effort" to re-design the class to begin with.
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Rogues one shot shit. If the guy isn't twinked he's dead. So yeah if you pretend Hunters, rogues, paladins etc the game is balanced well but warlocks are still stupidly gimped. I seriosuly think they could fix that if they gave up death coil at level 15 or something.
 
I have never seen an ambush over the 400s on a 20, I have had a heroic throw hit me for over 500, had my ferocious bite hit for over 800 and my frostbolts crit for over 400. I have also had bane of doom crit for close to 500, but their survivability blows.
 
Parfait said:
I have never seen an ambush over the 400s on a 20, I have had a heroic throw hit me for over 500, had my ferocious bite hit for over 800 and my frostbolts crit for over 400. I have also had bane of doom crit for close to 500, but their survivability blows.
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I'll try and screenshot it next time it happens to me =P. Anyway back on topic, It's between priest and warlock atm.
 
Parfait said:
I have never seen an ambush over the 400s on a 20, I have had a heroic throw hit me for over 500, had my ferocious bite hit for over 800 and my frostbolts crit for over 400. I have also had bane of doom crit for close to 500, but their survivability blows.
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I know mages are squishy but i have been ambush critted for well over 550-600 bringing me to less than 50% of my health in one shot
 
Can't Disc Priests handle Hunters 1v1?



Seems like a pretty strong reason to roll Priest right there, even if a lot of Hunters like to run around in groups...
 
MrZinty said:
Rogues one shot shit. If the guy isn't twinked he's dead. So yeah if you pretend Hunters, rogues, paladins etc the game is balanced well but warlocks are still stupidly gimped. I seriosuly think they could fix that if they gave up death coil at level 15 or something.
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don't look now, but *everybody* one shots "non-twinks" in this bracket. if you don't have any hp, you're just going to die.



rogues and paladins are just easymode, not overpowered. i regularly 1v3 melee classes on my mage, because there's absolutely nothing they can do about it at level 20. does that mean mages are overpowered? that being said, rogues indeed do a little too much damage, but since they're actually cc'able it's not as big of a problem.



things change a looooot if you eliminate hunters from the class balance picture and add healers. there are so few healers right now in 20 bgs that it has completely skewed everyone's perception of what is most effective at 20.
 
Anyway to bring this topic back on track I will be choosing the class (Priest or warlock) when I get home by counting up what people want so cast your last minute votes now 8)
 
Priest has won it by one vote, so I'll make a female troll priest twink - Name ChosenbyTI



To be honest I kinda want to make it shadow for lulz...
 
I have been wanting to make a priest in this bracket too. Just worried because i heard they have mana issues, is this true?
 
guys it costs like 60 silver to respec and it caps out at like 80. you can switch back and forth between specs as many times as you want. that's one of the reasons why this bracket owns.
 
C O T U S said:
guys it costs like 60 silver to respec and it caps out at like 80. you can switch back and forth between specs as many times as you want. that's one of the reasons why this bracket owns.
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Yeah but for some classes that's hard because it requires different gear. I'm not sure which stat I should be stacking. I'll just go with spell power to be safe but is crit stacking good as shadow =P?
 
doing anything but stacking hp as any class at 20 is just dumb and sub-optimal. you can get offensive sets for fun, but you're going to use them once, get insta'd by a hunter or rogue, then never use them again in pvp.
 
C O T U S said:
doing anything but stacking hp as any class at 20 is just dumb and sub-optimal. you can get offensive sets for fun, but you're going to use them once, get insta'd by a hunter or rogue, then never use them again in pvp.
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I've been stacking crit on my balance druid and it's great fun! I never use my HP set anymore...
 
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