How would you balance your class (be objective)
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notoriousthf
Born US, Raised Mexican
Startled said:
Well, you use the weapon and wait for proc, then switch to daggers, I guess.
respect730
Legend
Hunters,
keep: disengage, concussive shot
remove: arcane shot, wing clip
change: steady shot to a 1.25 sec cast.
OR
keep: disengage, wing clip
remove: arcane shot, concussive shot.
I know ppl are going to flame for removing arcane shot and wing clip. But I duel a certain 19 hunter exclusively, 100's of times, and this would be the greatest asset to evening the class in MY opinion.
Shaman,
receive: Healing Surge
change: Lava Lash 10 second cd > 6 second cd, Primal Strike 8 second cd > 6 second cd, double lightning shields damage.
Only 2 i can think about as of now, will update more later
keep: disengage, concussive shot
remove: arcane shot, wing clip
change: steady shot to a 1.25 sec cast.
OR
keep: disengage, wing clip
remove: arcane shot, concussive shot.
I know ppl are going to flame for removing arcane shot and wing clip. But I duel a certain 19 hunter exclusively, 100's of times, and this would be the greatest asset to evening the class in MY opinion.
Shaman,
receive: Healing Surge
change: Lava Lash 10 second cd > 6 second cd, Primal Strike 8 second cd > 6 second cd, double lightning shields damage.
Only 2 i can think about as of now, will update more later
Sargentfc
Legend
Hunters:
Survival: Explosive shot is beyond OP with the DoT effect. Without maxed out gear for 19 I'm critting (with the initial hit and the DoT) very damn close to 600 or better. At level 19 it shouldn't hit so hard.
Beast Mastery: They need a better buff then a 2 second stun. I mean they do get increased damage with pets but, honestly its not that MUCH of an increase. I'd like to see a new special pet ability added if you are BM spec something along the lines of maybe a DoT effect or a silence.
Marksmanship: Aimed shot full out SUCKS! Buff it or MM isn't worth playing.
Survival: Explosive shot is beyond OP with the DoT effect. Without maxed out gear for 19 I'm critting (with the initial hit and the DoT) very damn close to 600 or better. At level 19 it shouldn't hit so hard.
Beast Mastery: They need a better buff then a 2 second stun. I mean they do get increased damage with pets but, honestly its not that MUCH of an increase. I'd like to see a new special pet ability added if you are BM spec something along the lines of maybe a DoT effect or a silence.
Marksmanship: Aimed shot full out SUCKS! Buff it or MM isn't worth playing.
Best Rogue EU
Legend
give hunters mana
12 sec conc shot cd
fix marksman
give hawk eye (1point tier 1 surv +1yd ranged attack range)
disengage lvl 20
pet spells lvl 10 so you can use the new call 2nd pet shit
scatter 30+
pet hp 1k+, remove pet resistances
nerf racial resistances to 10% or give spell pen <20
hoj scales with lvl 3 sec at 10-19
10 sec cd exorcism
remove flash heal and fol
replace penance with something thats not like lava burst with a healing option
buff healing wave to 500 (increase mana cost?)
remove 30% dmg from shs and give 15% passive when you spec in ambush so its actually utility spell
thorns 1 min cd 10 sec duration off gcd lower mana cost
dispel at 10
buff sinister strike lol
remove keeshans bandana
and boa items
nerf starsurgg!!!!!1!!!!1
ban draenei cuz their face is ugly
remove horde paladins
undo bg merge
hamstring at 10
moonfire should tick every 3
make draenor pvp realm
roots 1.5 cast
nerf mana regen of everything
give hp regen from spirit
change mana regen back to 5sec rule or whatever it was out of combat regen is bullshit
ms at least 25%
garrote back
btw delete goblins and worgens
give unlucky fishing hat with 14 stamina (bought with 2k tastyfish)
^rng can s my d
give back boots
arcane barrage rofl
old arcane missiles back
cs scale with lvl 6 sec / 3 sec blanket at 19
make lifeblood heal
give motw and other buffs back and make them stack
all hunter dmg -50% nerf
make retribution available at lvl 20
no travel form when nature is locked out
did they remove ff? if not remove
bring back all grandfathered items
^not vanity items
buff engineering engineering #1
remove steady shot
nerf 40yd spells to 35 except hunters buff charge 30yd
nerf feral
buff warlocks because nobody plays them
all racial resistances should be removed and replaced with holy resistance for all races
^or do like that other thing i said i think it was better
nerf all 500+ burst dmg
and some other stuff i cant remember
wow this bracket is garbage
also make pet ress 10 sec for locks and give hunters mana and buff mana cost
12 sec conc shot cd
fix marksman
give hawk eye (1point tier 1 surv +1yd ranged attack range)
disengage lvl 20
pet spells lvl 10 so you can use the new call 2nd pet shit
scatter 30+
pet hp 1k+, remove pet resistances
nerf racial resistances to 10% or give spell pen <20
hoj scales with lvl 3 sec at 10-19
10 sec cd exorcism
remove flash heal and fol
replace penance with something thats not like lava burst with a healing option
buff healing wave to 500 (increase mana cost?)
remove 30% dmg from shs and give 15% passive when you spec in ambush so its actually utility spell
thorns 1 min cd 10 sec duration off gcd lower mana cost
dispel at 10
buff sinister strike lol
remove keeshans bandana
and boa items
nerf starsurgg!!!!!1!!!!1
ban draenei cuz their face is ugly
remove horde paladins
undo bg merge
hamstring at 10
moonfire should tick every 3
make draenor pvp realm
roots 1.5 cast
nerf mana regen of everything
give hp regen from spirit
change mana regen back to 5sec rule or whatever it was out of combat regen is bullshit
ms at least 25%
garrote back
btw delete goblins and worgens
give unlucky fishing hat with 14 stamina (bought with 2k tastyfish)
^rng can s my d
give back boots
arcane barrage rofl
old arcane missiles back
cs scale with lvl 6 sec / 3 sec blanket at 19
make lifeblood heal
give motw and other buffs back and make them stack
all hunter dmg -50% nerf
make retribution available at lvl 20
no travel form when nature is locked out
did they remove ff? if not remove
bring back all grandfathered items
^not vanity items
buff engineering engineering #1
remove steady shot
nerf 40yd spells to 35 except hunters buff charge 30yd
nerf feral
buff warlocks because nobody plays them
all racial resistances should be removed and replaced with holy resistance for all races
^or do like that other thing i said i think it was better
nerf all 500+ burst dmg
and some other stuff i cant remember
wow this bracket is garbage
also make pet ress 10 sec for locks and give hunters mana and buff mana cost
Skullfokker
Legend
Hunters:
Lower our damage a bit, we're kind of overpowered I'll admit.
Steady Shot should regain 15 Focus instead of 9 Focus, 9 is so random and not as useful as it should be, or keep 9 Focus and lower casting time. Either one is fine. Just as it is, it's not as viable an option as it should be. Rarely do you get enough time to stand still and use it.
Give us more survivability. We can't survive at all if the distance is closed. Disengage is really useful don't get me wrong, but it can only be used when you're not stunned, frozen, sapped, etc. I would just like one trap at lvl 19. It doesn't even need to be very powerful. Just something I can guard my back with against rogues.
Maybe one weaker instant cast shot that only costs 10-15 Focus. Just something to use as a last ditch effort when you're running low, or just to use while supporting so you can manage your focus better.
Lower our damage a bit, we're kind of overpowered I'll admit.
Steady Shot should regain 15 Focus instead of 9 Focus, 9 is so random and not as useful as it should be, or keep 9 Focus and lower casting time. Either one is fine. Just as it is, it's not as viable an option as it should be. Rarely do you get enough time to stand still and use it.
Give us more survivability. We can't survive at all if the distance is closed. Disengage is really useful don't get me wrong, but it can only be used when you're not stunned, frozen, sapped, etc. I would just like one trap at lvl 19. It doesn't even need to be very powerful. Just something I can guard my back with against rogues.
Maybe one weaker instant cast shot that only costs 10-15 Focus. Just something to use as a last ditch effort when you're running low, or just to use while supporting so you can manage your focus better.
Grabco
OG
Evade said:
He did preface his entire post by saying lower hunter damage so by saying that it is ok for him to ask for more utility, I guess it is a little laughable that he wants more survivability becasue I think hunters are actually quite good if they can kite like they are supposed to. I believe in pure DPS classes actually excelling at DPS, so in that respect mages need a buff in damage, there is only one spell that does anything good in pvp and that is arcane barrage. Another pure dps class are warlocks and they also need a buff to damage. Rogues are fine, other specs besides sub are a little weak at the moment but I imagine that combat rogues are great in pve now.
Skullfokker
Legend
Evade said:
I never said I couldn't survive a rogue. When did I say that? Learn comprehensive reading skills and stop putting words in my mouth.
All I said is I wish we had a trap at level 19 like before cataclysm. Just something to keep behind me so that I can unstealth the bastards before they assrape me, and it almost always happens during cooldowns.
I don't really care whether or not you agree with me, I'm just posting my opinion.
Best Rogue EU
Legend
Pandura said:
ur a troll
go to fuck off
MrZinty
Legend
Take away exorcism or nerf stun to 2 seconds max.
Reduce exorcism damage A LOT
Hamstring
Stances for warrior
Intercept
Nerf rogue damage a bit
take away disengage
Take away flash heal imo it does too much and paladins already have ridiculous base health
I hate to say this but: Nerf mages. Ah I shouldn't have said that but 500 crit instant with no problems whatsoever is a TAD ridiculous
Give moonfire a cooldown of 3 seconds
Make starsurge a 3 second cast
Buf healing in general for shamans
Make priest's penance heal only
Make priest shield absorb 100 less damage
Nerf fear (Priest)
Buff Fear (Warlocks) so that it takes a little more damage to break it.
Buff warlocks in general as they suck although they can top damage easily and spam dots they are still hard to beat a rogue on.
Give warlocks instant Howl Of Terror or death coil.
cba to put any more
Reduce exorcism damage A LOT
Hamstring
Stances for warrior
Intercept
Nerf rogue damage a bit
take away disengage
Take away flash heal imo it does too much and paladins already have ridiculous base health
I hate to say this but: Nerf mages. Ah I shouldn't have said that but 500 crit instant with no problems whatsoever is a TAD ridiculous
Give moonfire a cooldown of 3 seconds
Make starsurge a 3 second cast
Buf healing in general for shamans
Make priest's penance heal only
Make priest shield absorb 100 less damage
Nerf fear (Priest)
Buff Fear (Warlocks) so that it takes a little more damage to break it.
Buff warlocks in general as they suck although they can top damage easily and spam dots they are still hard to beat a rogue on.
Give warlocks instant Howl Of Terror or death coil.
cba to put any more